Thoughts on AI being used for film remasters?

[Falco]

I've noticed lately, that various classic films have been restored and remastered using AI technology.

I get that AI is probably the next new tech wave, but at the same time, at it's current state, I feel like it's rather half-baked, and when you view some of these AI scans of classic films, they always feel so liminal, like something in the uncanny valley, or as if this whole movie was AI generated (which in a way it is) instead of a legitimate film.

This video does a good job explaining it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxOqWYytypg


Anyways, what's your opinion on it?

[Jenkem Junkie]

The only reason it's popular is because investment firms have become enamored with the idea and tech businesses refuse to elaborate to them on what they actually are, how they work, and what they're using them for. It's an economic bubble that'll eventually burst and leave a bunch of tech businesses filing for bankruptcy.

[Tristin]

AI remaster often do not care about fine details. At the moment, at least. Considering the amount of context images have, it can be very difficult. It first needs to understand what it is trying to remaster in the image. Often even humans don't understand what they're seeing, so you can't expect such perfection from AI, which human codes into detect certain details.

For great improvement of overall image qualities, small detail loss could be excused, to make it a watchable resolution. But, not something to completely remove the old film. Rather to just watch temporarily. If it cannot maintain 100% detail of the images, it shouldn't be used as a permanent solution.

AI will get there, some day.

[Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at 🃏]

This usage makes a lot of sense for specific circumstances in video game rendering, but it doesn't work as reliably with film.

Someone seems to have taken the way it works with games and thought that was a good idea without understanding why it works so flawlessly in specific circumstances with video games, which follow strict rules and limitations as to what textures are used and how they're rendered.

ie. Another example of someone understanding that the technology is useful, sort of understanding how it is useful, but then missing some important detail and using it in a way that doesn't actually fulfill the goal or offer any quality improvement.

If you don't understand how a tool works or affects the quality of your work, then you probably shouldn't be using it.

Originally posted by Jenkem Junkie:

The only reason it's popular is because investment firms have become enamored with the idea and tech businesses refuse to elaborate to them on what they actually are, how they work, and what they're using them for. It's an economic bubble that'll eventually burst and leave a bunch of tech businesses filing for bankruptcy.

There are A.I. tech businesses and then A.I. "tech businesses".
One of these classifications is legit, and one of them is just a scam.

It's the scams that will go out of business and be filing bankruptcy and I'm struggling to see why it's such a bad thing if a scammer goes out of business.

[L1qu1dator]

I don't know about remasters, but I'd totally watch this movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTSDIP2jiqY

[talemore]

AI been semi-used in the past as long CGI been around

[Mina]

No

[salamander]

id rather ai not be used in any art mediums

[unskilled-]

Hollyweird getting really lazy with their money laundering schemes, lol.

[MancSoulja]

AI doesn't exist yet, LLMs aren't remastering movies... they're using algorithms and machine learning to remaster movies and calling it AI to be cool.

[Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at 🃏]

Originally posted by MancSoulja:

AI doesn't exist yet, LLMs aren't remastering movies... they're using algorithms and machine learning to remaster movies and calling it AI to be cool.

This is like saying that the temporal lobe doesn't count as brain, and people with only temporal lobe don't have a brain. Like... it's not a whole brain, sure... but it is still brain.

Now, if you have temporal lobe operating without any other parts of brain, their aren't going to be a lot of smart decisions going on and the behavior will be very similar to an LLM but it's still brain-matter that produces the behaviors of the temporal lobe.

LLMs are indeed not remastering movies but the reason it's being called AI isn't "to be cool".
If anything calling it a "remaster" when it's frankly not because it demonstrates no mastery at all and has plenty of things to criticize, is the part that's supposed "to be cool". (And it's not cool.)

Originally posted by L1qu1dator:

I don't know about remasters, but I'd totally watch this movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTSDIP2jiqY

I'd probably buy Baldur's Gate 3 after watching that movie.

[76561199237092713]

yeah my take on AI is that it giving rich pricks that ALREADY HAVE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT TEAMS, A TOOL TO GET RID OF HIS STAFF....AI should only be accessible to the poor to level the playing ground..

[76561199237092713]

Originally posted by Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at 🃏:

Originally posted by FIXYOURSYSTEM:

yeah my take on AI is that it giving rich pricks that ALREADY HAVE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT TEAMS, A TOOL TO GET RID OF HIS STAFF....AI should only be accessible to the poor to level the playing ground..

I don't expect it to be good for production and sustainability in big companies to replace whole brains with what is essentially just a temporal lobe.

This is why an airline lost a lawsuit for using a LLM as a customer support agent, and the LLM, acting as an employed agent representing the company, promised the customer a discount that was not initially honored.

There were also some lawyers that got into hot water with the judge / bar after using an LLM as a paralegal.

These systems are very capable but anyone who uses them to replace a whole person in their current stage of development, is making a stupid mistake.

truth is we cannot deny llm's are getting extremely powerful as ram and nodes increase.
there needs to be a point where it really stops.

to give you a idea, a llm is trained apon tons of human data.. so a ai that learns to copy itself learned that where? and there have been cases already.

humans value life and machines see that value too because their based on us.

[Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at 🃏]

Originally posted by FIXYOURSYSTEM:

...
humans value life and machines see that value too because their based on us.

You probably need to watch this if you actually believe that :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEUO6pjwFOo
Highlight :

Originally posted by Robert Miles, "Orthogonality Thesis" video - 10:00:

There's a difference between figuring out and understanding human morality and actually wanting to act according to it.

Even different humans have different values so people like killers and narcissists are good examples for this concept too. Like, exactly how good do you have to be at admiring your own reflection or killing people before you stop caring about that and start caring about something else entirely like feeding the hungry? It's just not going to happen.

[L1qu1dator]

Originally posted by Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at 🃏:

Originally posted by L1qu1dator:

I don't know about remasters, but I'd totally watch this movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTSDIP2jiqY

I'd probably buy Baldur's Gate 3 after watching that movie.

Same, if I wouldn't already have it.

[The Commendatore]

I'm so over this A.I. thing. Can the world be infatuated with something else this year?