Mightier empires than America have fallen.

Všechny diskuze > Fóra služby Steam > Off Topic > Detaily tématu

ChickenTacos 15. led. 2024 v 8.12

Oh, wait, they didn't have the atomic bomb.

Autor tohoto tématu označil jeden z příspěvků jako nejlepší (často jde o odpověď na původní otázku).
Kliknutím zde přeskočíte na zmíněný příspěvek.

Původně napsal De Hollandse Ezel:

there is more than 1 way to falll..

rome fell not because of outside force..

it fell due :

1 moral erosian.. the fail and cultural values that made it great were abandoned...
2 a disrepect for life... rising child murder, dropping birthrates.. within 100 years of dropping below replacement rate rome was gone
3 failure to assymliate immigrants.. rome always was welcoming to immigrants/extend it's citycenship to ever more people.. but rome was forcing ITS culture on others before doing so.. once it stopped doing so and allowed strangers to live within it's borders.. without assimilating them to their own culture.. things fell apart
4 inflation/economic failure... debasement of the currency.. and no longer an influx of new gold and silver.. while a lot of it flowed out to purchase luxery goods from the east
5 corporatism.. a few wealthy families caring more both makling short term money than the long term stabbility or succes of the empire.. assasinating one emperor after the other.. not wanting to spend to defend its borders.. and getting rid of emperors who wanted to fix these things. this eroded the effectiveness the state could be run..
6 welfare state.. the few roman plebeans left were placent.. one one end they were exploited by the corporate wealthy nobilea.. left without a chance to earn their own property as in the past by serving the empire 20 years.. on the other they were given free bread dayly.. so they no longer felt as big an urge due poverty to join the army..

all these factors basicly ment the rinstitution that make up a state : religion, the culture, the state, the economy and the army.. all were weakened.. thus all it took was little to tear it all down..

right until 20 year before i'ts end.. there were still good noble romans trying to save it.. there were just to many barbarian immigrants, welfare sucking liberals, and backstabbing "investeors" for them to ever stand a chance..
many times a man stood up that could save rome.. many time those detremental groups stuck such a man down..

if america falls it will be by the same factors..
however.. it is more likely that america is not at it's end yet.. it is merely in the transistion between republic and empire... likely it will restore it's christian roots.. as a latin empire... in the coming century..

for europe... collapse seems far more likely.. basicly like the greeks of old..

but know that no thing but God last forever.. even the "new rome" of the anticrist will fall..
only the kingdom of Christ will be the one that stands forever.. all things on this earth.. will come to pass..

< >

Zobrazeno 166–180 z 183 komentářů

Pharaoh (Revolution Idol) 16. led. 2024 v 11.22

strandd505 původně napsal:
Lay that question out for a layman lol. Id like to give you an answer if i could, an opinion actually

Well, there have been several prophets. I believe Samuel is considered the first. Christians believe in Jesus as the Christos - the Messiach, and a personification of the Logos. Other Abrahamic faiths don't believe this or consider other prophets to fulfil this description more.

#166

Birds 16. led. 2024 v 11.22

Frey původně napsal:
Birds původně napsal:

No You Made It Up; The Books Are Lies; Sometimes Things Happen For No Reason.
Made up or not that's how the faith was spread and how the faith changed and evolved.

as suggested you're homogenizing them towards an atheistic perspective, itself delusional and self-serving.

#167

Pharaoh (Revolution Idol) 16. led. 2024 v 11.24

Birds původně napsal:
Frey původně napsal:
Made up or not that's how the faith was spread and how the faith changed and evolved.

as suggested you're homogenizing them towards an atheistic perspective, itself delusional and self-serving.

No, I'm suggesting we do a comparative study.

#168

strandd505 16. led. 2024 v 11.27

Well Muhammad isnt cool then..Jesus doesnt say kill peiple who arent Christians. In Christianity you walk next to Jesus, in Islam you are below their God.

i dont pay attention sometimes, many times in fact but i heard that even the koran says the bible is the only truth or something along those lines. im gonna look for it if anyone cares if not im gonna play baldurs gate 3 or get on Bitwig whoop whoop

Naposledy upravil strandd505; 16. led. 2024 v 11.28

#169

Pharaoh (Revolution Idol) 16. led. 2024 v 11.27

Perhaps Eagle symbology could be an interesting topic. The Thunderbird, Zeus in his Eagle form, the Eagle of Dan, the winged Atun, etc...

Or solar symbology. Alchemical interpretations of light and blackness. The black cube.

#170

strandd505 16. led. 2024 v 11.29

the monolith!!!!!

#171

Birds 16. led. 2024 v 11.31

Frey původně napsal:
Birds původně napsal:

as suggested you're homogenizing them towards an atheistic perspective, itself delusional and self-serving.
No, I'm suggesting we do a comparative study.

to do what, establish how much of a corrupting influence english society is? there's a bias inherent to the perspective that undertaking the survey is itself supporting. do you know how many radical muslim factions lead directly back to the UK? almost all of them, and they're the reason traditional islam doesn't have much of any international power to defend themselves with. let alone other people.

both scientific atheism as well as protestantism have roots in the same ideals of power and control and manipulation of truth and reality. what is there to compare, different shades of blue sky?

Naposledy upravil Birds; 16. led. 2024 v 11.32

#172

Pharaoh (Revolution Idol) 16. led. 2024 v 11.45

strandd505 původně napsal:
the monolith!!!!!

Grow up. Does having a loving and respectful relationship with other cultures sound so horrible? Do men of all cultures not like having sex with exotic women? And vice versa?

#173

videomike_Ultimate_Plushie 16. led. 2024 v 11.45

Damn, OP made a great choice for the answer.

#174

Pharaoh (Revolution Idol) 16. led. 2024 v 11.53

videomike_Ultimate_Plushie původně napsal:
Damn, OP made a great choice for the answer.

Well, he makes the point that cultural exchange has to be done right. I agree heartily with this.

#175

Pharaoh (Revolution Idol) 16. led. 2024 v 11.58

Have you ever considered that Jango and Boba Fett are father and son but they're also basically the same genetically? Imagine Boba Fett is also Oedipus (he IS his own dad after all in a sense). There's a lot of that kind of stuff going on in the world. Not even the weirdest thing I've encountered.

#176

Pharaoh (Revolution Idol) 16. led. 2024 v 11.59

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puJt66y0TBw

#177

strandd505 16. led. 2024 v 11.59

Frey původně napsal:
strandd505 původně napsal:
the monolith!!!!!
Grow up. Does having a loving and respectful relationship with other cultures sound so horrible? Do men of all cultures not like having sex with exotic women? And vice versa?

lol

#178

Pharaoh (Revolution Idol) 16. led. 2024 v 12.01

strandd505 původně napsal:
Frey původně napsal:
Grow up. Does having a loving and respectful relationship with other cultures sound so horrible? Do men of all cultures not like having sex with exotic women? And vice versa?

lol

That's the real higher truth brother.

#179