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No steam games are compiled in ARM. Meaning its moot ot 'update' the client because 0% of your games will work natively
Oh and in 2-3 years all of them will stop working outright once Rosetta is killed
Why 'fix' it knowing that the platform as a whole is gonna be dead in 2 years
So your saying that Apple won't let steam on the new macs bc there sandboxes... i feel there is more detail to this thans being said. I know apple, and they are one to be greedy and sabatoage another to take the lead themselves, and if they kill off mac gaming for steam then they can open tehre doors to developer's on the apple arcade and collect all the sub profits every month.
also just bc no games are compiled in ARM yet doesn't mean that wont be...? a lot of developers out there have already made ARM version for there software, i mean windows even has a ARM version.
Im still cloudy about the whole Apple wont let steam on there M1 macs. cant see why steam cant follow the protcols for apples developer program to make it availbe for M1 and just have it downloable on the mac app store so it solves the sandbox problem. but idk.
Still hoping a dev can add there input to this conversation, love to hear what they have to say about it. knowldge is a good thing in this world to have.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7CwWhhUmy-8sDvyyA15weA
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ-hl32h5CokBhlGu95C1Xg
2-3 years? Last time Rosetta was supported for 5,5 years (2006-2011). If you haven't finished your games after that you can always keep your last supported Mac to play them after Rosetta 2 is gone in newer Mac OS. Just because it will be gone in newer Mac OS it doesn't mean it will stop working in older Mac OS.
It looks like it will be fixed in Big Sur 11.3: https://youtu.be/2_JB88bHcEY
well yeah it might be fixed for contorller suppot but this thread is specificly for the Developers to share what there plans on with getting Steam games to work with M1 Silicon macs. not so much the controllers. but this is great news that apple and steam are working together. (im kinda surpirsed by that hoenstly)
I replied to DestructoDisk who wrote "The problem is Steam controller support doesn't work inside games".
You also seem to contradict yourself. Your started the thread to ask Valve about their plans for Steam client for Apple Silicon Macs, not whether developers' games work on AS Macs. It's two different subjects. So do you have problem with the Steam client itself or do you have problem with only certain games? As I said Steam seems to work fine for many people on M1 Macs so if you have problem with some games you maybe should ask the developer of the game.
And again, this is all going to totally stop working in 2-3 years once Rosetta is killed
And again you keep spreading disinformation. You keep speculatiing instead of looking at facts. As I wrote Rosetta was supported for 5,5 years last time and nothing is indicating that it will be otherwise this time. And by that time Valve has hopefully updated Steam for Apple Silicon.
It's obvious that you're not even a Mac owner and that's the reason you spread your doomsday prophecies about the platform.
My whole comment about "spreading disinformation" and "obvious that you're not even a Mac owner" was again directed at Satoru as you can see, not you. I have even quoted him so no need to be upset.
That's a long way to write "I have no clue what I'm talking about"
Rosetta1 was only supported for that long because it took YEARS to get even basic stuff like offic and Adobe to work. That stuff all now works day 1 with M1. A person could pick up an M1 Mac and have 90% of their stuff working.
Stuff now not working on M1 is an anomoaly not the norm.
Meaning you are not going to see a 5 year window. Your stuff is all going to stop working in 2-3 years when Apple rips out rosetta
Funny that you contradict yourself. First you say that 90% of apps work on M1 on day 1 meaning that the developers are much faster to adopt Apple Silicon. Then you say ”your stuff is all going to stop working in 2-3 years because Apple won’t allow Steam on new M1 Macs”??
So if developers are more willing and faster to adopt Apple Silicon why worry that Rosetta will be gone in 2-3 years, why would ”stuff” stop working and why Apple wouldn’t suddenly allow Steam on Macs? It’s more likely, with your own logic, that Steam would soon support M1 natively too. If not that’s Valve’s fault not Apple’s.
Btw Office and Photoshop also worked from day one back in 2006 via Rosetta. Microsoft dropped PowerPC support with Office 2011, at the same time as Apple, 5,5 years later. Adobe dropped PowerPC support in Aug 2008, about 2,5 years after the launch of Intel Macs but Apple kept supporting Rosetta for another 2,5 years.
So if anyone is going to drop the support for Intel Macs and Rosetta too soon it’s the developers, not Apple. Apple supported Rosetta 2-3 years after Adobe/Microsoft dropped their support.
Steam launched for Intel Macs in 2010, 4 years after Apple’s switch to Intel, but they updated the client to 64-bit ahead of macOS 10.14, one year before Apple dropped 32- bit support. Now it’s been only 4 months since the launch of M1 so Valve still has plenty of time to update Steam before Rosetta 2 is gone.
You can also as I said before keep your Mac with the last version of Rosetta 2 and macOS for games you want to keep playing so nothing will stop working, just as many people did during last transition from PowerPC to Intel.
So come back in 2-3 years when you have facts instead of speculations and spreading doomsday prophecies. Before that we could be dead by Covid or some accident so stop worrying and enjoy your games until then.