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Not 40 years. Totally different scenario anyways. Video games back then were no where near as prevelant as they are today.
sorry.... game buying addiction.... and using idlemaster or something...
true, I agree somewhat but again, we aren't talking about games like harry potter, or goat simulator, we are mainly talking about games that are so bad, that it looks like it was made in game maker from 2007, games like fidget spinners gifs or tetris with nuditiy, games that are not creative at all, that don't even remotely look fun but are still on the steam store anyway because the devs had money
again games like DH who are so bad, it shouldn't exist
I love games like surgeon sim and goat sim, it at least had some work done, but other games that look like someone toke tetris and put gifs on it are very terrible
I admit maybe I shouldn't of said that but you make a good point, again I say walmart would not sell a broken toy or ps4, the issue to me lies with the fact we don't put video games in the same standard as a toy or tv, if your not happy with the product, you return it, but with video games if you play more then 2 or 4 hrs, and are still unhappy, its your problem
but again your still right, I was wrong about it, and might of said it as a bad example
at the very least steam needs to take a bigger look at their games, games that were made with only gifs and lets say snake have no bussiness being on steam unless there is real effort put into it
How did you hear of these games. How does one come across such games. Ask yourself that.
That's your opinion. Others see it differently. This is wht I mean about different tastes. For some people those games provide just enough entertainment value to be worth their price.
Walmart sold a lot of unsafe toys that required recalls though. Here's a few recently recalled products:
Black & Decker Recalls Hammer Drills Due to Injury Hazard
Sold at: Walmart stores and Walmart.com
Yvolve Sports Recalls Electric Skateboards Due to to Fall Hazard
Sold at: Walmart stores
Pacific Cycle Recalls Adult Men’s Mountain Bicycles Due to Fall Hazard
Sold at: Walmart stores and Walmart.com
Briggs & Stratton Recalls Portable Generator Fuel Tank Replacement Caps, Due to Fire Hazard
Sold at: Walmart.com
Walmart Recalls Camp Axes Due to Injury Hazard
Sold at: Walmart stores and Walmart.com
Rust-Oleum Recalls Countertop Coating Due to Violation of Federal Lead Paint Ban
Sold at: Walmart stores and Walmart.com
BSN SPORTS Recalls Rubber Critter Toys Due to Violation of Federal Lead Paint Ban
Sold at: Walmart.com
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Sold at: Walmart stores and Walmart.com
And you have to remember that games are ENTERTAINMENT products. There's few ways to objectively judge such a thing. A broken TV is a broken TV. A leaky ink cartidge is a leaky ink cartidge.
But a book, a movie or a game, barring physical media damage there is no real objective way to determine good from bad. For all people joke about trash romance novels, people still buy them buy the literal tonne. People still pay ticket prices to watch adam sandler movies, people still listen to country western music.. Be damned if I can understand why.
People like what they like and so long as someone genuinely says they had fun with a game.. that's enough.
Define 'real effort'. Again you're making the assumption that your subjectinve reasonings are objective constants. They aren't. So the simple solutionm is, buy what YOU want to buy. Play what YOU think ius fun and let OTHERS do the same.
Valve is gradually weeding out the bad actors by making the acts less profitable. You and those like you can do the same. DOn't buy games just because they're cheap or because you'd rather your game count end with an even/odd number.
And for the olove of stan have some actual criteria in your searches.
you can watch a 3.53 minute video of it on youtube...
but "game buying addiction" people want more...
indie games ok:
rocket league
Terraria
the stanley parable
torchlight
in short games that are indie, but looks like some sort of passion and effort went into it
games that I found that you can't say is "real effort:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/962080/Dangerous_Ground/ - a game where your just a gray circle avoiding triangles, and yes its not out yet, but it will be, and it seems the dev does make ok games, yet puts out bad ones as well
https://store.steampowered.com/app/897760/PUT_ANNA/ - ok so basically a little effort, its a game made in rpg maker and its about anime girl going to russia, I just mentioned it because of the trailer you should watch is lololol from the trailer "women with low social respobility"
https://store.steampowered.com/app/826130/Pilferer/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/757720/Evil_Come/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/801510/Only_You/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/805780/The_Last_Hero/
all are 2d games with the same design and levels, with asset flips, and from my short research all companies have made one game, so its safe to say its the game dev using different fake game company names, and all games have come out in a short 4 month timespan, and noted that only you and the last hero have the same exact assets with different backgrounds, this again is a example of at least misusing steam, and should be looked in, but more likely won't
sure but when their is enough outcry, shouldn't it be look into, I can only name DH games that were mostly bad reviews, yet steam took it off for another reason
people like jim sterling, who actually take the time to go over every aspect of a game, again yes I know its subjective, but unlike steam, he isn't being paid by someone to say its a bad or good game. it should be noted that Digital Homicide and its games were removed from steam alltogether, not because it was a bad company but the dev was so toxic by trying to sue its users, which shows that valve cares about its users, but not enough to prevent them from buying games that like DH games, should never have been on steam
Isn't Youtube full of 'Crap videos'?
Instagram & co of 'Crap photographers'?
Music full of 'Crap composers'?
Literature full of 'Crap writers'?
People have been too used to content and entertainment being a scarcity driven industry (Studios deciding what and when is released to the public) than choice becomes overwhelming once distribution channels get a low entry barrier.
The catalog of content is no longer a selection but certainly the whole catalog. People who still expect it to find a selection there are the ones most noticing 'Crap games'
Other people are already used to get their selection from the catalog elsewhere and don't even notice that content.
I know I know, but again some of these games are asking for money, the difference is on youtube you don't pay to watch someone like markiplier
I understand that yes, the casual crowd won't see these games, but shouldn't they have at least quality assurance games like zelda, that are assured are great games? all I am saying is companies turn down movies and games for a reason, am saying at the very least steam needs to at least look longer at the games that it allows it to be on its platform, we aren't talking about just bad games, we are talking about games that should not even be considered a game
Well there's no such thing as a fake company name. in these regards sole-proprietor endeavours of this nature can change their name quite easily. It's pretty much as easy as changing a letterhead. Again all of that is irrelevant because again, someone might actually consider those games a worthy experience for the price. asked.
Yeah DH tried to drag Valve into a legal battle and as is standard practice all financial relations were ceased pending the conclusion of the legal affairs. DH however folded before such conclusion could be reached ergo... what we have now.
And basing action on outcry is never a good thing. I mean imagine if the next crazy shooter is found to have played pubg. You know there'd be some public outcry about it and as such would you then be okay with valve and every other store front removing the game because a bunch of people who don't like it decided that no one should ever have the chance to see if they might like it?
And who is basically the person who spends money on and exploits these games for his own monetary gain. He's essentially the reason most people ever here of these games. Without him the games would just languish in the tar. One can actually correlate to the rise in games of this sort with the rise of toobers like Jimmy-Boy. Coincidence?
He actually is. He's being paid by youtube and his patreon supporters. He gets ad revenue from those videos you know. And he long ago learned that his user base would rather here him rage at bad games than actually talk about good games. Negativity sells. And you're the buyer :)
Not so much caring about users but just following legal protocol. Valve would have turned over the information if there was ever a court ordered subpoena. And think about that. How would you likee it if a store prevented you from buying say CoD because they felt it wasn't good enough? What you're saying is that you actively want a third party to tell you what to buy. Rather than say actually just learning to make your own decisions.
Here;s the clincher. Those games you listed./ I'm willing to bet no one else here ever heard of or saw them before you brought them up. so the question you need to ask yourself is why people like say me.. never see those games but can still find literally hundreds of games worth buying (wishlist at 324 games and rising) while you and others likely you seem to find them in droves?
Maybe its because we're not scouring the store for the newest and/or cheapest games. Like said. Apply some standards and criteria to your searches and you won't run into those games.
Steam is a store. It sells what people wnt . So if you're searching for it, you must want it,.IF you add it to your cart youmust want it, and if you purchase it youy certainly wanted it. So why shouldn't steam allow someone to buy something they have three times over expressed a desire for?
If you really have a problem just pick a couple curators and follow their recommendations. I think even Jimmy-boy has a list or two he curates. Just buy the games he recommends. The idea of protecting people from their own choices is absurdly wrong on so many levels.
again the point was they would be playing the same game, but the kicker is he raised the price on two of them, that are just the same exact game, its not even a asset flip as much as a couple of changes to the artwork
from the blog:https://steamcommunity.com/games/593110/announcements/detail/1328973169870947116
Digital paperwork. We need to know about the person and/or company that we will be doing business with. So the digital paperwork includes all the expected information such as company name, address, and contact information. There is also a brief tax and identity verification process that a developer will need to go through once to get set up.
the companies
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its wierd that something like this got by them, but from the blog, while it is easy as changing a letterhead, he/she would need the correct papers to do so, this is why I think their are no muiltiple companies but just one giving steam random information to sell the same game again
true, jim mainly talks about bad games, but isn't being bought by his fans to crap over something like zelda or fortnite, and in the end like I said he isn't being bought off to say something like RDR2 is crap or a certain game he likes, he has to say its bad, adverts and supporters give him money, but they have little to do with making the videos
True, even hardcore gamers on steam don't look at all the bad games untill its pointed out to them. the main issue is even if it isn't searched by some gamers, these games(not all I listed) are basically scams, intent to get someone who is unaware of what they really bought, someone is how is very gulible, all I am saying is if steam is saying
we have a couple of brief review periods where our team plays each game to check that it is configured correctly, matches the description provided on the store page, and doesn't contain malicious content.
then all I want is QA that they are indeed doing this to every game, its a huge I know, but again they need to set the example for the digital market, not be the problem
though I will say I am enjoying talking with you, as early last week I didn't have a great first impression of the forums, though maybe my fault, its nice to see a civil argument, I have learned now to kinda talk less about me and more about other things
You don't have to pay to watch these games either.
What's quality?
Zelda is quality... But, PUBG is? Genital Jousting?
No Man Sky was a 'assured great game' at one time
What would you prefer... A place where you could find any game you want or having to go to a different store for different games.
Which more than often has little to do with quality. The Emoji Movie was released by such a big company as Sony Pictures.
yes but it isnt like they are demending to pay, they ask if you can donate, steam games on the other hand, make you pay or don't play
What would you prefer... A place where you could find any game you want or having to go to a different store for different games. [/quote]
I'd prefer steam not to give any random john doe a place to sell they very obivous half baked games, again you don't go and buy a movie and expect it to be half finished, these games aren't finished, they are rushed, and again I am not talking about early access, we are talking about steam direct games in general
which is why there isn't going to be a emoji movie 2 movie, like the 2016 ghostbusters, sony is most likely not going to make another movie that flopped at the box office
so why does steam continue to let the same devs continue to make such low quality games? MONEY
Tertis clone with Hentai titty pics. Nah. Tetris clone with kitten pics.. sign me up! It's tlike how someone wants a red iphone but doesn't really care for a silver one. People have different tastes.
Who said it did. There's no limit to the number of studios that a person can or be a part of. THat's why I said there's no such thing as a fake name. THe other info especially the tax info has to be real. As does the bank account.
Yes because he knows better than to crap on the games his fanbase actually play and like.. no matter how overrated they are. He knows where his bread is buttered.
No they are not scams.. they are just 'games you do not like'. And as for peoiple being unaware.. really? You'd rather assume that someone is a gullible moron rather than say they just have different but equaslly valid preferences in their choice of entertainment?
Look at the store page for any of those games you listed. Do any of them look like they'd fool anyone who didn't actually want to buy those games?
The check to make sure the game starts and that it is an actual game. I.e an interactive experience where by the player performs some given action or set of actions to achieve a certain goal, win-state., or end-state. That's it. If it meets those criteria its a game. and becomes a matter for someone else to decide if they want to spend money on it.
Shhh not so loud. I've got a reputatiuon to maintain around here.