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Darn shame if you ask me.
It really depends on what games you play. I just got the high end 2014 mac mini (i7 with Iris graphics). The graphics card is much improved but its still not powerful enough for some games. My mac mini 2011 for example could launch and play Tomb Raider 2013 but I had to keep on the lowest settings.
On the 2014 MM the situation is better but still not the best and by no means can i have it on the highest settings.
I also play wow (not a steam game). On 2011 Mac Mini my frame rate in battlegrounds and raids was very low .. like 2-3 FPS at times. I was lucky if it sustained 20 FPS. This on the lowest settings. Now its a lot better on my 2014 MM with frame rates between 30-40 on low settings and a bit lower on the lowest settings.
On Second Life... wow the situation is incredible. I liked to do high end photography. On my old mac mini could barely get away with mid-settings. Now I can have it on nearly ultra and still move my camera around with no issues.
I will do a benchmark in Tomb Raider and Hitman and add to this post. Both of those games were particulary hard on my old mac mini.
Hitman: Absolution
Full Screen 2560x1440 (my 27" Thunderbolt display)- Average FPS 8.43
Windowed 2014x 1152 Average FPS 10.75***
***Note this benchmark switched to full screen even though I chose windowed 2014x1152 at game launch.
Tomb Raider
Full Screen 2560x1440 - Average FPS 4.9
Windowed 1920x1080 - Average FPS 8.5
Windowed 1780x720 Average FPS 18.00
I did these two benchmarks since they were the only games which had benchmarking tests built right in. So this isn't representative of all games. Most casual games will be just fine.. as they were on my older mac mini.
@battlepirestone your reply was particular helpful. How much of a difference does the i5 versus i7 have? It sounds like you need it with the programs you run, but when it comes to gaming does it make any difference?
I'm not much of a gamer at all. I do cloud gaming on "OnLive" and every once in awhile I get into a game I like but it is just a casual thing for me.
I am in the market for a new computer, and I was interested in the new MM's. I also heard about a new game "Gone Home" and I want to try it. I wanted to make sure that any new computer I bought would be powerful enough for "Gone Home." It doesn't seem all that graphic intensive to me so I think $999 MM would handle it.
Wow. Thanks a million. But I hate to say it, this is all really above me head. What's important for me to know is just you did just fine with casual games on your older MM. That means most casual games on a new MM will be just fine (that is the higher end new MM's, not the low-end base model).
Hi Dolph! from my reserach there is very little you can squeeze out as far as processing power goes between an i5 and an i7. I am no computing pro so please don't take my word from it, this is just from my research. I've read that on the internet several times. I got an i7 just to help "just in case!" lol.
As far as Onlive goes.. there is a big difference between steam games and onlive and that is.. the game is not downloaded to your computer with Onlive so you are dependent on your internet connection bandwith for part of the graphics. I remember that was the number one reason why I left Onlive as a gaming platform because it was so internet dependent. Things might have changed a bit since then and maybe the experience might be better on my new machine. I will try it out.
Looking at Gone Home's system reguirements I'm 99% sure the newer mac minis at all tiers should work just fine with it. Their web page says "video card with 512 mb or greater vram". That doesn't say much at all, most developers will at least tell you which cards they support. But I know at least that the newer mac minis have more ram that that*** My old 2011 mac mini had 256 mb. You still might want to contact the develper to be sure.
Again if you are into casual games that aren't the multi-player or Co-op type you should be fine. My old mac mini 2011 could play many of those games just fine.
Maybe if you listed more of the types of games you play I and several others here could comment. Personally I don't play too many of the really graphics intensive games other than the ones I mentioned so my experience is limited.
Edit: ****The 2014 Mac Mini with Iris graphics has 1536 MB vram.
You're welcome.! Basically those numbers for a really CPU intensive game are a bit low for serious gamer standards that is. Anyone who wants the latest greatest most expensive machine on the market wants Frames Per Second (FPS) at 60 or higher. That is not the say less than 60 isn't playable. A decent FPS in a multi-player game like World of Warcraft is 30 FPS but you don't want to go much lower than that. It could mean the difference of getting killed by an enemy boss/player or not realizing you are somewhere where you shouldn't be for a few seconds longer than that you want to be. But things like internet/latency come into play also.
Right now, World of Warcraft on my new mac mini is soooo much better. Previously I could only play on the lowest settings, now I can play at the mid-level. I am quite happy with my new experience. Overall I feel the mac mini is much snapper and responsive than my old one. I'm sure the 1 TB fusion drive makes a difference there too.
Still comparing online games to offline games is a bit tricky. Maybe someone else can comment?
I played Tomb Raider on my old mac mini and it ran fine but i had to have it on the absolute lowest settings. I wasn't happy with that because I felt like I was missing out on the beauty of the environment they created on that game. And though it ran fine I felt the older mac mini was under stress.. the fans would start to be quite audible. Certainly the introductory graphics/video was hard on it and created some screen tearing and choppiness ...making it difficult to get to the graphics settings to turn them down. On the new mac mini once they were turned down a bit all graphics are fine.
I do wish the new mac mini scored a bit higher on the benchmark tests but not sure if it really matters for my future experiences. Aside from the games I've mentioned i'm more of a casual gamer like you. I already know Tomb Raider on high settings isn't going to happen. It can mean I can run the game at mid settings probably or even at a higher resolution at lower settings.
I've only had the machine for 2 days so if I have more to share I will definitely do that with anyone who is interested.
P. S. I hope I was able to answer at least some of your questions. I know my answers are a bit mixed. I am not a computer pro. Just a casual to mid-type of gamer who loves her mac.
P. S. S. Yes you are safe with most if not all casual games on the newer mac mini. Apple finally solved this problem for us mac mini users.
Hi battleprieston, you certainly gave me a wealth of information and more than answered all my questions......and then some :) You are very gracious with your time and help.
Some of my favorite games over the years have been Splinter Cell, Silent Hunter, Bioshock, Halo, Mass Effect, Assasin's Creed, Hitman, Mafia, Braid, Battlefield. Those are the ones that come to mind but there are others that I can't recall offhand. I'm not just talking about the Originals but the Successors as well. I've used all platforms PC, Xbox, and Cloud (OnLive), but for the past couple years I've only been gaming on OnLive except Silent Hunter was on a virtual XP machine since that game was so old.
BTW, nice move on getting the i7 for the "just in case." Conventional wisdom always dictates if you can afford it then spend the extra money for the bump up. When it comes to technology generally the "just in case" comes in handy down the road and provides some future proofing.
I might try and check in with you in a couple weeks to see how your a doing with your red hot new i7 MM. Congrats on that purchase and enjoy! Many thanks. Cheers!
Sure no problem! and Thank you!
Just a side note, the future proofing is more about the graphics card (in my case the Iris card over the Intel HD 5000 on the base model). That is more important than getting i7. My understanding is where the graphics card is overwhelmed some of the CPU takes over but only so much it can do.
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