Who was worse: Adolph Hitler or Joseph Stalin?

[DevNSS]

Well this is a thing that has been at the back of my mind for a while as an example of the far-reaching effects of politics.....so I question YOU! Who was worse, Joseph Stalin or Adolph Hitler?

[Soully]

AGH! I sooooo need to fix my hand now...

[Lily]

Blood Mane eredeti hozzászólása:

These four schools Determine the basic paradigms of the Marxist beliefs (Take note the above graph is but a light overview, There is much too explain, But these pages Are too small for that).

Oh no, please do explain the Marxian nature of the NSDAP.

I may think that Marx was a jerk, but you don't see me misinterpreting minor propaganda brochures (as that is what the Manifesto was - you wanna understand Marxism, read das Kapital), and claiming Marx was personally responsible for everything bad that happened since 1848.

edit: what the heck, brochure is censored? Fine, I'll just say "pamphlet" instead.

[DevNSS]

you excell my expectation, bloodmane!!!! good job!

[Soully]

He isn't personally bad for everything, moreso the tyrants are theproblem. HE just wrote the basic outline of what Socialism is.

The NSDAP believed in doing what The other socialists did, More government control over markets, One true governor, The powerful state, et-cetera. They just believed in doing it in a different way then the Keynesian or Fascist.

[Soully]

Gustave5436 eredeti hozzászólása:

Blood Mane eredeti hozzászólása:

These four schools Determine the basic paradigms of the Marxist beliefs (Take note the above graph is but a light overview, There is much too explain, But these pages Are too small for that).

Oh no, please do explain the Marxian nature of the NSDAP.

I may think that Marx was a jerk, but you don't see me misinterpreting minor propaganda brochures (as that is what the Manifesto was - you wanna understand Marxism, read das Kapital), and claiming Marx was personally responsible for everything bad that happened since 1848.

edit: what the heck, brochure is censored? Fine, I'll just say "pamphlet" instead.

Yeah, you do that XD

[Lily]

Blood Mane eredeti hozzászólása:

He isn't personally bad for everything, moreso the tyrants are theproblem. HE just wrote the basic outline of what Socialism is.

The Communist Manifesto is not the basic outline of what socialism is, Marx did not invent socialism, and socialism is not equivalent to Marxism-Leninism.

The NSDAP believed in doing what The other socialists did, More government control over markets, One true governor, The powerful state, et-cetera. They just believed in doing it in a different way then the Keynesian or Fascist.

If your analysis of socialism involves calling capitalist economists like John Meynard Keynes, and militant anti-communists like Benito Mussolini and Adolf Hitler Marxian, that should be a pretty glaring clue that you've no idea what you're talking about.

The NSDAP as founded was a sort of combination of economically populist ideas with far-right racial extremism, but that was thrown out completely when Hitler took over the party (which at the time had members in the low triple digits) and turned it into a middle-class party run by major business interests. In fact, the remnant of the original "leftist" wing of the party was brutally purged in the night of the long knives.

[Soully]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff4isNVjO0o

I have proof for my point, Would you mind showing yours?

[DevNSS]

it's Hungarian, right?

[Soully]

English with Hungarian subs.

[DevNSS]

nevermind, it's polish! And no way in hell I'm watching that fully! :D Why don't you give it a crack, hater of Blood Mane!