Arrogance and aloofness in Slavic culture.

[Zeno]

Arrogance and aloofness in Slavic culture.

Basically, I have met so many people from Ukraine, Russia, Belarus, Poland, Moldova and so on and on, who in their home countries weren't particularly rich or wealthy, in fact most of them were quite poor due to the terribly low salary in those countries.

I noticed that almost all of them who either had a little bit of success or even managed to become wealthy abroad, mostly by getting heavily supported by my government, then completely " evolved or rather devolved " into super arrogant and greedy kind of people who think they are above everyone else, just because they can now afford an old BMW or buy themselves an iPhone.

Being married to a slavic woman myself, I am well aware of this kind of mentality and noticed this a hell a lot.

My point is, how is this contributing to anything positive ? Most people in my country or in fact most western european countires who do have some money, don't go around bragging about it in such excessive manner while in slavic cultural circles it seems to be " normal " and good to show off the coin you own, whenever and wherever you can.

If you are slavic and act like this or plan to act like this in future, let me tell you that NO ONE over here is impressed by that nor will like you because of that. Being an arrogant, greedy Mr. Richby isn't particularly a likeable character trait.

And that being said, what you call wealth and success, most people in the west call average at best.


The reason I brought this topic up is because I have noticed that quite some Ukrainian refugees over here in my country, receive money from the government and tons of support, but act all rich and mighty as they are some sort of royals who are above everyone else, including the German people. I have noticed the same with Russians that come here as well.

Don't act like this, this only causes problems and you get dislike from western people, which in return might have negative effects on the war efforts of your country, if you are from Ukraine.

Lets act like good guests and behave respectful and humble and not take tax payers money for years and then smile into their face while going shopping at 10 am on a monday morning or having a coffee at 3 o clock during work hours while all the Germans are hussling and sweat their a... off at work to afford your vacation in Germany.

[Zeno]

Publicado originalmente por Chaosolous:

Publicado originalmente por Shashka92:

No need, she knows my opinion and 100% agrees with me. In fact, she is the one who explained most of this to me and confirmed what I have observed.

This must really shake your world now, doesn't it ? That its actually a REAL thing happening not just some brain fart of mine.

I’ve been to the Balkans multiple times. I have many Slavic friends and generally date women from that region. I would say you’re pretty far off the mark.

But you do you; ne zanima me.

Balkans are very different though.

[KZ_Understanding_the_Rain_000]

Thomas Sowell will tell you about the link between boastfulness and socioeconomic status.

[Zeno]

Publicado originalmente por Frey:

Tomas Sowell will tell you about the link between boastfulness and socioeconomic status.

I studied his work.

[KZ_Understanding_the_Rain_000]

Publicado originalmente por Shashka92:

Publicado originalmente por Frey:

Tomas Sowell will tell you about the link between boastfulness and socioeconomic status.

I studied his work.

It's intriguing and I think he's got it right.

[Zeno]

Publicado originalmente por Frey:

Publicado originalmente por Shashka92:

I studied his work.

It's intriguing and I think he's got it right.

he does, but the gap in slavic cultures is bigger hence it escalates when people are more wealthy

[Chaosolous]

Publicado originalmente por Shashka92:

Publicado originalmente por Chaosolous:

I’ve been to the Balkans multiple times. I have many Slavic friends and generally date women from that region. I would say you’re pretty far off the mark.

But you do you; ne zanima me.

Balkans are very different though.

There’s ample overlap.

The East Slavs, which include those living in Belarus, Russia, and Ukraine.

The West Slavs, which include those living in the Czech Republic, Poland, and Slovakia.

The South Slavs, which are people who live in Bosnia & Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia, and Slovenia.

[Hobbit XIII]

You answered it yourself OP if people come from nothing and then make something of their finances they do change.
If the attitude is always need money need money then they get it ....

As Bruce Lee said 'I have never met an arrogant person who was not secretly embarrassed'.

[Acetyl]

I suspect it's genetic, like a lot of behavioral patterns and temperments that correlate strongly with family lines and general ancestry. If not a hard genetic bias outright, it's a predisposition to certain adaptations and thus transgenerational information uptake. This is part of "know thyself", so you are not ruled by the vessel.

[Nülliflower]

Publicado originalmente por Acetyl:

I suspect it's genetic. If not a hard genetic bias outright, it's a predisposition to certain adaptations and thus transgenerational information uptake. This is part of "know thyself", so you are not ruled by the vessel.

Yes yes, all slavic peoples have the genes that make them alcohol lovers, and it poizons all there minds and makes them dirty and animalistic. VODKA = DEATH, DO NOT DRINK!!!

[Acetyl]

Publicado originalmente por Nülliflower:

Publicado originalmente por Acetyl:

I suspect it's genetic. If not a hard genetic bias outright, it's a predisposition to certain adaptations and thus transgenerational information uptake. This is part of "know thyself", so you are not ruled by the vessel.

Yes yes, all slavic peoples have the genes that make them alcohol lovers, and it poizons all there minds and makes them dirty and animalistic. VODKA = DEATH, DO NOT DRINK!!!

Drugs make people easier to rule. The problem is creating a framework where you can reign in their excesses and still keep things functioning, despite the generally anaesthatized and degraded public. Caffeine is no exception to this strategy, either. A cup of coffee cuts bloodflow to the brain by 40 - 50%, most of that being diverted away from the frontal lobes.

[KZ_Understanding_the_Rain_000]

Publicado originalmente por Nülliflower:

Publicado originalmente por Acetyl:

I suspect it's genetic. If not a hard genetic bias outright, it's a predisposition to certain adaptations and thus transgenerational information uptake. This is part of "know thyself", so you are not ruled by the vessel.

Yes yes, all slavic peoples have the genes that make them alcohol lovers, and it poizons all there minds and makes them dirty and animalistic. VODKA = DEATH, DO NOT DRINK!!!

It can go either way. My grandfather was an alcoholic apparently but I manage to stay away from it, especially knowing this is a problem among my ancestors. When I do consume alcohol I like to do it moderately, and formally. Like a fine dining kind of thing.

My pot smoking is a bit out of control though. Supposedly the lesser of two evils so to speak but probably not a great thing to be over consuming either. They legalised it in Canada though so nothing is really stopping me.

[Zeno]

Publicado originalmente por Chaosolous:

Publicado originalmente por Shashka92:

Balkans are very different though.

There’s ample overlap.

The East Slavs, which include those living in Belarus, Russia, and Ukraine.

The West Slavs, which include those living in the Czech Republic, Poland, and Slovakia.

The South Slavs, which are people who live in Bosnia & Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia, and Slovenia.

Nothing new here.

[Raelic]

Attributing a negative trait to an entire race or nationality of people based on limited experience with a few is called something...

[Hobbit XIII]

Publicado originalmente por Raelic:

Attributing a negative trait to an entire race or nationality of people based on limited experience with a few is called something...

American?

[Raelic]

Publicado originalmente por Hobbit XIII:

Publicado originalmente por Raelic:

Attributing a negative trait to an entire race or nationality of people based on limited experience with a few is called something...

American?

Ironically, OP says they are German in their profile.