mutexin 2 月 16 日 下午 11:28
Would USA be able to save Europe from fascism again?
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The 3 Whites 2 月 17 日 下午 8:08 
引用自 Triple G
引用自 The 3 Whites
thats total wrong, google weimar fellacy
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cXv5rnh0j0I
I rather recommend to google the laws in the weimar republic, and how they would be enforced.

And of course it´s always the same thing. People have little money, or problems to afford life, and then there comes one guy who provides simple solutions, and make the foreigners (or migrants as we call them nowadays), or any other minority group responsible for it. There: the Jews.

the people didnt vote for him because of his views about the jews.
https://wp-media.patheos.com/blogs/sites/186/2017/05/Adolf_Hitler_Ich_bin_Sozialist_Monument_for_the_German_Labour_Front_Deutsche_Arbeitsfront_DAF_1935.jpg

https://youtu.be/FJ3N_2r6R-o?feature=shared

I think he even didnt blame the jews in public speeches before he came to power
最後修改者:The 3 Whites; 2 月 17 日 下午 8:24
Triple G 2 月 17 日 下午 8:28 
引用自 The 3 Whites
I think he even didnt blame the jews in public before he came to power
What? He wrote a book and all that... Even the agenda of the party had it written into it. Like Jews can´t be Germans...

And of course people didn´t vote for him because of his views on the Jews alone, but as it´s usually the case, people start to believe that certain people are a big problem, if certain people repeat that often enough. They voted for him because he said he wants to make Germany great again of course.
最後修改者:Triple G; 2 月 17 日 下午 8:28
pants 2 月 17 日 下午 8:31 
引用自 The 3 Whites
引用自 Triple G
I rather recommend to google the laws in the weimar republic, and how they would be enforced.

And of course it´s always the same thing. People have little money, or problems to afford life, and then there comes one guy who provides simple solutions, and make the foreigners (or migrants as we call them nowadays), or any other minority group responsible for it. There: the Jews.

the people didnt vote for him because of his views about the jews.
https://wp-media.patheos.com/blogs/sites/186/2017/05/Adolf_Hitler_Ich_bin_Sozialist_Monument_for_the_German_Labour_Front_Deutsche_Arbeitsfront_DAF_1935.jpg

https://youtu.be/FJ3N_2r6R-o?feature=shared

I think he even didnt blame the jews in public before he came to power
"...there can be no compromise - there are only two possibilities: either victory of the Aryan, or annihilation of the Aryan and the victory of the Jew." - Adolf Hitler, 12 April 1922, in a speech, in public, in Munich

or in short, oh he very much did but a lot of people just ignored it (even Jews, under the assumption that he wouldn't dare remove their constitutional protections if he got into power)

edit: efb in a sense :D
最後修改者:pants; 2 月 17 日 下午 8:32
The 3 Whites 2 月 17 日 下午 8:55 
引用自 Triple G
引用自 The 3 Whites
I think he even didnt blame the jews in public before he came to power
What? He wrote a book and all that... Even the agenda of the party had it written into it. Like Jews can´t be Germans...

probably people never read it. like the quoran.

and all political parties have parts people like or dislike or people think its more or less important.
i dont belive the voters was thinking, "oh cool jews can't be germans i vote hitler"
there was around 150.000 jews in germany at that time. people had other priorities than jews.
the people was probably thinking "im not a jew, i dont care about that program point"
最後修改者:The 3 Whites; 2 月 17 日 下午 9:00
Triple G 2 月 17 日 下午 9:15 
引用自 The 3 Whites
probably people never read it. like the quoran.

and all political parties have parts people like or dislike or people think its more or less important.
i dont belive the voters was thinking, "oh cool jews can't be germans i vote hitler"
there was around 150.000 jews in germany at that time. people had other priorities than jews.
the people was probably thinking "im not a jew, i dont care about that program point"
The whole party and movement was about racism against the Jews - just like certain parties nowadays are all against migration. With the difference that parties nowadays wouldn´t promote to erase the others from the planet, as it doesn´t sell too well.

Like it´s not only about the Jews living in Germany, when they make a "global Jewish elite" responsible for the economical situation in Germany.

Also it´s different in the way he promoted the party depending on where he acted. Like it´s been a Southern Germany thing, and the farmers and village people in Bavaria are a bit different from the workers in the big cities in Western Germany - so for the latter they added some of the workers party talking points.

Like if You would care for Jewish people, and equality among the people - You wouldn´t vote for the Nazi party. In fact they never got a majority to begin with. They needed to do a coalition with another party to get the majority - to then enable to change some things and implement him as the dictator. They got like 40% of the votes.

Also around 560k Jewish people lived in Germany at 1933. By 1950 it were 15k people.
最後修改者:Triple G; 2 月 17 日 下午 9:28
The 3 Whites 2 月 17 日 下午 9:39 
引用自 Triple G
They needed to do a coalition with another party to get the majority - to then enable to change some things and implement him as the dictator. They got like 40% of the votes.

with free speech 60% could had called hitler a dumb ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ at that time
without free speech 60% cant
think about that
free speech didnt brought hitler into power
最後修改者:The 3 Whites; 2 月 17 日 下午 9:41
Triple G 2 月 17 日 下午 10:01 
引用自 The 3 Whites
with free speech 60% could had called hitler a dumb ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ at that time
without free speech 60% cant
think about that
free speech didnt brought hitler into power
Unhinged free speech makes it so that You can unite the people in their hate towards another group. Which is way easier than to unite the people because You have good solutions, and analyze the problems neutrally.

Think about that.

Also probably 60% of the US Americans call Trump dumb - it doesn´t matter for the elections though, as some of them would vote against him, and some would not vote at all. Like this is child´s talk, as nobody else would take such insults seriously - and it doesn´t change anything.
The 3 Whites 2 月 17 日 下午 10:23 
引用自 Triple G
Unhinged free speech makes it so that You can unite the people in their hate towards another group. Which is way easier than to unite the people because You have good solutions, and analyze the problems neutrally.

and now we circling. people didnt vote him for the hate of jews. Do you think austria welcomed him with open arms and flowers because he hated jews ?
最後修改者:The 3 Whites; 2 月 17 日 下午 10:24
Talby 2 月 17 日 下午 10:33 
I thought they voted for him because he literally killed off his opposition during "The Night of the Long knives" campaign...
Triple G 2 月 17 日 下午 10:42 
引用自 The 3 Whites
and now we circling. people didnt vote him for the hate of jews. Do you think austria welcomed him with open arms and flowers because he hated jews ?
I said above that they mainly voted for him, because he said that he will make Germany great again. But the racism is part of the deal. And those others, who called him idiot or incompetent - just underestimated him. Free speech isn´t dangerous, when You insult people. Free speech is dangerous for some guy, if You can explain why something is wrong or false. And free speech is dangerous, when it allows people to spread false or fake news. Or to promise things, which are never meant to be realized.

Austria didn´t welcome him, they expelled him first, which is why he didn´t have a citizenship. In 1932 he got the German citizenship, which enabled him to become chancellor to begin with. And it didn´t matter that he wanted to take the government by force already in 1923. It´s of course different when he´s "the" guy in Germany, which can do the great Germany deal, which includes Austria. In 1871 Germany was founded as the small solution without it, because Austria wanted to keep their own emperor, and the Germans didn´t want the Hungarian and Italian parts of Austria - or rather Austria-Hungary.
mutexin 2 月 17 日 下午 11:02 
引用自 The 3 Whites
引用自 Voroff
EVERY NON-US IN THIS TOPIC SAID THE SAME THING.
Repeat after me : "I, US citizen, recognize living in a fascist police state".

In what fascist police state is everybody allowed to own a gun ?
Israel.
Oneeyed 2 月 18 日 上午 1:15 
引用自 mutexin
引用自 The 3 Whites

In what fascist police state is everybody allowed to own a gun ?
Israel.

Well if Israel is so fascist in your mind apparently you and your country needs some more religious zealots from the middle-east so you can evaluate your mindset by living with them.

Now think about how your country would look like if all the surround countries are full of religious nuts who spread their believes with knives, guns and explosives. Regularly there are missle attacks since 50 years.

You are already radicalized because of a few knive attacks in your country but then you think its fascist if you wannna get rid of the terror once and for all.
Voroff 2 月 18 日 上午 1:45 
引用自 Chunk Norris ☯
As for far-right, that's the bait and switch of the left-wing woke religion. Mussolini's fascism isn't Donald Trump's policies, it's left-wing policies of socialism/communism. But by European standard it was "right-wing" or so they claim, but by American standards it's a left-wingers dream policy.
Ho, i kinda forgot to answer that point : it's not "just the europeeans". The whole world states and thinks that the nzais and sascists are right wing. Only in the USA there is that confusion. Maybe it's because it's an US "exceptionnalism", maybe because you peeps can't use the proper definitions of words because you're so uneducated ya'all have deep troubles with reading comprehension, maybe because your political parties are stupid AND the politicians do not know how to argue thus ressort to saying "the other side is bad, m'kay, because i'm saying it".

But my personnal theory is that because you are yourself right wing but you know the world hates Nazis you ry to distanciate from them by "sending them to the other side of the political spectrum", after all there is already something you all do not like, as communism and the Red Scare, maccarthysm n'all, so you put all in one silly bag put a bow on it and hopes to never be asked about that. You hope to whitewash yourselfs about the bad things you're doing. This was not a fast process, it was more like the frog in the water slowly boiling.

Thing is, when you try and encroach on other nations that are not using that brainrot, cracks appears and the others are calling you on that. You should try to NOT encroach on others, like Vance did (that effing mofo) or in this very topic where you wanna "liberate the free speech of euros" - and claim to higher moral ground when you launching wars every time you can to plunder the ressources of others like oil, and guarding them with merc companies.like it happenend in Iraq or the water for cocacola plants.



Seriously, go ask an indian for the Indian subcontinent, or an euro from western Europe, a russian, a chinese, a japanese, an african from anywhere in africa, anyone but an US, and you'll get the same response.



Fix the problems in your own country before trying to piss off the canadians and mexicans and now the EU citizens. That begin with reading comprehension, like "the trade deficit is unfair !" when the fault is not on Canada but on you only : you overspent, you're unable to balance it yourself not only with Canada, but with the trade you're doing with all other countries combined (one could have balance the deficit coming from trade with Canada with the trade done with 3 other countries easily). You overspend, and now you are saying it's unfair (wich is CHILDISH :D) and on top of that you are shifting the blame and blaming the victim.

But what to excpect for abysmally educated folks. You are the threat to the world since the ... ... well, a long time, and you never stopped. Now you're threatening your allies AND europe. Go kick rocks. Go pond sand. Corner time. Naff off.
Voroff 2 月 18 日 上午 1:53 
引用自 Oneeyed
引用自 mutexin
Israel.

Well if Israel is so fascist in your mind apparently you and your country needs some more religious zealots from the middle-east so you can evaluate your mindset by living with them.

Now think about how your country would look like if all the surround countries are full of religious nuts who spread their believes with knives, guns and explosives. Regularly there are missle attacks since 50 years.

You are already radicalized because of a few knive attacks in your country but then you think its fascist if you wannna get rid of the terror once and for all.
Israel is an ethnostate that revels in apartheid, they ignored all and every "two-state solutions" and make the life of palestiians miserable to impossible, stealing land that was not theirs, repressing protests with soldiers. At one moment the anger on the other side brewed so much it exploded. Self-inflicted wounds.
Had they managed to cohabit the land in peace, had they did what needed to be done to soothe the Nakba over the years, there would be no suicide bombers.

The trope is "a palestinian child throw a stone, an israeli tank fire back".

Gaza was an open air prison. For 50+ years. Try to life in those conditions the palestinians had, we will see how you fare on the "anger" side of things.
mutexin 2 月 18 日 上午 3:47 
引用自 Oneeyed
引用自 mutexin
Israel.

Well if Israel is so fascist in your mind apparently you and your country needs some more religious zealots from the middle-east so you can evaluate your mindset by living with them.

Now think about how your country would look like if all the surround countries are full of religious nuts who spread their believes with knives, guns and explosives. Regularly there are missle attacks since 50 years.

You are already radicalized because of a few knive attacks in your country but then you think its fascist if you wannna get rid of the terror once and for all.

Do you realise your hypocrisy? It's OUR business what we do in our country, and it's THEIR business what they do in their country. Palestine is their land. You say they should come to OUR country and replace our order with theirs. No, thanks. That's exactly what Israel does! They should stay in their own homeland, and not flee to us from the Israeli genocide. We don't care if they're backwards as long everyone minds his own business.
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