thinking of getting an ipad pro or mac airbook your thoughts?

[docvalentine]

thinking of getting an ipad pro or mac airbook which mac is good for playing games like life is strange, final fantasy xv and such thoughts? thanks~xo
*ps i experience severe motion sickness and balance disorder with dizzy spells in fps games sorry~xoxo

[slxpress]

Why wouldn't you buy a PC? The reason to buy an iPad is because you love the iOS platform. And while it's true that games with a decent sized budget tend to be made for iOS prior to Android for the most part, both platforms are about free to play as much as anything else as a revenue generator. I'm not trying to knock F2P, even though it's not my cup of tea, but why would you go on Steam if that's what you're interested in primarily?

Also, understand the iPad Pro is a niche product for the most part, so there are times when games are not built to optimize its screen size, and it does create problems. Although you're also getting the most robust CPU and RAM for the iOS family, so at least it will last a bit longer, especially since it's impossible to upgrade the iOS products.

A MacBook Air should absolutely be a worst case scenario for gaming. It's a great product. It's lightweight. The battery seems to last forever. It works great within the Apple ecosystem. For any kind of day to day computer needs, IMO it's a fantastic solution. But gaming? No. Just no.

It has an integrated graphics chip, which means that any game which requires any kind of additional graphics horsepower, now matter how little, is unplayable. It runs OSX, which is the worst gaming platform out there. Either you have to wait for ports, or you're limited to whatever offerings come out for the Mac. I'm not saying there aren't any good games for the Mac, or that you can't have a good time gaming on a MacBook Air. I'm saying if you're buying something specifically for gaming, the MacBook Air is a terrible choice.

And it's not like you're saving money. Apple computers are notoriously overpriced compared to their PC counterparts.

If your dead set on going that route, by all means do so, but IMO you'd be better off spending the money on an inexpensive PC setup with a dedicated graphics card, or even better, look up how to build your own PC. Reddit has a great forum that's extremely friendly to new people. I think it's called buildaPC, but you can google it. There are other really good resources as well.

Understand, this comes from someone who loves Apple products. I love my Macs, both iMac and MacBook Pro, but I didn't buy them for gaming, and I never would. I consider it a terrible mistake.

[docvalentine]

wow mac guru stuff right there sixpress well, tbh im having a hard time reading text and playing games on pcs idont seem to have this kind of issue with macs maybe im just biased idk and a friend of mine is offering me an imac which seems to good to pass up so my next qustion would be if i absolutely have to get a mac book which one would you guys recommend thanks again sixpress really appreciate it~xo

[lilgiu]

Add me to trade ;-)

[docvalentine]

anytime~xo

[Mr.Balls]

DocValentine asked if they should get an iPad Pro or a Macbook air and which is better in playing games like Life is Strange & Final Fantasy, not reasons to get a PC over a Mac and why you don't like Mac's, etc.

The fact you want to play games that, from what I know, exist only on desktop platforms, that's your deciding factor, go for the macbook.

iPad Pro is more geared towards graphic designers/artists, thats why you almost always see the commercials using it with the Apple Pencil. If you don't do that, then it would be a waste.

The Macbook Air is the bottom of the MacBooks but will it run the games you are looking to play? Yes they will. Just don't expect to max out the graphic settings in the games because it will run into a problem. I've worked for Apple and have Apple products and if you want a recommendation on MacBooks, it's like this:

Macbook & Macbook Airs = School use ( they can be used for gaming but not recommended )

Macbook Pro = Double the power and graphics ( or more in some cases ) than what you get from the Air and Macbook

Again, For games that you mentioned, they don't require so much power that you need such a high end system for, unless you are the type that really cares to see an extra tree a mile away or something, otherwise, they are all fine to game with.

The iMac your friend is offering, post up which one it is and the price if you don't mind, to get an idea.

And to Sixpress: There is a big difference between a Mac & PC in terms of how they operate, are designed ( not just the looks but the system ) etc. which goes into the price factor. You can't compare the same mac and pc and say the pc is cheaper, its cheaper because of how its built, the system it runs, etc.
Mac's are optimized in every way, it is more efficient overall and makes better use of what it has.

It was only a little over 10 years ago when the macs of today were double the price... now they are cheap in terms of how they use to be.

I digress, but yea, i use a 2013 iMac as of now to game and Im perfectly fine, exception of the past week where Valve decided to throw out an update and it messed up my TF2 game, but again, thats on them, not the Mac where as on a PC, Microsoft throws out stuff and ruins your machine lol.

[docvalentine]

ah a mac wizard mb thanks for telling me what the difference was between the macbook air for school and macbook pro for pictures now thanks alot so now iknow what to look for

well heres the mac http://www.ebay.ph/itm/Apple-IMac-27-i7-mit-Fusion-Drive-und-GTX680M-2-GB-/401115811449?hash=item5d645d8e79:g:qF4AAOSw2GlXKiHJ

appreciate the help mb at least now i have an idea of what to look for~xo

[dmc32]

depends on what you want, the mac airbook is more work and school related imo very light very nice btw. The macbook pro is the one to own though if you want to do some gaming. I have used one for a few years here on steam. The only issue I recall is when Xcom2 came out I waited an extra week...I figured they were testing it out on windows no worries

Price wise it will cost more though and that is something to consider. A macbook with a Radeon graphics cards/SSD can handle anything. That's the rub though it will run you extra theyr'e very good though it will handle games with ease. Very very few security issues and thats just a fact. I also have 2 windows laptops with windows 10 and the security holes they have are ridiculous unbelievable to be honest, I might as well open my pc to the world. I would compare prices actually because a windows gaming rig can cost too so its not a given that a mac will cost you more. I paid for an expensive windows pc once for gaming that was worthless and got a Mac that cost less and ran better and was more secure. The ipad pro is good too use it all the time but not on anything here.

[Mr.Balls]

Doc, that iMac isn't bad but honestly, if you put in another 200 bucks you can get a brand new iMac 5K:

27-inch iMac with Retina 5K display
3.2GHz quad-core Intel Core i5, Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz
8GB 1867MHz DDR3 SDRAM - two 4GB
1TB Fusion Drive
AMD Radeon R9 M380 with 2GB video memory

This spec is 1899 on Apple's website.

The drawback ( kind of ) is the one you have on eBay is an i7 and this one is an i5 but a newer one so it would be more efficient but the i7 more power.

I don't personally think it matters in terms of which to buy based on that because the resolution and graphics card in the new one alone make it worth more than the one on eBay and that beautiful picture and graphic power is what you would want for gaming and other things, and the fact its new instead of used like the other one makes it more worth it in my opinion.

[slxpress]

Mr. Balls,

I have the first edition of the iMac 5k that came out late 2014. I have 2 editions of the MacBook Pro. I have a couple of iPads, including the latest (no iPad Pro, because like you said it's for a different market), and I have every edition of the iPhone.

I'm very well aware of Apple's optimization. I'm a big believer in Apple products for any number of reasons.

However, if someone is buying a system to game on, Apple is a poor choice, unless it's for freemium games that come out first on iOS.

The iMac 5k in particular is a horrible choice, because it's going with something less than an optimal video card in terms of gaming.

But it's not worth it to me to sit here and argue about it.

docvalentiine, if you're buying a computer to game, I'll reiterate I highly recommend a PC, running windows.

If you have to get a MacBook, and you want it for games, I'd go for the highest end MacBook Pro you can afford, because it will have a separate graphics card.

But you are constantly going to be compromising - in terms of the choice of games, and how they run. There's nothing wrong with that. Just be aware of it going in.

[docvalentine]

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depends on what you want, the mac airbook is more work and school related imo very light very nice btw. The macbook pro is the one to own though if you want to do some gaming. I have used one for a few years here on steam. The only issue I recall is when Xcom2 came out I waited an extra week...I figured they were testing it out on windows no worries

Price wise it will cost more though and that is something to consider. A macbook with a Radeon graphics cards/SSD can handle anything. That's the rub though it will run you extra theyr'e very good though it will handle games with ease. Very very few security issues and thats just a fact. I also have 2 windows laptops with windows 10 and the security holes they have are ridiculous unbelievable to be honest, I might as well open my pc to the world. I would compare prices actually because a windows gaming rig can cost too so its not a given that a mac will cost you more. I paid for an expensive windows pc once for gaming that was worthless and got a Mac that cost less and ran better and was more secure. The ipad pro is good too use it all the time but not on anything here.

thanks for the tip dm iwas looking for an airbook thinking it might be good for the games here now that iknow better ill look for a pro thats within my budget~xo

[docvalentine]

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Doc, that iMac isn't bad but honestly, if you put in another 200 bucks you can get a brand new iMac 5K:

27-inch iMac with Retina 5K display
3.2GHz quad-core Intel Core i5, Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz
8GB 1867MHz DDR3 SDRAM - two 4GB
1TB Fusion Drive
AMD Radeon R9 M380 with 2GB video memory

This spec is 1899 on Apple's website.

The drawback ( kind of ) is the one you have on eBay is an i7 and this one is an i5 but a newer one so it would be more efficient but the i7 more power.

I don't personally think it matters in terms of which to buy based on that because the resolution and graphics card in the new one alone make it worth more than the one on eBay and that beautiful picture and graphic power is what you would want for gaming and other things, and the fact its new instead of used like the other one makes it more worth it in my opinion.

ill check it out in the macstore mb hopefully its within my budget~xo

[docvalentine]

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Mr. Balls,

I have the first edition of the iMac 5k that came out late 2014. I have 2 editions of the MacBook Pro. I have a couple of iPads, including the latest (no iPad Pro, because like you said it's for a different market), and I have every edition of the iPhone.

I'm very well aware of Apple's optimization. I'm a big believer in Apple products for any number of reasons.

However, if someone is buying a system to game on, Apple is a poor choice, unless it's for freemium games that come out first on iOS.

The iMac 5k in particular is a horrible choice, because it's going with something less than an optimal video card in terms of gaming.

But it's not worth it to me to sit here and argue about it.

docvalentiine, if you're buying a computer to game, I'll reiterate I highly recommend a PC, running windows.

If you have to get a MacBook, and you want it for games, I'd go for the highest end MacBook Pro you can afford, because it will have a separate graphics card.

But you are constantly going to be compromising - in terms of the choice of games, and how they run. There's nothing wrong with that. Just be aware of it going in.

maybe ill be able to get a better pc after paying for the macs thanks sixpress tbu~xo