Global mods vs Game mods.

[Sernior]

What is the difference? I was curious if there were general rules (set by valve) regarding Game mods and in general how the Game discussions should be handled.

If I create a game and have my own Game discussions and my own Game mods, are there some steam rules I have to follow or I can do what I want?

Are like Global mods considered superior to game mods or they just moderate different forum?

[Crystal Sharrd]

Global mods are appointed by Valve to moderate the Steam Discussions in general. Game mods are appointed by the game developer to moderate a game's own discussions.
And you would still have to follow Steam's rules if you created your own games.
AFAIK. You'd have to ask a mod like Spawn of Totoro to be sure. I've heard Valve recruits mods the same way the Men in Black do.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

The rules for all the forums are the same. Game hubs can add more rules as long as they don't go overboard with them.

[Zefar]

Well I can tell you that we Global Mods have not abused our powers like some Third Party mods have and we have probably Moderated for far longer time than the third party mods.

Now that's not to say mistakes can't happen with us Global Mods but we won't go on a ban spree and ban for no good reasons.

We also would lose our Moderator status quite quickly if we started to abuse our powers because believe it or not but the group as a whole care about the image of Global Moderators.
Valve also wouldn't like us doing it at all.

[Commander Fluffles]

Global mods (in my experience at least) also rarely interfere with game hubs unless requested and usually show up to unmoderated hubs.

If you make a game you must follow steams rules but you can add your own. (For example no spoiler threads will be allowed)

[Sernior]

Thanks for the answers.

So if I understand it right...

Game moderetors must follow these:
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4045-USHJ-3810

Plus they can add any rule they want even if it may look unjust to some users?

[Commander Fluffles]

Escrito originalmente por 123:

Thanks for the answers.

So if I understand it right...

Game moderetors must follow these:
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4045-USHJ-3810

Plus they can add any rule they want even if it may look unjust to some users?

Yes & No.

Can't add rules like "anyone who disagrees with me gets bannned!" but they can add hub specific rules.

For example the hub i moderate we have a rule if you post leaked information on the forum we take the thread down.

[Sernior]

Escrito originalmente por Commander Fluffles:

Escrito originalmente por 123:

Thanks for the answers.

So if I understand it right...

Game moderetors must follow these:
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4045-USHJ-3810

Plus they can add any rule they want even if it may look unjust to some users?

Yes & No.

Can't add rules like "anyone who disagrees with me gets bannned!" but they can add hub specific rules.

For example the hub i moderate we have a rule if you post leaked information on the forum we take the thread down.

In a particular game hub I had a controversy with one of the game Developers that ended that I could not advertise in said hub my game-related group, as it by their saying "antagonizes" said game develepers (before you ask... no I was not banned or anything it was a peaceful private chat conversation).

Our group discussions are moderated and we follow these:

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4045-USHJ-3810

Instead of their rules.

I wanted to know in particular if this is a valid behaviour by them.

Yes & No. I don't know if this falls under Yes or No.

Is this an abuse by them or not?

The problem here is that except for the rules I linked I could not find any documentation regarding the power of the game mods. What people can and cannot do in a game hub.

I don't understand because some games hubs look like they are being moderated on the behalf of those who develop the game instead that moderated for the people who use the hub. This is also not the first time I see a similar behaviour in game hubs.

[Commander Fluffles]

Technically not abuse if they don't want you to advertise they have the right to tell you not to advertise.

However saying that it 'antagonizes' others is not a valid reason IMO, but if they say 'please do not advertise.' that is perfectly valid.

[Sernior]

Escrito originalmente por Commander Fluffles:

Technically not abuse if they don't want you to advertise they have the right to tell you not to advertise.

However saying that it 'antagonizes' others is not a valid reason IMO, but if they say 'please do not advertise.' that is perfectly valid.

But they do not say anywhere "do not advertise".

Actually they also have a section for it.

This is the point.

At this point I think I need to talk with a global mod in private if it is possible.

As I really feel that in my case some people are overstepping their bounds.

[Commander Fluffles]

Issue is it's sad to say this but their hub their rules.

If they arent just banning everyone left and right theres not a whole lot that will be done, Zefar is in this thread and i reccomend if you want clarification comment on his profile and ask to have a chat.

I wish you the best of luck but understand that hub admins can do (almost) anything they want if it was an issue with a moderator contact the developers and explain in detail with evidence why the moderator was abusing power.

[Sernior]

Escrito originalmente por Commander Fluffles:

Issue is it's sad to say this but their hub their rules.

If they arent just banning everyone left and right theres not a whole lot that will be done, Zefar is in this thread and i reccomend if you want clarification comment on his profile and ask to have a chat.

I wish you the best of luck but understand that hub admins can do (almost) anything they want if it was an issue with a moderator contact the developers and explain in detail with evidence why the moderator was abusing power.

Thank you. I will try to contact him.

@Zefar if you see this I sent you a friend request.

[Zefar]

Escrito originalmente por 123:

But they do not say anywhere "do not advertise".

Actually they also have a section for it.

This is the point.

At this point I think I need to talk with a global mod in private if it is possible.

As I really feel that in my case some people are overstepping their bounds.

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4045-USHJ-3810
*Soliciting, begging, auctioning, raffling, selling, advertising, referrals

Advertising is not allowed because if we allowed it people would just spam their Steam group, homepage, Discord and server names all over the community.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

They can allow advertising if they wish. Ask them or look for a pinned thread that explains the rules for their game hub.

[Commander Fluffles]

Developer Advertising Is not the same as player advertising.

A developers forum is there to discuss the game and promote the game to a certain extent if they have say an ingame event or a 'if you need tech support come to this discord' that's up to them.

If they want to close down random people posting random discords that's totally on them aswell.

Theres a lot of people who spam in multiple game forums 'WE HAVE A DISCORD WHERE WE PLAY [Insert long list of games here]' so it's understandable devs take down those threads.

But hey when it comes to game hubs it's each their own you'll get a mixed bag of mods and devs depending on the hub.