Anti-Christian bias on the internet

[Alienslayer2406]

I should preface this by saying that I myself am a Baptist and I have been for the majority of my life. I used to be more conservative politically, but in recent years I've realized that many aspects of modern American conservatism are incompatible with my faith. Though I'm quite active on the internet, most of my time is spent on places like Reddit which have a more Leftist focus and a large atheist demographic, so it's entirely possible that I'm connecting dots where there are none and thinking my own little bubble represents the world as a whole.

I've recently noticed that a particular portion of the internet seems to be biased against Christianity. Now, don't get me wrong, I don't want to come off as having a persecution complex - Christianity in the largest religion in the world and a large number of elected officials are Christian - but it seems to me that criticism of Christianity is more widely accepted online compared to criticism of other religions. If you criticize or show disagreement with other religions such as Islam or Judaism, chances are you'll be labeled Islamophobic or antisemitic. In other words, it seems that it's okay to criticize religion as long as Christianity is the religion in question.

Of course, I can kind of understand. Sadly, Christians have caused a lot of suffering in the world; the crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the Salem Witch Trials, discrimination against LGBT people, etc; there are even some sects of the KKK that claim to be Christian. But all the other religions out there aren't innocent either. With Islam you have the Taliban, child marriage, extreme infringement of women's rights and persecution of LGBT people. With Judaism you have the current genocide against the Palestinians -- and I want to clarifiy: I don't support neither Hamas nor the Israeli government. Both of them have done terrible things and need to be punished accordingly. A nation's people is separate from it's government.

The point I'm trying to make is that everyone has skeletons in their closet. Surely, most major religions all have blood on their hands. We should criticize everyone equally. If we mock one group, we may as well mock them all. Why single specifically Christians out?

I'm not here to cause an argument, just thoughtful discussion.

[Hobbit XIII]

Ursprungligen skrivet av apathy:

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Bible? More the book of the Holy Contradictions.

Read it and understand where the people are coming from.
Look at the times and who they were speaking to.
Or just be spoonfed and complain of the taste.

Would be nice to see people discuss theories about the universe or a video from youtube or something from Brian Greene on having an open mind and some of his and his colleagues thoughts on existence.

[Xautos]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Alienslayer2406:

I should preface this by saying that I myself am a Baptist and I have been for the majority of my life. I used to be more conservative politically, but in recent years I've realized that many aspects of modern American conservatism are incompatible with my faith. Though I'm quite active on the internet, most of my time is spent on places like Reddit which have a more Leftist focus and a large atheist demographic, so it's entirely possible that I'm connecting dots where there are none and thinking my own little bubble represents the world as a whole.

I've recently noticed that a particular portion of the internet seems to be biased against Christianity. Now, don't get me wrong, I don't want to come off as having a persecution complex - Christianity in the largest religion in the world and a large number of elected officials are Christian - but it seems to me that criticism of Christianity is more widely accepted online compared to criticism of other religions. If you criticize or show disagreement with other religions such as Islam or Judaism, chances are you'll be labeled Islamophobic or antisemitic. In other words, it seems that it's okay to criticize religion as long as Christianity is the religion in question.

Of course, I can kind of understand. Sadly, Christians have caused a lot of suffering in the world; the crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the Salem Witch Trials, discrimination against LGBT people, etc; there are even some sects of the KKK that claim to be Christian. But all the other religions out there aren't innocent either. With Islam you have the Taliban, child marriage, extreme infringement of women's rights and persecution of LGBT people. With Judaism you have the current genocide against the Palestinians -- and I want to clarifiy: I don't support neither Hamas nor the Israeli government. Both of them have done terrible things and need to be punished accordingly. A nation's people is separate from it's government.

The point I'm trying to make is that everyone has skeletons in their closet. Surely, most major religions all have blood on their hands. We should criticize everyone equally. If we mock one group, we may as well mock them all. Why single specifically Christians out?

I'm not here to cause an argument, just thoughtful discussion.

because like you wrote, Christianity has a lot of skeletons in the closet that should be in the ground instead, and for some reason your religion wants to keep them in the closet, yet if you were connected to god as your religion claims it is, god would want them in the ground and for you to act in a more forgiving and charitable mood to your victims that ended up in the closet.

also like you said, every side has committed who knows what actions, yet this isn't about them, it's about your values.

[Slim]

Christianity had 610 years head start and hasn't killed half as many people has islam has thru out all of history.

[Electric Cupcake]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Hobbit XIII:

Ursprungligen skrivet av apathy:

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Bible? More the book of the Holy Contradictions.

Read it and understand where the people are coming from.
Look at the times and who they were speaking to.
Or just be spoonfed and complain of the taste.

Would be nice to see people discuss theories about the universe or a video from youtube or something from Brian Greene on having an open mind and some of his and his colleagues thoughts on existence.

Asimov's Commentaries are a great read. It may or may not be inspired by God, but the books of the bible were written centuries apart by different people in radically different societies.

https://archive.org/details/AsimovsGuideToTheBibleTheOldAndNewTestaments2Vols.IsaacAsimov

[Hobbit XIII]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Electric Cupcake:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Hobbit XIII:

Read it and understand where the people are coming from.
Look at the times and who they were speaking to.
Or just be spoonfed and complain of the taste.

Would be nice to see people discuss theories about the universe or a video from youtube or something from Brian Greene on having an open mind and some of his and his colleagues thoughts on existence.

Asimov's Commentaries are a great read. It may or may not be inspired by God, but the books of the bible were written centuries apart by different people in radically different societies.

https://archive.org/details/AsimovsGuideToTheBibleTheOldAndNewTestaments2Vols.IsaacAsimov

I like Asimov still yet to finish the last part of Foundation Trilogy. I'll have a look at the link tomorrow thanks for sharing.

The bible consists of different sources from letters to thous shalt type sermons and the rest of it. I read the Judas part and if that was from him then that guy just seemed way out there.

If Jesus was not supernatural then he was light years ahead intellectually which is in my opinion more wonderous for lack of a better word.

[Zeno]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Alienslayer2406:

I should preface this by saying that I myself am a Baptist and I have been for the majority of my life. I used to be more conservative politically, but in recent years I've realized that many aspects of modern American conservatism are incompatible with my faith. Though I'm quite active on the internet, most of my time is spent on places like Reddit which have a more Leftist focus and a large atheist demographic, so it's entirely possible that I'm connecting dots where there are none and thinking my own little bubble represents the world as a whole.

I've recently noticed that a particular portion of the internet seems to be biased against Christianity. Now, don't get me wrong, I don't want to come off as having a persecution complex - Christianity in the largest religion in the world and a large number of elected officials are Christian - but it seems to me that criticism of Christianity is more widely accepted online compared to criticism of other religions. If you criticize or show disagreement with other religions such as Islam or Judaism, chances are you'll be labeled Islamophobic or antisemitic. In other words, it seems that it's okay to criticize religion as long as Christianity is the religion in question.

Of course, I can kind of understand. Sadly, Christians have caused a lot of suffering in the world; the crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the Salem Witch Trials, discrimination against LGBT people, etc; there are even some sects of the KKK that claim to be Christian. But all the other religions out there aren't innocent either. With Islam you have the Taliban, child marriage, extreme infringement of women's rights and persecution of LGBT people. With Judaism you have the current genocide against the Palestinians -- and I want to clarifiy: I don't support neither Hamas nor the Israeli government. Both of them have done terrible things and need to be punished accordingly. A nation's people is separate from it's government.

The point I'm trying to make is that everyone has skeletons in their closet. Surely, most major religions all have blood on their hands. We should criticize everyone equally. If we mock one group, we may as well mock them all. Why single specifically Christians out?

I'm not here to cause an argument, just thoughtful discussion.

I am not religious so excuse me if I don't get this right.

But what I have noticed is that christianity is the only religion that gets bashed, made fun of and is used in " comedy " all the time, wherever I look online.

Basically, I think christians take too much sh... and accept too much humiliation.
I mean have you ever wondered why there barely are any jokes or " teasing " about religions such as Islam or Hinduism or even Judaism ? Whenever it happens, its always through a backdoor but in Christianity, they straight up portray Jesus as some sort of funny individual of some sort.

Christians just accept this stuff and the times are gone when heroic proud crusader knights or conquistadors pop out of some corner and punish everyone who dares to laugh about it. Now its quite the opposite.

Here in Europe its a dying religion, the churches here in my country are mostly empty and the only visitors are usually some old people.

[Daenoxiis]

The Big Three are called The Big Three for a reason. And I find it a bit ironic that they have so much in-fighting when they're all both monotheistic and Abrahamic. Very rarely to I find any kind of theological "debate" on the internet interesting. Over the past 20 years of my life I've, studied A LOT of different faiths. From The Big Three, to Hellenic Paganism, to Babylon, down through roughly 8 years of studying Mesopotamia and the Sumerian and Assyrian worlds, I studied Hinduism a bit and now I'm studying Buddhism. I appreciate scholastic and intellectual theological discussion, because of how much of a part of my life that theological study is, but the modern formality of "debate" isn't even properly debate, and even if it was, I'd likely only be interested in it if both candidates had something actually factually interesting to say instead of just their subjective stance. There is no end to subjective debate, just as there is no structure to it, either. It's just a bunch of people with feelings, who can't figure out how to manage their feelings. Maybe it's because I'm 35, maybe it's because I extensively studied the anthropological aspect of the Mesopotamian timeline for 10 years as well as the evolution of the area socio-politically and economically, but I really have no interest in this modern formality of "debate" where nothing actually gets said worth taking notes on because it's so subjective. I like physics, and chemistry. Things that are intellectually relativistic if not factually exact. But I can't extrapolate that from the usual run-of-the-mill modern theological debate. Comparative Religions was a course I quite enjoyed and, I wish it was more properly respected rather than being ran over the way it tends to be through mainstream media outlets.

[Lupa]

As long as they ain't one of the folk that say I'm going to hell for this or that then it's whatever

[Eskimofo]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Daenoxiis:

The Big Three are called The Big Three for a reason. And I find it a bit ironic that they have so much in-fighting when they're all both monotheistic and Abrahamic. Very rarely to I find any kind of theological "debate" on the internet interesting. Over the past 20 years of my life I've, studied A LOT of different faiths. From The Big Three, to Hellenic Paganism, to Babylon, down through roughly 8 years of studying Mesopotamia and the Sumerian and Assyrian worlds, I studied Hinduism a bit and now I'm studying Buddhism. I appreciate scholastic and intellectual theological discussion, because of how much of a part of my life that theological study is, but the modern formality of "debate" isn't even properly debate, and even if it was, I'd likely only be interested in it if both candidates had something actually factually interesting to say instead of just their subjective stance. There is no end to subjective debate, just as there is no structure to it, either. It's just a bunch of people with feelings, who can't figure out how to manage their feelings. Maybe it's because I'm 35, maybe it's because I extensively studied the anthropological aspect of the Mesopotamian timeline for 10 years as well as the evolution of the area socio-politically and economically, but I really have no interest in this modern formality of "debate" where nothing actually gets said worth taking notes on because it's so subjective. I like physics, and chemistry. Things that are intellectually relativistic if not factually exact. But I can't extrapolate that from the usual run-of-the-mill modern theological debate. Comparative Religions was a course I quite enjoyed and, I wish it was more properly respected rather than being ran over the way it tends to be through mainstream media outlets.

did you study physics and chemistry extensively as well?

[Hobbit XIII]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Daenoxiis:

The Big Three are called The Big Three for a reason. And I find it a bit ironic that they have so much in-fighting when they're all both monotheistic and Abrahamic. Very rarely to I find any kind of theological "debate" on the internet interesting. Over the past 20 years of my life I've, studied A LOT of different faiths. From The Big Three, to Hellenic Paganism, to Babylon, down through roughly 8 years of studying Mesopotamia and the Sumerian and Assyrian worlds, I studied Hinduism a bit and now I'm studying Buddhism. I appreciate scholastic and intellectual theological discussion, because of how much of a part of my life that theological study is, but the modern formality of "debate" isn't even properly debate, and even if it was, I'd likely only be interested in it if both candidates had something actually factually interesting to say instead of just their subjective stance. There is no end to subjective debate, just as there is no structure to it, either. It's just a bunch of people with feelings, who can't figure out how to manage their feelings. Maybe it's because I'm 35, maybe it's because I extensively studied the anthropological aspect of the Mesopotamian timeline for 10 years as well as the evolution of the area socio-politically and economically, but I really have no interest in this modern formality of "debate" where nothing actually gets said worth taking notes on because it's so subjective. I like physics, and chemistry. Things that are intellectually relativistic if not factually exact. But I can't extrapolate that from the usual run-of-the-mill modern theological debate. Comparative Religions was a course I quite enjoyed and, I wish it was more properly respected rather than being ran over the way it tends to be through mainstream media outlets.

and you still cannot write in paragraphs?

[Marcy]

I don't hate any religion. I'm personally not religious at all, long as you respect me, I'll respect you. Hell I'll even pray with you.

But as for the anti-christian bias, there are Christians out there that don't respect others, they treat their religion as the only true religion, and anyone who deviates outside their basis for acceptability is wrong.

Unfortunately that vocal minority is very loud and they are usually the ones in charge of stuff. So people outside Christianity or Religion in general tend to have a negative feeling on Christianity.

[Daenoxiis]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Eskimofo:

did you study physics and chemistry extensively as well? [//quote]

Not AS extensively, but yes
I'm a little bit more versed in theology and anthropology only because of how I grew up as a kid.
I don't think I would've been able to have made much sense out of astrophysics at the age of 13 because there's a great deal of trigonometry involved and at 13 I did not yet understand trig. Chemistry is probably my weakest of what I listed, as I do understand it, but that I didn't really get into it as an interest until probably about 16 and chem. has a lot more demand to be exact than physics does. However that's also not entirely true, it very much depends on what part of physics and where. The algorithm for the electrical signal for processing power definitely demands to be exact, as do many things which utilize physics as an actual normal daily life practice.
I'm what you'd call a hobby study. I grew up poor, and I'm blessed with the ability to be cheaply and easily entertained, and as an adult reading and cross-reference research is exactly that. Plus I find it to be a therapeutic and meditative sort of a practice in a similar way to how I experience gaming.

[Hobbit XIII]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Epsilon-Marcy (She/Her):

I don't hate any religion. I'm personally not religious at all, long as you respect me, I'll respect you. Hell I'll even pray with you.

But as for the anti-christian bias, there are Christians out there that don't respect others, they treat their religion as the only true religion, and anyone who deviates outside their basis for acceptability is wrong.

Unfortunately that vocal minority is very loud and they are usually the ones in charge of stuff. So people outside Christianity or Religion in general tend to have a negative feeling on Christianity.

The problem for me is its very monetised and so many people put money into something that really should not require jets and excess.
The big preachers I am talking about and they give the wrong impression of what Christianity is and people listen to those guys and preach it themselves.

The real Christians are the ones who go into hospitals and give their time up to be there for people.

[Daenoxiis]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Hobbit XIII:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Daenoxiis:

T\\and you still cannot write in paragraphs?

Well admittedly, I didn't actually expect anybody to read and reply to my comment. But yeah I'm that one dude who will kill entire days nose-down in online encyclopedia rabbit holes, doing cross-reference research on topics to other search engine results.

[Krypto]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoYyiNRtMEE