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Tututerokツ雨 2024 年 1 月 11 日 上午 12:33
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What can we do to help Ukraine?
The situation as a whole makes me extremely sad. Is there anything we, my goverment and your goverment can do to ensure Ukraine's victory?

Please keep it civil.
最后由 Tututerokツ雨 编辑于; 2024 年 1 月 15 日 上午 1:31
We can storm the capitol and have a massive rally in there to raise awareness about Ukraine and make Joe "Deepstate" Biden to ACTUALLY aid Ukraine by sending the military forces.

"WW3" boogeyman should be disregarded.
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Bamford 2024 年 1 月 11 日 下午 3:32 
Tech lead had a video early on saying the obvious.

Just Surrender.


Don't die for Joe Biden and Black Rock so they can buy your country and sell your womens wombs.
Bamford 2024 年 1 月 11 日 下午 3:33 
引用自 Qbert
引用自 Xero_Daxter
The war or the thread?

This thread.

Its pointless and most comments are made by people that are greatly misinformed and have probably never been to Ukraine in their entire life nor could differentiate between Russian and Ukrainian language when they hear it.

The funniest part is even they can't.
https://nypost.com/2022/05/03/ukrainian-man-stabbed-for-speaking-russian-in-brooklyn-bar-brawl/
Voroff 2024 年 1 月 11 日 下午 3:34 
引用自 Donut
引用自 Nargo
Luckily Russians aren't naive enough to let a large country like Ukraine be a platform for NATO weapons and missiles that could target key Russian infrastructure and their nuclear deterrents.

Just like how the USA wasn't naive enough to let Cuba host Soviet R-7A Semyorka ICBM's.
Let's totally allow an overtly hostile country to point a gun at our heads bros. Brilliant.

Anyway, did the USA invade Cuba and occupy its land for being close to the soviet reich? No. So there you go.

Hahahaha. Hahahahaha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Cuba and USA backed mercs & coups, a long history of hate. Ever heard of the biggest peack of THAT time period, here
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion
?

"Did the USA tried to invade cuba, i say no !" => hahahahahahahaaaaa hahahahaha LOL.
Blacklisted.
Zeno 2024 年 1 月 11 日 下午 3:34 
引用自 Bamford
引用自 Qbert

This thread.

Its pointless and most comments are made by people that are greatly misinformed and have probably never been to Ukraine in their entire life nor could differentiate between Russian and Ukrainian language when they hear it.

The funniest part is even they can't.
https://nypost.com/2022/05/03/ukrainian-man-stabbed-for-speaking-russian-in-brooklyn-bar-brawl/

Interesting that you post this, the exact same thing happened a few times around here in Europe.

And yes, I am aware that many Ukrainians speak Russian, this includes my wife.
Bamford 2024 年 1 月 11 日 下午 3:36 
引用自 Ad Victoriam !
引用自 Nargo
Luckily Russians aren't naive enough to let a large country like Ukraine be a platform for NATO weapons and missiles that could target key Russian infrastructure and their nuclear deterrents.

Just like how the USA wasn't naive enough to let Cuba host Soviet R-7A Semyorka ICBM's.
Let's totally allow an overtly hostile country to point a gun at our heads bros. Brilliant.

Well ... That's already the case, as a good part of the nuclear deterent capabilities of Russia are very close to Finland's border (NATO member).

The real reason is because russians want to protect Moscow and the most populated areas of Russia all around it. They want a buffer zone to protect their core, of sort. But yeah, the short answer is : Russia can't tolerate a pro-NATO / EU / USA Ukraine so close to their very heart.

Which is why it was so stupid for Finland to join, the shorter the reaction time the more prone to mistakes and the more likely Finland will become a nuclear radiation buffer in the next war.

They elected a woman who wanted to be popular and be in with the in crowd, and so they will pay the price if there is a war.

Its just proof of how deeply irresponsible the people who are in charge are, and so its no surprise they recklessly instigated this war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68SKPmcvESY
最后由 Bamford 编辑于; 2024 年 1 月 11 日 下午 3:46
Meister Donut 2024 年 1 月 11 日 下午 3:36 
引用自 Voroff
引用自 Donut

Anyway, did the USA invade Cuba and occupy its land for being close to the soviet reich? No. So there you go.

Hahahaha. Hahahahaha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Cuba and USA backed mercs & coups, a long history of hate. Ever heard of the biggest peack of THAT time period, here
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion
?

"Did the USA tried to invade cuba, i say no !" => hahahahahahahaaaaa hahahahaha LOL.
Blacklisted.

Hahaha, the question is. DID the USA take cuba's territory just like russia does in Ukraine
now? Yes or no.
最后由 Meister Donut 编辑于; 2024 年 1 月 11 日 下午 3:37
Zeno 2024 年 1 月 11 日 下午 3:37 
引用自 Donut
引用自 Voroff

Hahahaha. Hahahahaha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Cuba and USA backed mercs & coups, a long history of hate. Ever heard of the biggest peack of THAT time period, here
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion
?

"Did the USA tried to invade cuba, i say no !" => hahahahahahahaaaaa hahahahaha LOL.
Blacklisted.

Hahaha, the question is. DID the USA take cuba's territory just like russia does in Ukraine
now? Yes or no.

Well they tried but utterly failed.

What the difference? If you fail with your invasion its less bad ?

LOL. Its like saying, failed robberies are alright.
Meister Donut 2024 年 1 月 11 日 下午 3:43 
引用自 Qbert
引用自 Donut

Hahaha, the question is. DID the USA take cuba's territory just like russia does in Ukraine
now? Yes or no.

Well they tried but utterly failed.

What the difference? If you fail with your invasion its less bad ?

LOL. Its like saying, failed robberies are alright.

The difference is that multiple hundreds thousands of people died in Ukraine invasion so far just because of putbutt's ego.

And if your robbery fails already at the doorstep than I wouldn't even call it a robbery, yes.
Bamford 2024 年 1 月 11 日 下午 3:43 
引用自 Donut
引用自 Voroff

Hahahaha. Hahahahaha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Cuba and USA backed mercs & coups, a long history of hate. Ever heard of the biggest peack of THAT time period, here
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion
?

"Did the USA tried to invade cuba, i say no !" => hahahahahahahaaaaa hahahahaha LOL.
Blacklisted.

Hahaha, the question is. DID the USA take cuba's territory just like russia does in Ukraine
now? Yes or no.

No they just sanctioned them for how many years now?

More than half a century of collective punishment and poverty, this is your standard.

So Russia should be able to wall off Ukraine from the world as well by your standard.

But we all know your "rules based order" is just hypocrisy, double standards, to the point of killing thousands of children in Gaza using newly delivered American bombs and weapons.


You have no moral high ground to speak, as more and more of the world turns on the immoral Biden Regime/coup.

Yemen, Syria, Iran, Lebanon, Iraq are now hostile, while your dementia patient tries for further war with Russia and China as if they aren't being laughed out of the Red Sea as we speak.

People are tired of your genocidal hypocrisy under the banner of the rainbow.

The "greatest ally" is being reported to the Hague for genocide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wjLKakAvPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxYV5Nf4vz8


最后由 Bamford 编辑于; 2024 年 1 月 11 日 下午 3:47
Netaris 2024 年 1 月 11 日 下午 3:44 
引用自 Donut

Hahaha, the question is. DID the USA take cuba's territory just like russia does in Ukraine
now? Yes or no.

Ukraine's case is a bit more complicated, there is not only ukrainians in Ukraine. In the east of the country, some populations speak russian and feel more russian than ukrainian. What's not the case in the west. As the ukrainian government oppressed these peoples, maybe it's better if they're separated in the future. There was no americans in great numbers in Cuba on the other hand and Cuba was way farer from their main city Washington too.
Zeno 2024 年 1 月 11 日 下午 3:46 
引用自 Donut
引用自 Qbert

Well they tried but utterly failed.

What the difference? If you fail with your invasion its less bad ?

LOL. Its like saying, failed robberies are alright.

The difference is that multiple hundreds thousands of people died in Ukraine invasion so far just because of putbutt's ego.

And if your robbery fails already at the doorstep than I wouldn't even call it a robbery, yes.

I am having a hard time havint a serious and civil discussion with someone who uses words such as " puttbutt ".

My advise, look at U.S bases around the world (there are maps for that) and military operations the U.S has been involved in as well as initiated since 1950s and maybe also look into the deaths they have caused by doing so.

Out of the sudden, Russia looks actually like a saint..

I won't even bother, cheers. Maybe next time once you bring along some actual arguments and not just " combative terminology " and phrases you have heard on CNN and BBC.
Zeno 2024 年 1 月 11 日 下午 3:51 
引用自 Ad Victoriam !
引用自 Donut

Hahaha, the question is. DID the USA take cuba's territory just like russia does in Ukraine
now? Yes or no.

Ukraine's case is a bit more complicated, there is not only ukrainians in Ukraine. In the east of the country, some populations speak russian and feel more russian than ukrainian. What's not the case in the west. As the ukrainian government oppressed these peoples, maybe it's better if they're separated in the future. There was no americans in great numbers in Cuba on the other hand and Cuba was way farer from their main city Washington too.

Its actually even more complicated than that and I know that from first hand.

Pretty much ALL Ukrainians speak Russian in their daily lives, the only ones that do not are the ones in western Ukraine, the rest does. The language they use, is not remotely connected to their political or cultural association. You can find plenty of russian speaking Ukrainians in lets say central Ukraine, who do not feel like Russians and are proud Ukrainians.

Now that being said, Russian and Ukrainian culture are almost identical due to shared history and also due to the USSR as well as all the people that came to Ukraine from Russia and the other way around. Until 2014 this was actually never even a relevant topic.

I myself have been to Ukraine numerous times and even lived there for a period of time as I am married into a Ukrainian family from central Ukraine and I basically do not know ANY Ukrainian family that does not have some Russian grandfather or great-grandparent.
Its all interconnected.

Most westerners do not understand this at all nor would they comprehend what the actual challenge is in Ukraine.

The majority of Ukrainians does not want to be separated and the majority also does not want to become part of Russia. At the same time, the majority does not want to give up their Russian language and cultural connection either.

Ukraine has become a mad place nowadays, they even removed orthodox christmas as an official bank holiday and replaced it with our christian christmas just to please their western supporters, its insane (as almost all Ukrainians are orthodox christians). I can go on and on...the Ukrainian government has never been fair, very democratic or honest, in fact they are tremendously corrupt and aren't a tad better than the Russian government.

Basically just a puppet state for the US and UK, hence so many U.S companies have most of their communication employees based in Ukraine, which by the way they pay only a very low wage.
ZZZZZ 2024 年 1 月 11 日 下午 3:55 
引用自 GloriousZote
引用自 ZZZZZ
funny enough, for the scenario of world end it would require russia to be indeed the bad guy
answer the question.
I personally wouldnt, simply cause even if russia had 0 nukes I wouldnt nuke them, same as NATO wouldnt attack russia even if there would be 100% chance of victory
Bamford 2024 年 1 月 11 日 下午 4:03 
引用自 Qbert
引用自 Donut

The difference is that multiple hundreds thousands of people died in Ukraine invasion so far just because of putbutt's ego.

And if your robbery fails already at the doorstep than I wouldn't even call it a robbery, yes.

I am having a hard time havint a serious and civil discussion with someone who uses words such as " puttbutt ".

My advise, look at U.S bases around the world (there are maps for that) and military operations the U.S has been involved in as well as initiated since 1950s and maybe also look into the deaths they have caused by doing so.

Out of the sudden, Russia looks actually like a saint..

I won't even bother, cheers. Maybe next time once you bring along some actual arguments and not just " combative terminology " and phrases you have heard on CNN and BBC.

They do that because they've been fed their attitude by Kremlinologists who have always just been disaffected exiles who spend their time mind reading, many are women like Julia Ioffe and such chosen "expert" talking heads, and so they basically resort to feminine coded type attacks over matters of geopolitics which is especially dangerous.
Netaris 2024 年 1 月 11 日 下午 4:07 
引用自 Qbert
Its actually even more complicated than that and I know that from first hand.

Pretty much ALL Ukrainians speak Russian in their daily lives, the only ones that do not are the ones in western Ukraine, the rest does. The language they use, is not remotely connected to their political or cultural association. You can find plenty of russian speaking Ukrainians in lets say central Ukraine, who do not feel like Russians and are proud Ukrainians.

Now that being said, Russian and Ukrainian culture are almost identical due to shared history and also due to the USSR as well as all the people that came to Ukraine from Russia and the other way around. Until 2014 this was actually never even a relevant topic.

I myself have been to Ukraine numerous times and even lived there for a period of time as I am married into a Ukrainian family from central Ukraine and I basically do not know ANY Ukrainian family that does not have some Russian grandfather or great-grandparent.
Its all interconnected.

Most westerners do not understand this at all nor would they comprehend what the actual challenge is in Ukraine.

The majority of Ukrainians does not want to be separated and the majority also does not want to become part of Russia. At the same time, the majority does not want to give up their Russian language and cultural connection either.

Ukraine has become a mad place nowadays, they even removed orthodox christmas as an official bank holiday and replaced it with our christian christmas just to please their western supporters, its insane (as almost all Ukrainians are orthodox christians). I can go on and on...the Ukrainian government has never been fair, very democratic or honest, in fact they are tremendously corrupt and aren't a tad better than the Russian government.

Basically just a puppet state for the US and UK, hence so many U.S companies have most of their communication employees based in Ukraine, which by the way they pay only a very low wage.

Well, Ukraine is like Korea, it's a mess produced by the rivalry of two greater powers. With the same kind of consequences to anticipate. I am a westerner with 0 link with Ukraine at all, so I can only try to understand the situation. What I understand very well on the other hand is that the true attacker in this story is the USA. As they've provocked an US-backed coup in Ukraine called euro-maidan and knowed very well that the russians will not let that happen without a fight. Americans used this revolution to push slavs against slavs, so as many of them as possible will die in trenches with nothing good to expect from it for themselves.

A war against Russia via proxy, with not a drop of american blood spilled and even better, it's all slavs killing other slavs. This war destroy Ukraine, destroy Russia, destroy the rest of Europe too (economically at least) and the only ones who have their interests served, are the americans. And they'll dump the ukrainians like they already dumped irakis and kurds in the past.

Sad story, a story that keep repeating. I hope one day more peoples will understand that the USA is by far the main threat for world's stability and peace.
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