Will Legend of Dragoon ever come to steam?

[Rayne]

The question is in the title mostly. But I am fairly dissapointed this old classic never got ported. I have no console capable of playing it, or any functioning consoles at all really. But it is on things like playstation and whatnot. Why isn't it here on steam. I know its an oldie, 20ish years old, maybe 21 depending on the date. But it is one of... my top 5 games. Its sad there are no PC ports.

[Cathulhu]

Considering it was only released on Playstation and is owned by Sony should answer the question.

Ask Sony to bring it to Steam.

[Brian9824]

Originally posted by rayneg357:

The question is in the title mostly. But I am fairly dissapointed this old classic never got ported. I have no console capable of playing it, or any functioning consoles at all really. But it is on things like playstation and whatnot. Why isn't it here on steam. I know its an oldie, 20ish years old, maybe 21 depending on the date. But it is one of... my top 5 games. Its sad there are no PC ports.

You can emulate it on Retroarch, its available now, just sign up for their early preview - https://store.steampowered.com/app/1118310/RetroArch/

[Kargor]

Nobody ports a game from 1999.

[Start_Running]

Originally posted by Kargor:

Nobody ports a game from 1999.

CHrono Trigger.

[Brian9824]

Originally posted by Kargor:

Nobody ports a game from 1999.

Final Fantasy's and
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1295270/SaGa_Frontier_Remastered/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/637670/Secret_of_Mana/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1175830/Legend_of_Mana/

Lots of others

[Start_Running]

Me thinks the biggest problem was the game just didn't sell very well..
Mind you I played it and loved the hella outta it and I would love if it got ported
It's right up there with the Breath of FIre Series for me.

[Brian9824]

Originally posted by Start_Running:

Me thinks the biggest problem was the game just didn't sell very well..
Mind you I played it and loved the hella outta it and I would love if it got ported
It's right up there with the Breath of FIre Series for me.

Easy enough to emulate it and pop in the discs though

[Rayne]

I downloaded retroarch like someone above suggested, but it doesn't seem to do much. There is a menu and all that. But I have no clue how to use it or what it does.

[Brian9824]

Originally posted by rayneg357:

I downloaded retroarch like someone above suggested, but it doesn't seem to do much. There is a menu and all that. But I have no clue how to use it or what it does.

Have to d/l the core, think there are Faqs on the message board. Its just an emulator so you can play your copy on PC. So you have to actually own it yourself

[The Captain :3]

Originally posted by rayneg357:

The question is in the title mostly. But I am fairly dissapointed this old classic never got ported. I have no console capable of playing it, or any functioning consoles at all really. But it is on things like playstation and whatnot. Why isn't it here on steam. I know its an oldie, 20ish years old, maybe 21 depending on the date. But it is one of... my top 5 games. Its sad there are no PC ports.

[MagicMight]

Originally posted by rayneg357:

I downloaded retroarch like someone above suggested, but it doesn't seem to do much. There is a menu and all that. But I have no clue how to use it or what it does.

You have to understand something that you might have already been wondering yourself.

Why is Retroarch legal? It is emulating consoles. Is there not some kind of intellectual property that would get the developers sued over?

The answer is somewhat simple: they are skirting the lines of the law by actually emulating how a console works but not including the image of the BIOS of said console. It is advertised as a way for someone to play their games on PC as long as they already own the console and the game.

So in order to make this work - legally - you are required to own the console yourself, extract the BIOS from it, and then load it up to the appropriate path of the emulator's installation. Then, in order to play a game you must have a legal copy of the game and either load it up to your cd tray or rip the the cd in iso format and then load it up to your PC.

So this gets them legally covered (and apparently they can publish on steam) with no issue.

Of course many people using emulators (see: almost everyone) do it "the other way". Of course discussing "the other way" is against the rules here.

Bottom point is that if you want to abide by the law 100% you are required to own the console you want to emulate. Otherwise, well, google is your friend (I have said too much already!!!).

[Start_Running]

Originally posted by MagicMight:

Originally posted by rayneg357:

I downloaded retroarch like someone above suggested, but it doesn't seem to do much. There is a menu and all that. But I have no clue how to use it or what it does.

You have to understand something that you might have already been wondering yourself.

Why is Retroarch legal? It is emulating consoles. Is there not some kind of intellectual property that would get the developers sued over?

The answer is somewhat simple: they are skirting the lines of the law by actually emulating how a console works but not including the image of the BIOS of said console. It is advertised as a way for someone to play their games on PC as long as they already own the console and the game.

So in order to make this work - legally - you are required to own the console yourself, extract the BIOS from it, and then load it up to the appropriate path of the emulator's installation. Then, in order to play a game you must have a legal copy of the game and either load it up to your cd tray or rip the the cd in iso format and then load it up to your PC.

So this gets them legally covered (and apparently they can publish on steam) with no issue.

Of course many people using emulators (see: almost everyone) do it "the other way". Of course discussing "the other way" is against the rules here.

Bottom point is that if you want to abide by the law 100% you are required to own the console you want to emulate. Otherwise, well, google is your friend (I have said too much already!!!).

Yup. They can also skirt the legal issues by creating their own proprietary bios by reverse engineering the functions of the original bios. And its been legal since.. well since the PS1 was a current Gen Console.

Do you remember "Bleem!"?

[MagicMight]

Originally posted by Start_Running:

Yup. They can also skirt the legal issues by creating their own proprietary bios by reverse engineering the functions of the original bios. And its been legal since.. well since the PS1 was a current Gen Console.

Do you remember "Bleem!"?

Unfortunately I do not remember Bleem as I was a wee little tyke when it came out. My first foray in emulation was with the well-known epsxe and pcsx2. Of course, I also own both corresponding consoles.

And if what you are saying about creating their own bios -and distributing it - still being on the correct side of the law is true, I'll just say.. holy damn.

[Rayne]

I do my best to be a law abiding citizen, so long as I find not forced agianst it for justifiable moral reasons. And besides, my physical copy of the game is damaged anyway. One disk is cracked, so it usually does not work, although sometimes it does.

Regardless, I am still dissapointed no one is remaking the game. I know it didn't earn a lot of money quickly, but its a cult classic now, and for the last decade. It could absolutely make money now. Especially if they did a remaster and updated the graphics and such.

[Start_Running]

Originally posted by MagicMight:

Originally posted by Start_Running:

Yup. They can also skirt the legal issues by creating their own proprietary bios by reverse engineering the functions of the original bios. And its been legal since.. well since the PS1 was a current Gen Console.

Do you remember "Bleem!"?

Unfortunately I do not remember Bleem as I was a wee little tyke when it came out. My first foray in emulation was with the well-known epsxe and pcsx2. Of course, I also own both corresponding consoles.

And if what you are saying about creating their own bios -and distributing it - still being on the correct side of the law is true, I'll just say.. holy damn.

Yup. Bios is software. And its not illegal for two pieces of software to do the same thing.
It's a matter of *how* the software does it.

Now if you know the output you need and the input that it takes, you can create a method of generating that output from the input without exactly copying the original.

Sadly Bleem was kinda ♥♥♥♥♥. epsxe is much better. THough i think it was because the company behind Bleem kinda folded shortly after the legal battle and Bleem had its own problems.

Originally posted by rayneg357:

Regardless, I am still dissapointed no one is remaking the game. I know it didn't earn a lot of money quickly, but its a cult classic now, and for the last decade.

Even if it did it would liklely be exclusive to the Sony Console.
So No Steam version.

Sad. So Sad.

There may It could absolutely make money now. Especially if they did a remaster and updated the graphics and such.

Now see, you're now adding costs to the whole thing.
Honestly I wonder if SOny even remembers the game themselves.