Family Library Sharing

[Morcail]

Library sharing is useless. When I first signed up for it, it allowed multiple people in my house to play different games at the same time. Which is amazing when you have more than one gamer under your roof, who enjoy different styles of games.
Not sure when the recent changes came about, but it has now made family sharing completely pointless. In order for either of us to play any games, it either has to be on our own accounts separately, or we have to log in for each other to play games on each others libraries, or one person can't play the game theyd like to because the other is using their account for another game.
What's the point of having family sharing, if you can't share with your family?

Just seems like I'm not being told that I can't play on my Xbox, because my brother is playing on his, when we both have our own set up. Sure can't play the same games at the same time. But there should be no reason we can't swap and play each others games, or borrow a game they arent using to play.

[J4MESOX4D]

KDStudios (Dan)님이 먼저 게시:

The whole premise behind Family Sharing just
DOES
NOT
WORK.
There is NO point in sharing your steam library with someone else in your household when only ONE account can play a game at a time

As account sharing is a violation of the SSA; library sharing was introduced as an alternative.

Do you honestly think developers and publishers would be happy with Valve if they allowed for people to share libraries so they could play at the same time? That would be an incentive for users not to bother buying games and would see the feature diminish as many pubs/devs would just opt out of it altogether. Family Sharing is fair, balanced and does exactly what it was designed to do.

[shiel]

White Whiskey Zulu님이 먼저 게시:

I don't recommend doing this unless you know what you're doing. But I start a new account every time I buy a game.

I can share with my mom. I can share with my friends. I can share with my moms friends. I can sell my games. I can randomlly give them away to people asking about games in forums so they don't have to give Steam their money. I can get banned for trolling forums over and over again and keep coming back.

:)

Beyond rediculous.

[Muhmaster]

2 games should be playable on 1 account. just think about familys with 2+ children. it´s a serious problem. and buy all games 2 or 3 times is not and option.

[Start_Running]

Muhmaster님이 먼저 게시:

2 games should be playable on 1 account. just think about familys with 2+ children. it´s a serious problem. and buy all games 2 or 3 times is not and option.

Teach the kiddies to take turns.

[୨ಠ ͜つಠ୧]

Start_Running님이 먼저 게시:

Muhmaster님이 먼저 게시:

2 games should be playable on 1 account. just think about familys with 2+ children. it´s a serious problem. and buy all games 2 or 3 times is not and option.

Teach the kiddies to take turns.

or use a lot of different steam accounts

[shiel]

Muhmaster님이 먼저 게시:

2 games should be playable on 1 account. just think about familys with 2+ children. it´s a serious problem. and buy all games 2 or 3 times is not and option.

If the family has a capable gaming pc for each of their kids then I don't think money is an issue.

[Pistols ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥]

Morcail님이 먼저 게시:

Just seems like I'm not being told that I can't play on my Xbox, because my brother is playing on his, when we both have our own set up.

Now.... just re-read what you typed and see if you can spot where the issue is. You said "when we both have our own set up", which will of course allow you two to play on two physical systems. Family sharing on steam is as if you have ONE system, not two, just as if you were to have only 1 xbox in your home it would not be possible for you and someone else to play the same game at the same time (unless it's a co-op, but that is irrelevant). Despite that you two have two different steam accounts, the game license is treated as 1 "console", therefor only 1 person can use it at a time.

I understand that people WANT family sharing to enable two people to play the games at the same time, but people being who they are, aren't going to be exactly honest and trust worthy. "Sure, i'll buy the game and only share it with one person" then immediately shares it among every single one of their friends and effectively costing valve and developers their money.

[୨ಠ ͜つಠ୧]

shiel님이 먼저 게시:

Muhmaster님이 먼저 게시:

2 games should be playable on 1 account. just think about familys with 2+ children. it´s a serious problem. and buy all games 2 or 3 times is not and option.

If the family has a capable gaming pc for each of their kids then I don't think money is an issue.

if they don't play recent games they may have cheap computers ...i can play every game older than 3-4 years on my 8 years old computer (and a lot of very recent games too)

[electrofryed]

J4MESOX4D님이 먼저 게시:

KDStudios (Dan)님이 먼저 게시:

The whole premise behind Family Sharing just
DOES
NOT
WORK.
There is NO point in sharing your steam library with someone else in your household when only ONE account can play a game at a time

As account sharing is a violation of the SSA; library sharing was introduced as an alternative.

Do you honestly think developers and publishers would be happy with Valve if they allowed for people to share libraries so they could play at the same time? That would be an incentive for users not to bother buying games and would see the feature diminish as many pubs/devs would just opt out of it altogether. Family Sharing is fair, balanced and does exactly what it was designed to do.

Seriously!? I don't think my 10yo that wants to play a game with me over a LAN would be considered a gaming pirate. That's ridiculas.

[electrofryed]

...=/Touch3dMyP33n님이 먼저 게시:

Morcail님이 먼저 게시:

Just seems like I'm not being told that I can't play on my Xbox, because my brother is playing on his, when we both have our own set up.

Now.... just re-read what you typed and see if you can spot where the issue is. You said "when we both have our own set up", which will of course allow you two to play on two physical systems. Family sharing on steam is as if you have ONE system, not two, just as if you were to have only 1 xbox in your home it would not be possible for you and someone else to play the same game at the same time (unless it's a co-op, but that is irrelevant). Despite that you two have two different steam accounts, the game license is treated as 1 "console", therefor only 1 person can use it at a time.

I understand that people WANT family sharing to enable two people to play the games at the same time, but people being who they are, aren't going to be exactly honest and trust worthy. "Sure, i'll buy the game and only share it with one person" then immediately shares it among every single one of their friends and effectively costing valve and developers their money.

So the solution is to treat my children as evil gaming pirates because they want to play games over a LAN together. I figured we'd be past this siliness in 2017. Does steam not have the technology to diferenciate a LAN address vs a WAN address?

[electrofryed]

electrofryed님이 먼저 게시:

...=/Touch3dMyP33n님이 먼저 게시:

Now.... just re-read what you typed and see if you can spot where the issue is. You said "when we both have our own set up", which will of course allow you two to play on two physical systems. Family sharing on steam is as if you have ONE system, not two, just as if you were to have only 1 xbox in your home it would not be possible for you and someone else to play the same game at the same time (unless it's a co-op, but that is irrelevant). Despite that you two have two different steam accounts, the game license is treated as 1 "console", therefor only 1 person can use it at a time.

I understand that people WANT family sharing to enable two people to play the games at the same time, but people being who they are, aren't going to be exactly honest and trust worthy. "Sure, i'll buy the game and only share it with one person" then immediately shares it among every single one of their friends and effectively costing valve and developers their money.

So the solution is to treat my children as evil gaming pirates because they want to play games over a LAN together. I figured we'd be past this siliness in 2017. Does steam not have the technology to diferenciate a LAN address vs a WAN address?

Microsoft and Sony is able to handle this issue using sub accounts. Why not Steam?

[76561198001062896]

electrofryed님이 먼저 게시:

...=/Touch3dMyP33n님이 먼저 게시:

Now.... just re-read what you typed and see if you can spot where the issue is. You said "when we both have our own set up", which will of course allow you two to play on two physical systems. Family sharing on steam is as if you have ONE system, not two, just as if you were to have only 1 xbox in your home it would not be possible for you and someone else to play the same game at the same time (unless it's a co-op, but that is irrelevant). Despite that you two have two different steam accounts, the game license is treated as 1 "console", therefor only 1 person can use it at a time.

I understand that people WANT family sharing to enable two people to play the games at the same time, but people being who they are, aren't going to be exactly honest and trust worthy. "Sure, i'll buy the game and only share it with one person" then immediately shares it among every single one of their friends and effectively costing valve and developers their money.

So the solution is to treat my children as evil gaming pirates because they want to play games over a LAN together. I figured we'd be past this siliness in 2017. Does steam not have the technology to diferenciate a LAN address vs a WAN address?

Dont put word in peoples mouth

electrofryed님이 먼저 게시:

electrofryed님이 먼저 게시:

So the solution is to treat my children as evil gaming pirates because they want to play games over a LAN together. I figured we'd be past this siliness in 2017. Does steam not have the technology to diferenciate a LAN address vs a WAN address?

Microsoft and Sony is able to handle this issue using sub accounts. Why not Steam?

Please show me where in the world you are able to share and use the same account to play different games at the same time by multiple people either on Xbox One or PS4 or the Switch

[shiel]

Zetikla님이 먼저 게시:

electrofryed님이 먼저 게시:

Microsoft and Sony is able to handle this issue using sub accounts. Why not Steam?

Please show me where in the world you are able to share and use the same account to play different games at the same time by multiple people either on Xbox One or PS4 or the Switch

You actually can on xb1(not on the same account but stay with me). Not sure how it works on the other systems(or if it does) but iirc you basically set your home console as your friends/siblings/significant others console. Then you install the games on it. They are then able to use their account to play those games and you can use your own account to play the same games at the same time.

I might not be completely accurate there. A friend explained to me what him and his fiancè do... I'm not speaking from first hand experience.

That being said... electrofried is definitely jumping the gun with their other comment. When I was younger, me and a friend used to split on games...I remember splitting on Medal of Honor Allied Assault... we both installed and then each used a disk to play online. Technically wasn't legit but I would hardly have called us pirates.

[Omen3608]

electrofryed님이 먼저 게시:

Seriously!? I don't think my 10yo that wants to play a game with me over a LAN would be considered a gaming pirate. That's ridiculas.

Is it? Let me put it into hashtags for you...

#1980s #1990s #C64 #ARMSTRAD/SCHNEIDER #AMIGA #ATARI_ST #Datasette #FloppyDisks #SHARING #WAKEUP # :)

Edit: Forgot... #nothinghaschanged :P

[electrofryed]

shiel님이 먼저 게시:

Zetikla님이 먼저 게시:

Please show me where in the world you are able to share and use the same account to play different games at the same time by multiple people either on Xbox One or PS4 or the Switch

You actually can on xb1(not on the same account but stay with me). Not sure how it works on the other systems(or if it does) but iirc you basically set your home console as your friends/siblings/significant others console. Then you install the games on it. They are then able to use their account to play those games and you can use your own account to play the same games at the same time.

I might not be completely accurate there. A friend explained to me what him and his fiancè do... I'm not speaking from first hand experience.

That being said... electrofried is definitely jumping the gun with their other comment. When I was younger, me and a friend used to split on games...I remember splitting on Medal of Honor Allied Assault... we both installed and then each used a disk to play online. Technically wasn't legit but I would hardly have called us pirates.

We play Borderlands 2 on PS3 over a LAN together alot, because the split screen feature is too visually restrictive. His PSN account is a sub account managed by me so he has access to all the DLC that I have. I even gets an allowance (authorized by me) to purchase additional DLC that we share when we play together. The only restriction to having multiple PS3's is he can't do his homework on it. :P