PC gamer Arrogance

[AlwaysHungry815]

By being here I hope this proves that I am indeed a pc gamer if it is not obvious, my confusion is why is the "pc master race" gamers so arrogant. I mean their not just rude to console gamers but to any other pc gamer that does not own a 3k computer that can stream everything in 4k 144 fps. If I am not mistaken less than 20 percent of homes in america even own a 4k TV, and 4k does not make the game play any better and to be all honest anything above 60 fps doesnt really make a significant difference. I own a high end PC and can run most games on ultra including witcher 3 and Fallout 4 (but thats an easy one). I just dont know why to put someone down. in any form asking for help theirs always that one pc master race dude thats like "I can play 20k 3000 fps get a new potato' or "console peasent scum" I dont get it why is that fun?.

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[Authentic Mikutard]

Publicado originalmente por JuicE●•·:

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Best steam emoticon I've seen yet xD.

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[Gallifrey - CSSC Gaming Founder]

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Publicado originalmente por Zero_Dawn:

Nicely put, but the pc fan base can be very arrogant, when i owned a console way back when I had a problem with a game went on a fourm, nothing but helpful suggestions every one was pretty polite. Go on steam as a pc gamer, and its pretty much toxic, no help if a game is broken

"its your fault, your rig sucks, you cant play batman arkham knight? it has nothing to do with devs the devs dont owe you anything the devs dont owe you a fixed game dont pre order your gaming on a potato, did i mention i play 4k, game works fine for me"

These people are what's known as "human beings".

They're an invasive species, who can be both manipulatve, deceitful and arrogant, while also kind, empathetic and generous. Some of them have all the sense of a houseplant, while others go about their daily lives with foresight and wisdom.

Help is offered to people here on Steam all the time. Literally every second some user is offering help, encouragement or advice to some other user. And at the very same time another user is spewing invective, spreading misinformation and just generally acting like an @#%hat.

Again, these are known as "human beings". They're no different here than anywhere else on the planet. No better, no worse. They just "are". Treat each one you meet as an individual, just like you, in their own right. Not as a "pc gamer", or as a "steam user", or any other member of Group X, Y or Z. They're people, that's all. The moment you've labelled them as members of a group you're already doing them a disservice, and yourself, in my opinion, because you're bringing to the table that is the conversation all the baggage you've packed that tells you what a member of Group X is, and what they probably think, and how they'll act etc etc.

Dump the baggage. It's mostly dead weight anyway.

The percentages of good versus evil aren't starkly one versus one. The percentage of posts that are helpful massively outnumber those that are abusive. Certain forums have a higher percentage of unhelpful posts than others - Team Fortress 2 seems to get more posters who are arrogant, contemptuous of others' views, and hostile to new players - but even then I'd suspect helpful responses outnumber hostile ones.

The community tends to be vehemently hostile to cheats and those bemoaning their bans rarely receive much, if any, sympathy.

More morally suspect there seems to be little sympathy for those that have been cheated in "obvious" frauds or those who have simply invested their money unwisely.

Also on those few areas of contention that aren't covered by Steam bans there can be strongly felt debate. Sometimes these deteriorate into abuse, sometimes they don't.

The anonymity of the internet and the limited social consequences for those whose Steam profiles give little clue as to their real world identities give users some degree of licence to behave as they will without thought of consequence. Not total licence - you can be banned from forums.

So here you see more people in their "true colours" without the full force of social pressure to shape them.

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[Dr. Octagon]

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[CDorman]

dont mind me, here for an achievement

[Nono5551212]

So what you are all trying to say is that console gaming is better and cooler.

[Authentic Mikutard]

There were times when I always said: "Really, the only pros of consoles are the confort of the couch and ease of use."

I only added "and now maybe price if you don't mind that guy that knows a guy putting a chip in it so you can get cheaper games." a few years later as a situational pro.

Even that has been blown out of the water (hello steam link). Last time I saw my nephew it befundled me how much consoles are being made to be like pcs. What's coming next, pick your own console parts? xD

Actually, now that I think of it, the games WERE better in consoles during 16 bit era and before and it wasn't just from exclusivity. Any adaptation to console from a popular title, let's say, prince of persia for example, was actually alot better on console. But alas, that was a golden age for consoles.

[Dakota]

Publicado originalmente por Authentic Mikutard:

There were times when I always said: "Really, the only pros of consoles are the confort of the couch and ease of use."

I only added "and now maybe price if you don't mind that guy that knows a guy putting a chip in it so you can get cheaper games." a few years later as a situational pro.

Even that has been blown out of the water (hello steam link). Last time I saw my nephew it befundled me how much consoles are being made to be like pcs. What's coming next, pick your own console parts? xD

Actually, now that I think of it, the games WERE better in consoles during 16 bit era and before and it wasn't just from exclusivity. Any adaptation to console from a popular title, let's say, prince of persia for example, was actually alot better on console. But alas, that was a golden age for consoles.

I believe it was Phil Spencer that talked about in the next generation making a modular Xbox system, one that could have modules swapped out (like razors old project Christine) allowing it to compete* with PCs and also stay fairly up to date hardware wise.

[Pervenche]

The people you are describing are nothing more than elitists. They are prevalant in just about any community and always stand to give it a bad name.

[Nono5551212]

I have a feeling that this might be the last Xbox we see... Maybe an updated Xbox one but after that who knows...

[ShadowAngel]

That's just how humans are. Do you guys who wonder about this live in some nuclear bunker?
"My (insert whatever) is better than yours/My (insert whatever) is the best" is a common thing.
You have that with gamers since the dawn of gaming. Be it Atari 2600 vs. Intellivision vs. Colecovision or the classic Sega vs. Nintendo of the late 80's and 90's. You have the same with music (a classic example is the old Metallica vs. Megadeth war that goes on for over 3 decades) and of course to sports where fans say their club/team is the best of all time and others suck.

Altough with the PC vs. Console debate at least it's pretty obvious to everybody that the PC is superior in basically every way imaginable and console have no reason to exist anymore. Consoles were awesome in the 80's and 90's and until the PS2 Era but honestly everything since then is just wanna-be PC's with underpowered Hardware, extra fee for online gaming, games cost more and being limited to be able to use a gamepad. The only console since than that had a reason to exist was the Wii because it cathered to a different crowd of gamers and was extremely different to anything else on the market. But the Xbox and Playstations of the past 2 generations? What reason to exist have they actually? I own a Xbox 360 and it was basically only bought because of Red Dead Redemption and NHL. Without consoles i could have gotten the games on PC. Imagine RDR on PC, it's an awesome game in it's own right but with the modding scene the PC has? The game would've been even more incredible.

[AlwaysHungry815]

Publicado originalmente por ShadowAngel:

That's just how humans are. Do you guys who wonder about this live in some nuclear bunker?
"My (insert whatever) is better than yours/My (insert whatever) is the best" is a common thing.
You have that with gamers since the dawn of gaming. Be it Atari 2600 vs. Intellivision vs. Colecovision or the classic Sega vs. Nintendo of the late 80's and 90's. You have the same with music (a classic example is the old Metallica vs. Megadeth war that goes on for over 3 decades) and of course to sports where fans say their club/team is the best of all time and others suck.

Heres the thing those debates are aginst other consoles, the pc fan base is the only one i know that attacks members of their own damn team. Thats something you wont see in other consoles. I never seen a fourm about oh you dont have two ps4 controllers what a casul. yes while PCs do vary the only main difference between the different PCs is the graphics in which they can play games, and graphics is the one things most hardore gamers agree dont matter as much as gameplay. Or else half-life games, would be the most crappy pc game ever and The Order is a god of the pc genra.

[Aahzmandias]

A hardcore gamer, is a gamer who plays video games on all possible hardware. A hardcore game has favorite games, but no favorite system.

All other hardware "bound" gamers are whiny little fanboys, not understanding, that exclusive games on any hardware is bad for gaming in general.

[AlwaysHungry815]

Publicado originalmente por mkess:

A hardcore gamer, is a gamer who plays video games on all possible hardware. A hardcore game has favorite games, but no favorite system.

All other hardware "bound" gamers are whiny little fanboys, not understanding, that exclusive games on any hardware is bad for gaming in general.

Amen I ship that