Microtransactions are ruining everything.

[Weird Grim]

I'm not going to make blocks of text about microtransactions and how bad they are, no.
I ask to you all out there to add the "Gambling" tag to all paid games who sell stuff that changes the gameplay.

Microtransactions in F2P games are ok, and that you can only get cosmetic stuff from microtransactions in paid games is bearable, not ok but bearable.

[Start_Running]

引用自 MNI Weird Grim：

You do know that stuff in the microtransactions is part of the full game, so if they get rid of microtransactions we will not lose anything, on the contrary we will gain stuff.

Or without MTX they will see no benefit in devoting the resources and man hours to creating that content in the first place.Or they'll do what they did in the old days and sell it to you as An Expack or DLC.

And yes i know games are getting more expensive, but i rader buy a 80€ complete game then a 60€ game with microtransactions.

You make it sound like the game isn't complete without the mTX. Then again if the game wasn't a complete experience witrhout MTX I doubt anyone would actually buy the game let alone the MTX.

And watch some videos about the new Star Wars game, it's a 60€ P2W game and playing good is useless, to get rewarded in the game you need to extent the game as long as posseble so don't go for the win but stall the game(if you get 30 kills and won the game and a other only 2 kill and was afk most of the time you both get the same reward at the end).

And lo and behold I can thusly choose not to buy said game. Anyone (who wassmart wenough to not rush out to buy the game on day 1) has ability and even those who were silly can simply decide not to keep playing the game and move on to other games having learned a lesson.

[Weird Grim]

引用自 Start_Running：

引用自 MNI Weird Grim：

You do know that stuff in the microtransactions is part of the full game, so if they get rid of microtransactions we will not lose anything, on the contrary we will gain stuff.

Or without MTX they will see no benefit in devoting the resources and man hours to creating that content in the first place.Or they'll do what they did in the old days and sell it to you as An Expack or DLC.

Then give me the DLC atleast then you know what your getting then a random loot crate.

And yes i know games are getting more expensive, but i rader buy a 80€ complete game then a 60€ game with microtransactions.

You make it sound like the game isn't complete without the mTX. Then again if the game wasn't a complete experience witrhout MTX I doubt anyone would actually buy the game let alone the MTX.

Stuff get pulled from the game content to put in the loot crates, DLC(some DLC's not all of them, if you can see some of the DLC content from day 1 it's pulled from the game), pre-order bonus.

And watch some videos about the new Star Wars game, it's a 60€ P2W game and playing good is useless, to get rewarded in the game you need to extent the game as long as posseble so don't go for the win but stall the game(if you get 30 kills and won the game and a other only 2 kill and was afk most of the time you both get the same reward at the end).

And lo and behold I can thusly choose not to buy said game. Anyone (who wassmart wenough to not rush out to buy the game on day 1) has ability and even those who were silly can simply decide not to keep playing the game and move on to other games having learned a lesson.

Yea and what if this is the future whole games focust on loot crates because some are spending alot of money at microtransactions.

[Gallifrey - CSSC Gaming Founder]

The problem is that there are games I'd love to play if they didn't have micro transactions. Voting with my wallet and getting other people to do the same will deter developers from introducing microtransactions.

S.x.

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引用自 MNI Weird Grim：

Yea and what if this is the future whole games focust on loot crates because some are spending alot of money at microtransactions.

some are spending a lot of money of microtransactions ,that's the key word ,just some gamers do it
and as long as they don't become the high majority of gamers we will be able to play good games without microtransactions

[Weird Grim]

引用自 nameous name：

引用自 MNI Weird Grim：

Yea and what if this is the future whole games focust on loot crates because some are spending alot of money at microtransactions.

some are spending a lot of money of microtransactions ,that's the key word ,just some gamers do it
and as long as they don't become the high majority of gamers we will be able to play good games without microtransactions

Well those some gamers pay like 3x what the game publishers was thinking of earning out of microtransactions and thats the problem.

[Start_Running]

引用自 gallifrey：

The problem is that there are games I'd love to play if they didn't have micro transactions. Voting with my wallet and getting other people to do the same will deter developers from introducing microtransactions.

S.x.

Voting doesn'tr really do much ifd you're in the miunority and this is after all a plutocracy. Those that spend have louder voices than those that don't.

引用自 MNI Weird Grim：

引用自 nameous name：

some are spending a lot of money of microtransactions ,that's the key word ,just some gamers do it
and as long as they don't become the high majority of gamers we will be able to play good games without microtransactions

Well those some gamers pay like 3x what the game publishers was thinking of earning out of microtransactions and thats the problem.

Which means it's going to be very hard for your not spending to register on a Developer's radar. You have a set of people who will spend monbey on your game and the MYX, that's who you're going to try to please.

I mean making changes that hurt your bottom line in order to please people who weren't buying your stuff anyway doesn't really work. I mean look at what all that SJW'ing did to Marvel.

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引用自 MNI Weird Grim：

引用自 nameous name：

some are spending a lot of money of microtransactions ,that's the key word ,just some gamers do it
and as long as they don't become the high majority of gamers we will be able to play good games without microtransactions

Well those some gamers pay like 3x what the game publishers was thinking of earning out of microtransactions and thats the problem.

but we pay for our games too ,then some devs will keep doing games without microtransactions

[Start_Running]

引用自 nameous name：

引用自 MNI Weird Grim：

Well those some gamers pay like 3x what the game publishers was thinking of earning out of microtransactions and thats the problem.

but we pay for our games too ,then someone devs will keep doing games without microtransactions

There was no danger of them not doing games without MTX. I mean really where do you... Ohj iu get it you only buy from AAA devs and with trheir rather small yearly release rate you might have actual cause to worried.

Well here's the thing if they're making more mony from MTX games than non MTX games then they're gonna keep pushing that.. Of course if you don't buy MTX games then they just figure you wren'ta gamer any way and continue cattering to the people with the deep wallets.

[Gallifrey - CSSC Gaming Founder]

引用自 Start_Running：

引用自 gallifrey：

The problem is that there are games I'd love to play if they didn't have micro transactions. Voting with my wallet and getting other people to do the same will deter developers from introducing microtransactions.

S.x.

Voting doesn'tr really do much ifd you're in the miunority and this is after all a plutocracy. Those that spend have louder voices than those that don't.

引用自 MNI Weird Grim：

Well those some gamers pay like 3x what the game publishers was thinking of earning out of microtransactions and thats the problem.

Which means it's going to be very hard for your not spending to register on a Developer's radar. You have a set of people who will spend monbey on your game and the MYX, that's who you're going to try to please.

I mean making changes that hurt your bottom line in order to please people who weren't buying your stuff anyway doesn't really work. I mean look at what all that SJW'ing did to Marvel.

Yes - but 10% of customers paying on average double the value of the game on microtransactions doesn't balance out 50% of your customers not buying the game at all.

Consumer power exists - if we are not daunted by the voices saying "it cannot be done".

S.x.

[ReBoot]

Yo guys, theres a simple solution. Don't be a part of the problem! Vote with your wallet and just GTFO. I won't buy Shadow of War despite having enjoyed the predecessor.

[Start_Running]

引用自 gallifrey：

引用自 Start_Running：

Voting doesn'tr really do much ifd you're in the miunority and this is after all a plutocracy. Those that spend have louder voices than those that don't.



Which means it's going to be very hard for your not spending to register on a Developer's radar. You have a set of people who will spend monbey on your game and the MYX, that's who you're going to try to please.

I mean making changes that hurt your bottom line in order to please people who weren't buying your stuff anyway doesn't really work. I mean look at what all that SJW'ing did to Marvel.

Yes - but 10% of customers paying on average double the value of the game on microtransactions doesn't balance out 50% of your customers not buying the game at all.

Consumer power exists - if we are not daunted by the voices saying "it cannot be done".

S.x.

If they're not buying , They aren't your customers are they? Again it creates the dichotomy. You can either work to please a smaller but inherently more lucrative group, or try to cater to alarger audience.

Strangely enough, a business can do either and be quite successful, so itg boils down to ... which is easier for the business. If 1-0% paying double over the course of time for mtx and you have another 30% that are just happy to play the game sans mtx. well then . Who should the business steer towards. Those trhat might spend the money if they made the changs, or those that are spending the money .

You may have a smaller base but it's a base that can be cultivated over time.

[Gallifrey - CSSC Gaming Founder]

引用自 Start_Running：

引用自 gallifrey：

Yes - but 10% of customers paying on average double the value of the game on microtransactions doesn't balance out 50% of your customers not buying the game at all.

Consumer power exists - if we are not daunted by the voices saying "it cannot be done".

S.x.

If they're not buying , They aren't your customers are they? Again it creates the dichotomy. You can either work to please a smaller but inherently more lucrative group, or try to cater to alarger audience.

Strangely enough, a business can do either and be quite successful, so itg boils down to ... which is easier for the business. If 1-0% paying double over the course of time for mtx and you have another 30% that are just happy to play the game sans mtx. well then . Who should the business steer towards. Those trhat might spend the money if they made the changs, or those that are spending the money .

You may have a smaller base but it's a base that can be cultivated over time.

Even that 1% is likely not to stick around if the game has a bad reputation. "Bling" always means (and usually costs) more in popular games.

Notably all your arguments are based purely on immediate money to the company and nothing about long term reputation (which can really affect the bottom line) or quality of games.

S.x.

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引用自 Start_Running：

There was no danger of them not doing games without MTX. I mean really where do you...

i know ,im just answering to the OP who keep saying that in 1 or 2 years almost all the games will have microtransactions XD

[Weird Grim]

引用自 nameous name：

引用自 Start_Running：

There was no danger of them not doing games without MTX. I mean really where do you...

i know ,im just answering to the OP who keep saying that in 1 or 2 years almost all the games will have microtransactions XD

Not all but alot and i say in 5 years, now they are testing how far they can go with it, microtransactions are not really that good in single player games.

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引用自 MNI Weird Grim：

引用自 nameous name：

i know ,im just answering to the OP who keep saying that in 1 or 2 years almost all the games will have microtransactions XD

Not all but alot and i say in 5 years, now they are testing how far they can go with it, microtransactions are not really that good in single player games.

not even in 5 years XD
they are testing how far they can go ,and games with microtransactions will increase ,but we will always be able to play good games without microtransactions

come on ,how many ppl can be happy to pay that much for one videogame
most p2w games already have horrible ratings and reviews ,and there are a lot of awesome new games without microtransactions every year