PS4: worth it?

[MasterOfUnlocking]

Hi,

So, as we all know, the PS4 will be released in a few months. I am considering buying one, but I am not sure about it because I already own a PC and I'd only buy it if the hardware of the PS4 is at least equal or better than my PC and delivers superior framerates and graphics. My PC has the following specs: i7 2600k@4.3 Ghz; 12 GB DDR3 1600, Radeon HD 7970 3GB@1125/ 1575, 1.5 TB HD, Windows 8 64 bit. So, what do you think, is my hardware still ok or will the PS4 be better for gaming than my PC?

[ResistanceRB]

pretty sure your rig is better than a PS4, though im not good with tech specs and what they mean. i know the PS4 has eight cores, 8 gigs of some type of ram, and im not sure about gfx card. the stats are online, probably the PLaystation website. i'm getting one, mostly for BF4. you can play mp with 64 ppl unlike 24 on PS3. im sure the gfx wont match a beast PC though, but it sounds close enough to warrant me getting instead of a whole new PC, especially for 400 dollars ( plus PS Plus subscription to play mp online :(

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Your PC will blow PS4 away and probably lasts around 3 more years without real need to upgrade.

[ResistanceRB]

Rumpelcrutchskin původně napsal:

Your PC will blow PS4 away and probably lasts around 3 more years without real need to upgrade.

That's what i though but i wasnt sure. if i had the money i would get a decent PC gaming rig and not a PS4. PS4 is not backwards compatible either :(

[MasterOfUnlocking]

Well, I guess then I'll at least wait until I buy a console. This time I don't want to believe all the hype like I did when the PS3 came out when Sony was telling people that now all games would suddenly have photorealistic graphics thanks to the all-powerful Cell :)

[MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™]

Save the money for pc hardware upgrade, The ps4 will beat low end pc's for a while yes, but that won't last long.

And yea, cell ps3 tech demos....every generation of consoles has the same lie lol

[Flinty94]

Of course it's worth it, it's PlayStation. It's going to be awesome and I'm excited about receiving mine in a few weeks :-D

[Funeral Under Moonlight]

No, upgrade your PC instead.

[intok]

PS4 is a more powerful console then the XBO and there is no massive backlash against it so it will likely sell far better and thus have more decent exclusive games available for it.

Though PC gaming has been much cheaper due to shops like Steam, Desura, GOG and the rest.

What the PS4 may be great for is as a render node if you can make use of all of the hardware in Linux, the GPU is basically an HD7950m paired up with 8GB of GDDR5 shared with an 8 core CPU. Optimization will keep it graphically competitive for a little while.

What is good for Radeon GPU users is that since the PS4, XBO and WiiU all use Radeon GPUs PC game companies would be quite dumb to sign up to Nvidia's "The Way It's Meant To Be Played" Nvidia only optimization on the PC side and since in the case of the PS4 and XBO are X86-64 based and as suck ports between them and PC will be much easier for them and it shouldn't be as bad as the current state of console ports.

[Laptop]

Bring GTA5 to PC and PC remains the superior 'console'.

[ResistanceRB]

a beast PC is the real gaming machine, despite what console ppl say(i won a PS3 and am getting a PS4) but if i had enough money id get a PC

[MasterOfUnlocking]

To me the PS4 seems to be some sort of PC, I mean, it uses PC system architecture (x86) and modified budget PC parts (modified and customized AMD netbook CPU+ modified middle range graphics chip).
They are a lot weaker and with a lot less raw processing power than the parts you'll find in a middle to high range gaming PC but I think they'll get a lot more out of it than one would imagine simply by optimizing the hell out of the games. They'll all run on the same hardware after all. By the way, in my opinion the PS4s biggest asset are the 8 GB ram, not the processors. 8 GB is a lot for a console.

[ResistanceRB]

i also agree with above poster. 8 gigs is alot and for example BF4 will have 64 ppl on a server like the PC.

[Dellicious]

Yes the PS4 is worth it.

Also the PS4 doesn't have bad mods who ban you from PSN

[MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™]

intok původně napsal:

PS4 is a more powerful console then the XBO and there is no massive backlash against it so it will likely sell far better and thus have more decent exclusive games available for it.

Though PC gaming has been much cheaper due to shops like Steam, Desura, GOG and the rest.

What the PS4 may be great for is as a render node if you can make use of all of the hardware in Linux, the GPU is basically an HD7950m paired up with 8GB of GDDR5 shared with an 8 core CPU. Optimization will keep it graphically competitive for a little while.

What is good for Radeon GPU users is that since the PS4, XBO and WiiU all use Radeon GPUs PC game companies would be quite dumb to sign up to Nvidia's "The Way It's Meant To Be Played" Nvidia only optimization on the PC side and since in the case of the PS4 and XBO are X86-64 based and as suck ports between them and PC will be much easier for them and it shouldn't be as bad as the current state of console ports.

"backlash" exists only amoungst the most vocal die hards in a internet echo chamber.

Sony and linux, well, remember the ps3, and no, theres no point in buying it as a renderer when already you can get more powerful gpu's and cpu's today, the promise of the ps3 as a "super computer" sorta didn't pan out, everyone just still went with the x86 giant render farm model.

SedulousMiscreant původně napsal:

To me the PS4 seems to be some sort of PC, I mean, it uses PC system architecture (x86) and modified budget PC parts (modified and customized AMD netbook CPU+ modified middle range graphics chip).
They are a lot weaker and with a lot less raw processing power than the parts you'll find in a middle to high range gaming PC but I think they'll get a lot more out of it than one would imagine simply by optimizing the hell out of the games. They'll all run on the same hardware after all. By the way, in my opinion the PS4s biggest asset are the 8 GB ram, not the processors. 8 GB is a lot for a console.

Its a lot for now, but that happens with every console, in a few years it will look like nothing. What pc's were people using 7 years ago? The current consoles have 512mb ram, well that was basically what a budget pc had back then http://www.pcworld.com/article/127985/article.html Now you can buy 16+ for almost nothing, in a few years the gap will just increase. Biggest thing for pc's was the ssd, but console can't afford that kind of performance boost.

[intok]

ResistanceShane původně napsal:

i also agree with above poster. 8 gigs is alot and for example BF4 will have 64 ppl on a server like the PC.

It's not just that it's 8Gb of ram, it's 8GB of GDDR5 video ram, but it's using AMD's new HSA architecture so that the CPU shares the GPU's ram pool.

AMD's Kaveri series APUs will be using it on the desktop. What it does it removes the limitations of the standard DDR3 ram for the APU as well as the latency limitations of the PCI bus.

So what does it mean? GPU based physics and AI calculations! They'll be far faster then even sending it from an i7 Haswell to an HD7970 since it doesn't have to be copied back and fourth between the system ram to the GPU ram processing and get sent back to the CPU to be added back to the game engine data then that data sent to the GPU to be drawn on the screen.