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Wtf happened to sony?
they used to be one of the pioneers of of console gaming. Both software and hardware capabilities.

They used to have so many original gaming titles under their belts and were on par with Valve for pushing a good amount of game progress (for consoles obviously)

Nowadays it boiils down to:
-mass censorship
-overpriced underproduced PS5
oh and uh
>ONE GAME!!!! as in ps5 having no original or exclusives enough to justfiy buying it vs an xbox a nintendo console or a PC flat out.
Originally posted by Morkonan:
Originally posted by Fumo Bnnuy n Frends:
Wtf happened to sony?
they used to be one of the pioneers of of console gaming. Both software and hardware capabilities.
..

They got desperate, that's what happened.

The "console wars" pressured them heavily, but Sony is/was much more than a console gaming company. And, that was/is the problem. As it stands, Sony has tried to heavily leverage its entertainment offerings by repeatedly dumping large sums of cash in expectation that a miracle will occur...

They tried, and failed, to create a captive marketplace with their console. That's where that has broken them in that market. They pushed for exclusivity, but didn't realize that was an old strategy that doesn't play well anymore when gamers have access to a huge assortment of games at their finger-tips. What gains the largest audience, a huge assortment of games that attract a large audience segment, or appealing to Spider-Man fans? (Heck, with record SM2 sales, PS5 customers showed their desperation. The important number is actually new console unit sales, since Sony desperately leverages its exclusive titles for marketing consoles.)


They just suck at competing in the Western marketplace. That's it. All of their failings in producing games and gaining offerings for their console are directly tied to that failure to understand the significance of even the tiniest competitive challenges.

Now, they don't have the capital to leverage their console to create a "competitor product." They didn't know how to create a "home entertainment" system, didn't try to bridge the gap between PC and Console, and got hammered by a company that arguably has a monopoly on PC environments, a gigantic cloud services arm, and a big phat wallet, resources Sony just doesn't have.

It was never a fair fight.

PS: I know this goes one-step-above game offerings and console talk, but those are the results of bigger problems.
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How the hell do you 180 that badly?
Sixtyfivekills Jan 12, 2024 @ 9:17pm 
Also apparently they're making a Gravity Rush movie, and guess what, it looks horrible.


Yeah dude, I love when companies take dead series and instead of doing something about it they decide to finish it off with a live action movie not a single person in this universe asked for.
Blunt Raps Jan 12, 2024 @ 9:17pm 
Sony as a whole has been slipping (their audio division too).

The playstation brand hasnt been king of the exclusives since the ps1 (arguably the ps2 as well, but everything had started becoming multiplat that gen).

Uncharted was always mediocre. (Subpar gameplay with great animations and art)
Last of us too.
God of war was mid, they changed up the entire gameplay style to make it relevant.
Gran turismo hasnt been revolutionary since GT1.
Horizon is a ubisoft game.

The playstation brand is slightly less scummy than xbox, and arguably even nintendo these days. I would still buy a PS over an xbox, but it has nothing to do with exclusives.
Enigmatic Jan 12, 2024 @ 9:28pm 
I don't consider some 'PC ports' as detracting from sony's exclusives.

For example Tekken would be much better on Console than pc.

I dunno they put android on their music players now. I hope they go back to loading their own software but hell. I'll just have to be careful with mine.
Originally posted by εnigmatic:
I don't consider some 'PC ports' as detracting from sony's exclusives.

For example Tekken would be much better on Console than pc.

I dunno they put android on their music players now. I hope they go back to loading their own software but hell. I'll just have to be careful with mine.
olive branch they're doing stuff but not as good as their hay days / glory or golden years.

Originally posted by Sixtyfivekills:
Also apparently they're making a Gravity Rush movie, and guess what, it looks horrible.


Yeah dude, I love when companies take dead series and instead of doing something about it they decide to finish it off with a live action movie not a single person in this universe asked for.
no way
secuda Jan 12, 2024 @ 10:05pm 
Reality of a console is catching up nothing more.
Magic A. I. Jan 13, 2024 @ 9:10am 
Originally posted by Fumo Bnnuy n Frends:
Wtf happened to sony?
Japanese economy happened to Sony. And it actually happened a while ago, but they are a big enough company so in gaming it only became truly noticeable in the recent four years or so. I imagine Covid and global trade issues didn't help it much either. :SFDeath:
Pierce Dalton Jan 13, 2024 @ 9:12am 
Originally posted by εnigmatic:

For example Tekken would be much better on Console than pc.

?

Why is that?
Xautos Jan 13, 2024 @ 9:22am 
Originally posted by Fumo Bnnuy n Frends:
How the hell do you 180 that badly?

money.
76561199521118219 Jan 13, 2024 @ 10:15am 
ford was once number 1 car producer, then competition arose. most brands are fake that is a lot of it is marketing and snake oil.
Q-T_3.14.exe Jan 13, 2024 @ 10:35am 
Didn't they move their console development to the US or something?
I remember people being upset about that years ago for some reason.
Birds Jan 13, 2024 @ 10:49am 
they transitioned from a US-backed technology outlet to the sole company holing the reigns of Japan's yakuza as well as the technology sector. They essentially tell everyone in every sector what to do, and act as a locus for the resources necessary to make that work.

If any other powerful companies get out of line Sony has spent so long giving most of its income to Yakuza that nobody notices if they spend a little extra sending them after those companies.
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Morkonan Jan 13, 2024 @ 11:44am 
Originally posted by Fumo Bnnuy n Frends:
Wtf happened to sony?
they used to be one of the pioneers of of console gaming. Both software and hardware capabilities.
..

They got desperate, that's what happened.

The "console wars" pressured them heavily, but Sony is/was much more than a console gaming company. And, that was/is the problem. As it stands, Sony has tried to heavily leverage its entertainment offerings by repeatedly dumping large sums of cash in expectation that a miracle will occur...

They tried, and failed, to create a captive marketplace with their console. That's where that has broken them in that market. They pushed for exclusivity, but didn't realize that was an old strategy that doesn't play well anymore when gamers have access to a huge assortment of games at their finger-tips. What gains the largest audience, a huge assortment of games that attract a large audience segment, or appealing to Spider-Man fans? (Heck, with record SM2 sales, PS5 customers showed their desperation. The important number is actually new console unit sales, since Sony desperately leverages its exclusive titles for marketing consoles.)


They just suck at competing in the Western marketplace. That's it. All of their failings in producing games and gaining offerings for their console are directly tied to that failure to understand the significance of even the tiniest competitive challenges.

Now, they don't have the capital to leverage their console to create a "competitor product." They didn't know how to create a "home entertainment" system, didn't try to bridge the gap between PC and Console, and got hammered by a company that arguably has a monopoly on PC environments, a gigantic cloud services arm, and a big phat wallet, resources Sony just doesn't have.

It was never a fair fight.

PS: I know this goes one-step-above game offerings and console talk, but those are the results of bigger problems.
Originally posted by Morkonan:
Originally posted by Fumo Bnnuy n Frends:
Wtf happened to sony?
they used to be one of the pioneers of of console gaming. Both software and hardware capabilities.
..

They got desperate, that's what happened.

The "console wars" pressured them heavily, but Sony is/was much more than a console gaming company. And, that was/is the problem. As it stands, Sony has tried to heavily leverage its entertainment offerings by repeatedly dumping large sums of cash in expectation that a miracle will occur...

They tried, and failed, to create a captive marketplace with their console. That's where that has broken them in that market. They pushed for exclusivity, but didn't realize that was an old strategy that doesn't play well anymore when gamers have access to a huge assortment of games at their finger-tips. What gains the largest audience, a huge assortment of games that attract a large audience segment, or appealing to Spider-Man fans? (Heck, with record SM2 sales, PS5 customers showed their desperation. The important number is actually new console unit sales, since Sony desperately leverages its exclusive titles for marketing consoles.)


They just suck at competing in the Western marketplace. That's it. All of their failings in producing games and gaining offerings for their console are directly tied to that failure to understand the significance of even the tiniest competitive challenges.

Now, they don't have the capital to leverage their console to create a "competitor product." They didn't know how to create a "home entertainment" system, didn't try to bridge the gap between PC and Console, and got hammered by a company that arguably has a monopoly on PC environments, a gigantic cloud services arm, and a big phat wallet, resources Sony just doesn't have.

It was never a fair fight.

PS: I know this goes one-step-above game offerings and console talk, but those are the results of bigger problems.
didnt they also start charging for psn while xbox was gona back down with xbox live?
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