Why people hate Valve so much?

[T.]

Everyone has their own reason. I have mine: I hate GabeN for being liar. Can you name your reasons why this company sucks?

[Chompman]

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I don't hate steam, but I didn't care for being forced to use it because game developers chose to use their Anti cheat software. Hence both games have been uninstalled, as well as all traces of the steam software.

So you want to cheat but don't want to get vac banned because those games use it?

Sounds to me like this is a good thing for the community.

[MancSoulja]

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Początkowo opublikowane przez {MaDef224}:

I don't hate steam, but I didn't care for being forced to use it because game developers chose to use their Anti cheat software. Hence both games have been uninstalled, as well as all traces of the steam software.

So you want to cheat but don't want to get vac banned because those games use it?

Sounds to me like this is a good thing for the community.

VAC is a SteamWorks thing, in-order to use VAC in your game, it's needs to be a SteamWorks title.

[[{MaDef224}]]

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Początkowo opublikowane przez {MaDef224}:

I don't hate steam, but I didn't care for being forced to use it because game developers chose to use their Anti cheat software. Hence both games have been uninstalled, as well as all traces of the steam software.

So you want to cheat but don't want to get vac banned because those games use it?

Sounds to me like this is a good thing for the community.

No, you misunderstand, I'm not really into playing online, I prefer to play the singleplayer portions of the games I buy. So having to run steam to play games {even in offline mode) was irritating to say the least.

[username12121]

I do my fair share of complaining about things on Steam, but let's reserve the word hate for things that deserve it. Hate is a very extreme and way overused word, and Valve, to be honest, don't come near deserving that. In fact, they've provided me with many hours of gaming enjoyment which I otherwise would not have found. OK, they may have some faults as a corporation, but perspective is important. As people I suspect they're probably quite nice.

[FletchWazzle]

I was trying to think if I could even come up with something negative to say about Valve. Here's what I came up with.

I dislike that on Steam, free to play games that I play when I have to delete them for storage management issues, are gone from my library & I have to go hunt them down again. Even if I have invested money in the title.

I was going to number them, but that was all that I could come up with, big fan.

[IEatGlue]

Retarded security, as for fund verification.

[76561198001062896]

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Retarded security, as for fund verification.

Yeah, its easy to bash the system when its not about your business potentially losing money due to fraudulent CC cards and so on

[$hakal]

People are mostly blaming steam for their own faults. Or for some developer's faults.
Personally, I love steam, I prefer buying games on steam over DRM-free versions

[Gallifrey - CSSC Gaming Founder]

And overall here fan boys far outnumber haters and whilst people get frustrated about some things Steam does and complain generally when Steam is unjustly attacked people will stick up for it - and not just mods and pro posters either. Steam shouldn't treat the odd rogue hate post as being representative of the community as a whole.

S.x.

[Poobah Gorg]

How to avoid the seven-day cooldown for canceling a trade or sale with the mobile authenticator:
1) Be a bit more careful with what you say yes to before it even hits your phone. 2) Approve everything with your phone. Then go back to your PC and remove the sale listing or cancel the trade from your regular desktop Steam client. There won't be any seven-day cooldown.

[shellgames]

Every community has it's critics, no matter where you go, especially media based content where the fans are so passionate.
With that being said, the gaming community can be by far the most critical, and for good reason.
You pay $60.00 for a new release, and sometimes you're disappointed, or you invest a bunch of time into something like steam, and you're sometimes disappointed.
The thing is, with everything that possibly exists there will always be pro's and con's.
Celebrate the good things, criticize the bad just don't be toxic about it.

[Ishraqiyun]

I don't hate them, but I can't say I understand them very well.

[Washell]

For the past 5+ years, Valve has been trying to turn Steam into something that would run and police itself. The decisions and motives to pursue this seem more based in keeping control, preserving the company culture and structure and a (so far misguided) belief that they could solve the hurdles along the way. Instead, it seems that the hurdles make people move their desks somewhere else leaving half assed systems behind while they start working on the next new shiny.

Had they spun Steam off into a separate company with a traditional structure, perhaps even sell part ownership to other (major) publishers to take the sting of the competition out of it, we might now have had a better service all around, with no origin, uplay or social club trying to compete, because they're part owner of Steam.

In fairness, they're supposedly working on a major overhaul of the service. In hindsight, leaving the existing crap limp along with competition cropping up while working on that may be praised as a bold move.

We'll see. But right now I see a missed opportunity to build something the entire industry could get behind willingly.

[Cucciolo Cantalupi]

Member since January 2016.
I won't say hate, i will tell you what i don't like about Steam and Valve. First i must warn you that my language skills in English are not that good. Also i don't want to argue or discuss my opinion at the moment, so i will just post my dislike-list.

1.Microtransactions. No problem if game is free, but in games you bought for money - It's not fine. Valve has it in CS:GO, so we can't blame other developers for it. If head is rotten, body will rot too.
2.Few to no rules. Anyone can say ♥♥♥♥ about you and he won't be punished. I do like sense of freedom, but there should be limit. Without rules - there is no order. I can block anyone, but block is not a good punishment. One will die - another will take his place.
3.Private profiles. What for? To talk about game that you don't own? To hide time that you spent with game from fools that judge people by hourse spent in-game? It is fine if you are star, but for a peasant - No.
4.Review system. What for? You can like/dislike anything for no reason. Developer will pay for that with mixed and lower game rating. Many people will think a lot before buying game that is mixed or worse. I've seen games with most negative reviews related to people hands growing from ass. They don't know how to use PC, don't read system requirments and complain about that in reviews. Also let's not forget bought reviews and free copies.
5. No description for VAC bans.
6. Too small non-English forums, without suggestions, mobile and other threads.

[Yuuta]

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Private profiles. What for?

Ever heard about privacy?
Also, "You don't live in a glass house? You might be hiding something really dirty."

Początkowo opublikowane przez Mr_AT:

Microtransactions. No problem if game is free, but in games you bought for money - It's not fine. Valve has it in CS:GO, so we can't blame other developers for it.

Microtransanctions were there long before Valve implemented it on Steam. And let's be honest here, Valve's games have the most fair microtransactions, as they don't give you any advantages in the game.

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No description for VAC bans.

There are few articles from Valve with the description of the VAC bans.