Native Apple M1-Family Support

[yahyagonder]

Why doesn't the Steam app natively support the Apple M1 processor? When I look at the Activity Monitor, it looks Intel-based, when do you plan to build an arm(apple)-based application?

[cocanard]

引用自 nodnol：

You're right, if you can't afford £2000 for a top end gaming rig to get the best performance and graphics, you should spend £3500 on a Mac.

X64 Dominates on the performance front.

Just wanted to say that the "cheapest" mac is £649 and has the m2 chip (now yes you'll have to upgrade for the ssd and the ram but that's not £3500).

I assume most mac bought at that price are macbook, and in that case there are others factors.
And even if we only focus on performances, it comes really close between 2 laptops (mac and windows) at the same price, not in gaming of course, but in some task where software is optimised for mac (and thinking gaming is the only way to show performance is a mistake in my opinion)

[Large Tomatoes]

引用自 cocanard：

Just wanted to say that the "cheapest" mac is £649 and has the m2 chip (now yes you'll have to upgrade for the ssd and the ram but that's not £3500).

I assume most mac bought at that price are macbook, and in that case there are others factors.
And even if we only focus on performances, it comes really close between 2 laptops (mac and windows) at the same price, not in gaming of course, but in some task where software is optimised for mac (and thinking gaming is the only way to show performance is a mistake in my opinion)

But we are talking about gaming, and I've already said multiple times that I use a MBP M2 Max for work because it offers good battery life and performance. My XPS with a 12900HK easily beats my M2 Max running performance heavy tasks, however, it runs the battery down in 2 hours.

[Vovó Uva]

Early adopters problems. I'd love to have more games with native support, tho

[SushiMushi]

Is there already an Apple Silicon Beta from Steam? Or even a date when finally the Apple Silicon version comes?

There are no more current Macs with Intel. So it would be time to update this old software years ago.

[valentinegb]

A native Apple Silicon version of Steam is absolutely necessary. If Valve is going to have a Mac version of Steam, which they should as Macs are now more than ever perfectly capable machines, Valve needs to do it right! Steam has a lot of issues on Mac, but one of its biggest is performance, which is certainly not the fault of the machine. Valve needs to take Mac seriously!

I know I'm not really contributing much to this thread, but my hope is that one more person shouting to make this happen will make our voices just a little bit louder.

[lewiszlw]

There are so many softwares on steam, not only games. Currently the user experience of steam client for m1 mac is very bad. Please care about it a bit.

[Attori Anzo]

for me it would be enough, if steam had an option, which is showing silicon available games in store and also in my library. some games like metro 2033 are shown as not available. but you can play them on m1. and some games as like witcher 2 are shown as available, but they run only on intel macs.

i don't understand the discussion here about the performance of m1. valve released a device last year, which is much weaker than m1 and i am sure it is sold much less than apple m1 devices. apple arcade is the most popular arcade service on the world and in the upcoming years, ipad users will have the same hardware and it will be more popular.

apple is the dominating market leader in gaming business. not steam. google has also more revenue than steam. and those companies are making about 70% of their revenues from gaming business.

believe or not, gaming is not only the aaa games as like red dead redemption 2. i am telling this as someone, who owns a rx 6800 xt. there are actually many games, which are available on apple silicon. there are many games, which requires not so much hardware power and every single purchase is important for independent developers. steam can even sell arm based games on the store. if you can buy x86_64 games on your iphone or android app, why not buying arm based games or in-game content on windows computers.

70% percent of web visitors are using arm devices. a similar ratio is also applis to the gaming world. microsoft didn't pay 70 billion usd to Activision for Call of Duty. The most of the money was paid for Candy Crush. I can play RDR 2 on my Gaming PC or Xbox. But at the same time I can play Psychonauts 2, Divinity 2, Civilization or even Resident Evil 8 on my Macbook. What's wrong with that.

[BensThoughts]

The bigger the community gets, and the more Apple silicon spreads (as it naturally will continue to), the more support we will see. I started a website for the community, so that we can crowdsource information about what games run (or don't) and the kinds of tweaks we may need to get them running. check out https://www.steamedapples.com

[Homy]

引用自 BensThoughts：

The bigger the community gets, and the more Apple silicon spreads (as it naturally will continue to), the more support we will see. I started a website for the community, so that we can crowdsource information about what games run (or don't) and the kinds of tweaks we may need to get them running. check out https://www.steamedapples.com

That's great. I'm going to spread the word. Could you just add info about the games being 32-bit or 64-bit so people don't have to read the reviews and can directly see it? Like under the game thumbnail?

[SirMrRogers]

引用自 Cathulhu：

Well, how many games on Steam do you know that natively support M1?
I know of ONE.

off the top of my head i believe these are both native apple silicon

Timberborn
Baldurs Gate 3

[soberowy]

引用自 SirMrRogers：

引用自 Cathulhu：

Well, how many games on Steam do you know that natively support M1?
I know of ONE.

off the top of my head i believe these are both native apple silicon

Timberborn
Baldurs Gate 3

Prodeus as well but even when you buy it on steam you have to launch the app outside of steam to use the native build, which wouldn't be a problem if steam was updated to native arm.

[Homy]

引用自 ernie：

引用自 SirMrRogers：

off the top of my head i believe these are both native apple silicon

Timberborn
Baldurs Gate 3

Prodeus as well but even when you buy it on steam you have to launch the app outside of steam to use the native build, which wouldn't be a problem if steam was updated to native arm.

There are hundreds of native games, both big and small titles, and more are coming. There is a list at https://www.applegamingwiki.com/wiki/M1_native_compatible_games_list. The list is not complete though. Here are just some:

- The Medium (upcoming)
- No Man's SKy (upcoming)
- Grid Legends (upcoming)
- RE Village + DLC Shadow of Rose
- Disney Dreamlight
- Baldur's Gate 3
- Prodeus
- Disco Elysium
- Myst
- Farming Sim 2022
- Gas Station Sim
- SimCity 4 Deluxe
- RollerCoaster Tycoon 3
- Timberborn
- The Long Dark
- WoW
- X-plane
- Total War: Rome Remastered

and more...

[taneriiim]

Also Tunic, Broken Sword: The Serpent's Curse and Factorio ;)

[Czar]

Yes I agree that we need Valve to support native Apple Silicon, starting with Steam. Valve - build it and they will come! Apple users are put off by the poor obviously non-native UI, it is very laggy under Rosetta. Even the Settings refers to the Taskbar! If you make it good then more Mac users will buy the games and buy more games.

[Justin Delamain]

引用自 Cathulhu：

Well, how many games on Steam do you know that natively support M1?
I know of ONE.

Sounds like you are oppose diversity.