What's your opinion on anti-natalism?

[Sex Alarm]

What's your opinion on anti-natalism?

[volusat]

a eugenics puppeteer donates to this movements

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

Eugeny, up there with "genic therapy".

[kingjames488]

I'm not familiar with the label.

[Faiyez]

I think it's a stillborn movement.

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

higher scolarship and better oppprtunities will make people have less children anyways. Its not like there has to be a policy for diminishing human population. We need policies for improving quality of life.

Besides, we can produce orders of magnitude more food, if we move away from livestock to a more vegetable based alimentation (not everyone vegetarian, but reducing by a vast amount the intake of animal products). 70% of all grains go to feed livestock, and in Brazil, the main cause of deflorestation is to create more soy (for livestock on other contries) and pastures for cattle. On the other hand, it has been proven we can regenerate degraded areas with other plantation systems (agroforests).

We think we're so evolved, but we already can see some barbaric practices of our times (fossil fuels, extreme amount of meat intake, huge data parks only for "crypto", AI and personal data mining...)

[kingjames488]

Escrito originalmente por Heitor Villa-Lobos:

higher scolarship and better oppprtunities will make people have less children anyways. Its not like there has to be a policy for diminishing human population. We need policies for improving quality of life.

Besides, we can produce orders of magnitude more food, if we move away from livestock to a more vegetable based alimentation (not everyone vegetarian, but reducing by a vast amount the intake of animal products). 70% of all grains go to feed livestock, and in Brazil, the main cause of deflorestation is to create more soy (for livestock on other contries) and pastures for cattle. On the other hand, it has been proven we can regenerate degraded areas with other plantation systems (agroforests).

We think we're so evolved, but we already can see some barbaric practices of our times (fossil fuels, extreme amount of meat intake, huge data parks only for "crypto", AI and personal data mining...)

who needs more children when you can just import working-age adults?

and as an added bonus your infant mortality rate drops to almost 0 increasing the "average life expectancy"!

aren't global politics fun for the locals? :D

[Grendalcat]

Escrito originalmente por kingjames488:

I'm not familiar with the label.

From the wiki article:

"Antinatalism or anti-natalism is a family of philosophical views that are critical of reproduction — they consider coming into existence as it exists presently is immoral. Antinatalists thus argue that humans should abstain from having children. Antinatalist views are not necessarily limited only to humans but may encompass all sentient creatures, arguing that coming into existence is a harm for sentient beings in general."

As to the question, I am not an antinatalist. But I didn't have children either.🙃

[kingjames488]

Escrito originalmente por Grendalcat:

Escrito originalmente por kingjames488:

I'm not familiar with the label.

From the wiki article:

"Antinatalism or anti-natalism is a family of philosophical views that are critical of reproduction — they consider coming into existence as it exists presently is immoral. Antinatalists thus argue that humans should abstain from having children. Antinatalist views are not necessarily limited only to humans but may encompass all sentient creatures, arguing that coming into existence is a harm for sentient beings in general."

As to the question, I am not an antinatalist. But I didn't have children either.🙃

that sounds ridiculous...

that being said I also don't plan on having children simply because I find children to be insufferable and would rather claw my genitals off...

[vkobe]

Escrito originalmente por Sex Alarm:

What's your opinion on anti-natalism?

nun are so hot

[TERRONE]

Escrito originalmente por Hardbasschenko:

Is this against Natalia?

It's against Christmas and Christianity
Buon Natale

[Grendalcat]

This may sum up the antinatalist attitude:

Antinatalist sentiments have existed for thousands of years. Some of the earliest surviving formulations of the idea that it would be better not to have been born can be found in ancient Greece. One example is from Sophocles's Oedipus at Colonus, written shortly before Sophocles's death in 406 BC:

"Not to be born is, beyond all estimation, best; but when a man has seen the light of day, this is next best by far, that with utmost speed he should go back from where he came. For when he has seen youth go by, with its easy merry-making, what hard affliction is foreign to him, what suffering does he not know? Envy, factions, strife, battles, and murders. Last of all falls to his lot old age, blamed, weak, unsociable, friendless, wherein dwells every misery among miseries"

[Xautos]

More extreme case of Existential Nihilism is ever there was one. The pointlessness of Human existence and what any of it stands for.

[gugnihr]

Anti natalism is right: it is really unfair and irresponsible to give birth to people without their consent and for obvious reasons you cannot have their consent before giving birth to them.
On top of that the natural laws of the universe we live in are very harsh and cruel.
And also children are a very heavy burden that will completely destroy your lifestyle... if not your life as a whole.
Honestly I cannot imagine even just one single positive reason to give birth... except the usual lies, naive fantasies and brainwash. But those are just lies and naive idiocies, not real, relevant and positive reasons.
It is bad for the newborn, it is bad for the parents, and everybody will be forced to die at some point anyway so what's the point? It is just pointless cruelty.

[76561199555487730]

Im all for it! Especially in third world and under developed countries. if you can support your population and constantly stricken with famin, lack of clean drinking water, etc then youre people dont need to be reproducinga smaller population will solve most of their problems

[kingjames488]

Escrito originalmente por gugnihr:

Anti natalism is right: it is really unfair and irresponsible to give birth to people without their consent

when you put it like that... it's almost like some sort of abuse!