WİNDOWS XP

[Deniz.]

WHY WİNDOWS XP DELETED AT STEAM :(

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

引用自 Heeby-Jeeby：

I will add Valve dropping support for Windows XP to my list of reasons I boycott Steam between sales. If Valve thinks they will get another penny from me before their next sale, they are sorely mistaken.

Some 300 IQ alright...

FYI you're going to be very limited where to buy games digitally, just giving you heads up incase you're not aware somehow, where most store fronts clients do not support XP.

Wonder what happen to the people that demanded Windows 98, ME, and 2000 support go? Right... Yea they kind of fade out same that happening to XP isn't that just awkward for you. Welp enjoy your XP.

[Heeby-Jeeby]

Okay, how about if I go on a hunger strike between meals in protest instead?

Striking today is especially difficult. I had a very early breakfast and missed lunch. On top of that I will not be able to eat dinner for another couple of hours. I haven’t eaten in twelve hours. My plan is I will have dinner and then go back on my hunger strike until breakfast. I might be skipping lunch tomorrow but I will persevere! Gotta stick to my principals.

[RedLightning]

引用自 cinedine：

引用自 RedLightning：

Who said it was ..

you.

But if your asking .. its a conspiracy of power and control.

No reason they could not have been just allowed to use the games they purchased.. no.. Valve in their great power .. can just SHUT IT OFF.

;DRM: total control . no Conspiracy ..

Wait till this hits windows 7 and even older versions of 10.

The more they get away with .. the more they are going to do . .

Not that it matters to you.

Yes, no longer supporting old and insecure APIs, protocols and third party libraries is a power move.

Without Steam .. the people with XP machines would STILL be able to use their software..

Steam says NO.. yes .. power.. and lots of it.

[nullable]

引用自 RedLightning：

引用自 cinedine：

Yes, no longer supporting old and insecure APIs, protocols and third party libraries is a power move.

Without Steam .. the people with XP machines would STILL be able to use their software..

Steam says NO.. yes .. power.. and lots of it.

Without Steam a lot of those people wouldn't have bought a lot of that software to begin with. You can't just arbitrarily cross Steam out of narrative methinks.

And Valve axed Win9x support in 2007 and anyone thought that was the last time Valve would sunset support for an OS. Naive...

[RedLightning]

引用自 Brockenstein：

引用自 RedLightning：

Without Steam .. the people with XP machines would STILL be able to use their software..

Steam says NO.. yes .. power.. and lots of it.

Without Steam a lot of those people wouldn't have bought a lot of that software to begin with. You can't just arbitrarily cross Steam out of narrative methinks.

And Valve axed Win9x support in 2007 and anyone thought that was the last time Valve would sunset support for an OS. Naive...

lol.. don't worry .. Valve is your friend..

Not mine.

The amount of support for Valves crap fest of a control mechanism is appauling.

Valve dont give a crap.. and it really is starting to show.

Again.. I can just imagine when they hit 7 and 8 and early versions of 10 with the same shiz.

Whats next.. whoodoo..

[Tito Shivan]

引用自 RedLightning：

Again.. I can just imagine when they hit 7 and 8 and early versions of 10 with the same shiz.

We'll just dance this very same dance again with the minimum onset of people whom still don't move forward and keep using an outdated and no longer maintained OS bringing the same arguments again.

Like when Steam discontinued W2000 before discontinuing XP.
Nothing new under the sun.

引用自 RedLightning：

Valve dont give a crap.. and it really is starting to show.

They're a business, not your buddy.

[RedLightning]

引用自 Tito Shivan：

引用自 RedLightning：

Again.. I can just imagine when they hit 7 and 8 and early versions of 10 with the same shiz.

We'll just dance this very same dance again with the minimum onset of people whom still don't move forward and keep using an outdated and no longer maintained OS bringing the same arguments again.

Like when Steam discontinued W2000 before discontinuing XP.
Nothing new under the sun.

引用自 RedLightning：

Valve dont give a crap.. and it really is starting to show.

They're a business, not your buddy.

exactly they are not our buddy..

but you have certain ties to em..

So no matter what they do you sure are not going to get on their bad side about it.. now are you.

Again.. discs .. without steam would still work.. Yet valve still calls the shots on that one.

Whatever.. no matter what I say . .you guys all jump on it anyways..

Pathetic..

and always will be.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Short answer, if you don't want to face the music of how things goes overtime, then the only answer you have is you better start getting used to buying old games on discs that doesn't rely on connection to a service DRM, or tied to a game client DRM, or buy DRM free games, and pray Devs/pubs don't update their games that break on XP, or GoG change their installer that not compatible with XP.

[RedLightning]

引用自 Kusa：

引用自 RedLightning：

exactly they are not our buddy..

Again.. discs .. without steam would still work.. Yet valve still calls the shots on that one.

Whatever.. no matter what I say . .you guys all jump on it anyways..

Pathetic..

and always will be.

For someone with 1002 games on the Steam platform your arguments hardly hold water.

What the hell does my games on my account have any bearing on what I say.. ?

really .

[Crazy Tiger]

引用自 RedLightning：

引用自 Tito Shivan：

We'll just dance this very same dance again with the minimum onset of people whom still don't move forward and keep using an outdated and no longer maintained OS bringing the same arguments again.

Like when Steam discontinued W2000 before discontinuing XP.
Nothing new under the sun.


They're a business, not your buddy.

exactly they are not our buddy..

but you have certain ties to em..

So no matter what they do you sure are not going to get on their bad side about it.. now are you.

Again.. discs .. without steam would still work.. Yet valve still calls the shots on that one.

Whatever.. no matter what I say . .you guys all jump on it anyways..

Pathetic..

and always will be.

Except that it's the game developers and publishers who decided to start using Steam.

Game developers and publishers make choices, but in your vendetta against Steam you run completely past that.

Valve is not the bane of the industry. They merely run a storefront. It's the game devs and mostly the publishers who make the decisions. Keep in mind that they can easily choose to not use Steam and release games DRM free on GoG for example. Yet most don't. That's not Valves fault.

引用自 RedLightning：

引用自 Kusa：

For someone with 1002 games on the Steam platform your arguments hardly hold water.

What the hell does my games on my account have any bearing on what I say.. ?

really .

That I agree on.

[RedLightning]

引用自 Crazy Tiger：

引用自 RedLightning：

exactly they are not our buddy..

but you have certain ties to em..

So no matter what they do you sure are not going to get on their bad side about it.. now are you.

Again.. discs .. without steam would still work.. Yet valve still calls the shots on that one.

Whatever.. no matter what I say . .you guys all jump on it anyways..

Pathetic..

and always will be.

Except that it's the game developers and publishers who decided to start using Steam.

Game developers and publishers make choices, but in your vendetta against Steam you run completely past that.

Valve is not the bane of the industry. They merely run a storefront. It's the game devs and mostly the publishers who make the decisions. Keep in mind that they can easily choose to not use Steam and release games DRM free on GoG for example. Yet most don't. That's not Valves fault.

引用自 RedLightning：

What the hell does my games on my account have any bearing on what I say.. ?

really .

That I agree on.

So now its the devs fault.. riiiiggghhhtt...

I'm out.

[Nx Machina]

引用自 RedLightning：

What the hell does my games on my account have any bearing on what I say.. ?

really .

Hypocrisy. You use a platform yet complain of control. Like buying jars of peanut butter whilst having a peanut allergy.

Steam does not need to support XP nor any obsolete operating systems.

Developers are not required to make games backwards compatible nor to ensure software written for a specific operating system needs to function on Windows above that original version.

I want is not an option and player entitlement is a fantasy.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

引用自 Heeby-Jeeby：

I will add Valve dropping support for Windows XP to my list of reasons I boycott Steam between sales. If Valve thinks they will get another penny from me before their next sale, they are sorely mistaken.

FYI if you want to do a proper boycott, don't buy during the sales either.

I mean, that's what I'm doing. :)

引用自 Dr.Shadowds 🐉：

Short answer, if you don't want to face the music of how things goes overtime, then the only answer you have is you better start getting used to buying old games on discs that doesn't rely on connection to a service DRM, or tied to a game client DRM, or buy DRM free games, and pray Devs/pubs don't update their games that break on XP, or GoG change their installer that not compatible with XP.

More accurately: buy games DRM-free, then keep archival copies of the installers.

FYI GOG does support providing older versions of games that they already have on file, so they're more likely to be compatible with older hardware/OSes -- compared to Steam which just updates you to the newest version of the game. (Assuming Steam runs at all on the system in question.)

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

引用自 Quint the Alligator Snapper：

引用自 Heeby-Jeeby：

I will add Valve dropping support for Windows XP to my list of reasons I boycott Steam between sales. If Valve thinks they will get another penny from me before their next sale, they are sorely mistaken.

FYI if you want to do a proper boycott, don't buy during the sales either.

I mean, that's what I'm doing. :)

引用自 Dr.Shadowds 🐉：

Short answer, if you don't want to face the music of how things goes overtime, then the only answer you have is you better start getting used to buying old games on discs that doesn't rely on connection to a service DRM, or tied to a game client DRM, or buy DRM free games, and pray Devs/pubs don't update their games that break on XP, or GoG change their installer that not compatible with XP.

More accurately: buy games DRM-free, then keep archival copies of the installers.

FYI GOG does support providing older versions of games that they already have on file, so they're more likely to be compatible with older hardware/OSes -- compared to Steam which just updates you to the newest version of the game. (Assuming Steam runs at all on the system in question.)

It's optional, GoG doesn't keep the older version of the game if the Dev remove it which you need to download and archive it. You only get whatever the Dev choose to place on the site, once it's removed you're SOoL basically, but there is the rollback which is on the Galaxy, but that also has limit how far back you're allow by the dev as well, which again SOoL for XP users as Galaxy does not support it ever.

Also just to put it out there, yes you can download older version of the game for Steam, may even get the very 1st version of the game that was uploaded to Steam, as Steam keeps almost everything it seems, which is a plus.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

引用自 Dr.Shadowds 🐉：

Also just to put it out there, yes you can download older version of the game for Steam, may even get the very 1st version of the game that was uploaded to Steam, as Steam keeps almost everything it seems, which is a plus.

How can this be done? I've heard one method was recently removed.

Though this still wouldn't help if someone couldn't run Steam itself on their computer. Archiving all the things is still the best solution.