Poverty in the UK after Brexit

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Arvaos Feb 18 @ 4:46am

Poverty in the UK after Brexit

1 in 3 children are in poverty in the UK after Brexit. Will the UK collapse if they don't have enough immigrants to fill the jobs?

Spain’s economy expanded by 3.2% last year. This far outpaced other European nations.

The UK struggles after Brexit with job shortages and an ageing population, Spain has embraced immigration and surged.

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Originally posted by Space is the Place:

Originally posted by Arvaos:
Spain’s economy expanded by 3.2% last year. This far outpaced other European nations.

Migration, both from Africa which has increase since italy close the sea routes and South America from families that migrated there during Francisco Franco´s dictatorship and some generations after are using that heritage to ask for spanish citizen.

Tourism, we just excel at it, even if I don´t think it´s the best economical motor, it works.

Weather, you can´t beat it in the continent, period.

Socialist goverments, even when the right rules the population keeping them in check, Spain doesn´t abbandon it´s citizens, the minimun salary has being raised 400€ during this past 5 years (first 4 year ruling by the socialist, then currently the first year of their second mandate) to combat the increase in prices, they taxed energy companies during covid and forced them to lower pirces so people wouldn´t lose economic power when they were not working, changed labor laws so that companies cannot fire employees so easily, they are currently checking on making new laws to protect the right of people to buy houses with the current housing crisis and allow each autonomous comunity to implement the measures they see neccesary with this goal... Overall, our current goverment cares for the population, despite all the fake news around them and attemps from the right to divert the attention into their own conspiracies.

We are not only doing good, but we are gonna continue growing. And our importance on the EU parlament has increase massively, not just because our current president it´s fluid with english and has good relationships with other EU presidents/prime ministers, but also to be honest since the Uk left it´s clear France and Germany alone can´t decide for everyone else, besides they wanted someone to oppose Italy, and Sanchez and Meloni are... well they don´t like each other, with Meloni representing the current far-right most powerful on the parlament, it only made sense to have Sanchez whom is the most center-left (let´s be frank, no real left in EU parlament, just look at France now, some EU countries have very marginalized left parties that not even when they win can they rule cause someone at the top will stop them; only us Spaniards after two historical socialist republics and Portugueses can enjoy some true left ideals, even if they are just socialist democrats, it´s something).

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salamander Feb 18 @ 4:53am

collapse, probably not. but i am guessing that there will be a lot more struggle ahead for the people of the uk, unfortunately.

JD Feb 18 @ 4:56am

Originally posted by Arvaos:
1 in 3 children are in poverty in the UK after Brexit.

Sad. This is the result of fatherless homes.

eram Feb 18 @ 4:59am

no

feel very sorry for Spain, so poor everyone about perish
if only the real world matched the absolute nonsense you post daily.

Last edited by eram; Feb 18 @ 5:00am

joco Feb 18 @ 5:05am

Originally posted by Arvaos:
1 in 3 children are in poverty in the UK after Brexit. Will the UK collapse if they don't have enough immigrants to fill the jobs?

Spain’s economy expanded by 3.2% last year. This far outpaced other European nations.

The UK struggles after Brexit with job shortages and an ageing population, Spain has embraced immigration and surged.

Nonsense.

Phénomènes Mystiques Feb 18 @ 5:19am

There is no country in this world that uses Social Calculus for Immigration issues and reform, this is the real problem, dullards in power of governments.

Immortalis Feb 18 @ 5:22am

Per MacroTrends, the poverty rate in the UK has remained absolutely stable for the past 20+ years
https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/GBR/united-kingdom/poverty-rate

It should be noted at this point that the measurement to determine child poverty is:
"If the child in question lives in a household with an income lower than 60% of the median", with relative low income using the current year as a benchmark and absolute low income using a standard year as a benchmark, to avoid references to temporary disruptions and anomalies.

That being said, per https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/child-poverty-statistics-causes-and-the-uks-policy-response/

In a December 2023 report, the UN children’s agency UNICEF scored the UK against 42 high income and upper middle-income peer countries on the outcomes of policy responses to child poverty.[8] It placed the UK, along with France, Türkiye and Colombia, at the “bottom of the rankings” based on two indicators: rates of child income poverty between 2019 and 2021 and the proportional change in child income poverty over a seven-year period (2012–2014 and 2019–2021).[9] A summary of the report’s contents explained:

Overall, OECD countries experienced a period of prosperity in recent years. This period started in the aftermath of the global recession of about 2008–2010 and ended, for many countries, between 2019–2021, with the economic repercussions of the Covid-19 pandemic and the war in Ukraine. From 2012 to 2019, general prosperity presented countries with a golden opportunity to address child poverty. Some countries seized this opportunity, while others let it pass.

Poland, for example, reduced child poverty by 38%. Slovenia, Latvia and Lithuania reduced it by more than 30%. In contrast, five countries—France, Iceland, Norway, Switzerland and the United Kingdom—saw increases in poverty of at least 10%. For the United Kingdom, the increase was 20%."

As usual Arvaos and his handlers pick a random stat, look at nothing but what they want to see and make a thing out of absolute nothing.

The reason why child poverty is increasing is not due to Brexit; it is mainly due to Covid-19 and the war in Ukraine and the consequences of those two events.
Case in point France - who notoriously didn't leave the EU - is experiencing the same exact thing.

And just FYI, the issue with child poverty is not that the households have no income or the parents have no job.
It's that their income falls below the 60% of the median of a given year.
And importing immigrants will do precisely nothing to solve the issue because the point is not that there are more job openings than people wanting to do their job.

But of course, disregard the rule of law and import people with no desire to assimilate is the ABC of Arvaos and his ilk so it must be the solution, right?

eram Feb 18 @ 5:25am

op wont come back to post an apology for posting fake news. as usual.

De Hollandse Ezel Feb 18 @ 5:29am

the issue was not brexit.. i still want a nexit for my nation.

the issue for uk was a hard exit (so no staying in shengen as nations like norway and swiss do)

but far more tham that.. an ultraright goverment of ultra austerity.. privatising everything cutting all wellfare and spending.. thats how you cripple an economy....

if your economy goes bad.. you increase goverment spending.. if good you decrease it..
uk has done the exact opposite.. thus given itself a willfull headshot.

Last edited by De Hollandse Ezel; Feb 18 @ 5:31am

eram Feb 18 @ 5:34am

Originally posted by De Hollandse Ezel:
the issue was not brexit.. i still want a nexit for my nation.

the issue for uk was a hard exit (so no staying in shengen as nations like norway and swiss do)

but far more tham that.. an ultraright goverment of ultra austerity.. privatising everything cutting all wellfare and spending.. thats how you cripple an economy....

if your economy goes bad.. you increase goverment spending.. if good you decrease it..
uk has done the exact opposite.. thus given itself a willfull headshot.

Netherlands is really nice shame you voted in the racist party.

Arvaos Feb 18 @ 5:52am

Originally posted by joco:
Originally posted by Arvaos:
1 in 3 children are in poverty in the UK after Brexit. Will the UK collapse if they don't have enough immigrants to fill the jobs?

Spain’s economy expanded by 3.2% last year. This far outpaced other European nations.

The UK struggles after Brexit with job shortages and an ageing population, Spain has embraced immigration and surged.
Nonsense.

These are official figures?

https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/spains-economy-outperforms-eurozone-2024-with-32-growth-2025-01-29/

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eram Feb 18 @ 5:55am

Originally posted by Arvaos:
Originally posted by joco:
Nonsense.

These are official figures?

https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/spains-economy-outperforms-eurozone-2024-with-32-growth-2025-01-29/

yes its official, you personally must donate bread to poor Spanish kids, all of them.

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eram Feb 18 @ 5:57am

Originally posted by Outcast82:
Originally posted by eram:
Netherlands is really nice shame you voted in the racist party.

nothing racist bout.

i voted sgp.. . another party..
but shame there were not more who did.
we need to bring that 30% migrant number back to 5% and stop bringing new ones in.

native dutch are projected to become a minority in our own country in 2050-2060..
in 1960 our country still was 99.99 native dutch..

this is like what they did no native americans.. replacement..
and to frame it racist to not want to go extinct in the place that been your peoples for thoudands of years.. is wrong too.

with the whole lgbtq laws our nation is also going ever more insane and in the crapper i like it more before gay mariage was legalised in 2002.. when tje nation still had some common sense..

netherland was a real nice nation.. but the real dutch culture & people as it was until only a few decades ago.. is in decline.

ever year i see my nation getting ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ .. more woke.. more migrants more power to eu. and less christian.. and less and less dutch language and traditions songs and heroes.. upheld and more foreign ones

it may be a longshot... but we need parties like "that racist party" to help to prevent day i be the last of the real dutch..

Netherlands needs 30% not 5%, real Dutch are the 30% not the 5%

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SpeedFreak1972 Feb 18 @ 6:02am

Originally posted by Outcast82:
Originally posted by eram:
Netherlands is really nice shame you voted in the racist party.

nothing racist bout.

i voted sgp.. . another party..
but shame there were not more who did.
we need to bring that 30% migrant number back to 5% and stop bringing new ones in.

native dutch are projected to become a minority in our own country in 2050-2060..
in 1960 our country still was 99.99 native dutch..

this is like what they did no native americans.. replacement..
and to frame it racist to not want to go extinct in the place that been your peoples for thoudands of years.. is wrong too.

with the whole lgbtq laws our nation is also going ever more insane and in the crapper i like it more before gay mariage was legalised in 2002.. when tje nation still had some common sense..

netherland was a real nice nation.. but the real dutch culture & people as it was until only a few decades ago.. is in decline.

ever year i see my nation getting ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ .. more woke.. more migrants more power to eu. and less christian.. and less and less dutch language and traditions songs and heroes.. upheld and more foreign ones

Yea I know what you mean I'm Dutch, but living in Belgium since 25 years or so ... tbh not keen on returning although my remaining family want me to return.

I'm regularly in NL and I don't feel at home anymore.

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