Steam coming on the next xbox?

[Agent]

I've been seeing videos lately about how Steam is coming to the next Xbox console and it's 100% confirmed by Jez Corden.

If so this would be a game change for budget PC gamers that want to play their steam library and I think allow for Xbox to surpass the sales of PlayStation.

Apparently this next Xbox will be a much more open platform than before.

[Xero_Daxter]

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F.T.S. eredeti hozzászólása:

Is it possible to put steam for linux on an old ps3? I wonder if anyone has tried

The problem with the PS3 is it has an odd set of hardware that makes this almost completely pointless...
I keep thinking it's something to do with the lack? of VRAM, but i honestly can't remember the exact reason for it.

Doesn’t the PS3 have like…. 256 MB of RAM? It is a 2006 machine.

[Boblin the Goblin]

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SlowMango eredeti hozzászólása:

Oh, so you can load Windows on it and use it as a PC?

Yes

Except you can't without modifications.

That means it isn't a PC.

[dyinggg]

SlowMango eredeti hozzászólása:

F.T.S. eredeti hozzászólása:

Yes

Except you can't without modifications.

That means it isn't a PC.

You can put retroarch on series x that will run dosbox that will run windows 98. No modding required.

Also you can put windows 98 (i believe also xp via upgrade method 98>2000>xp) on a softmodded og xbox, which isn't technically a modification to the xbox. Holeup, I found this: https://xbmcxbox.blogspot.com/2014/01/install-microsoft-windows-98-on-orginal.html I remember people claiming to have done this although I have never done it myself. Ok so maybe 2000 and xp aren't possible on og xbox because of kernel. But maybe someone can port dosbox-x to it, I dunno https://fabulous.systems/posts/2023/07/installing-windows-xp-in-dosbox-x/

[Kargor]

Agent eredeti hozzászólása:

I've been seeing videos lately about how Steam is coming to the next Xbox console

and it's 100% confirmed by Jez Corden.

Hint: when dropping a name that's not commonly known, give some information. Who is that guy? Is he even able to make this kind of claim?

Now, "Steam on something" is rather simple; even I have a Steam client of my own that I can compile whereever I need it. It generally runs on my Raspi.

That thing doesn't have the Steam runtime environment, and can't download games -- but, doing the second might be possible and I just don't need it, while doing the first likely borders into piracy. However, Valve could just port their client and runtime to whatever platform they want them on, no problem there.

The thing that makes Steam useful and successful is the games. And Steam is not an operating system -- games still need whatever operating system they are made for.

This means that for "Steam on XBox" to be useful in anyway, publishers would either to bring their XBox-games to Steam, which is unlikely because they are doing just fine selling separate licenses for PC and XBox while people expect to buy one license for all supported platforms on Steam (Steam does not technically require that, but they sure do everything to encourage it...).

Or, XBox would have to run a plain old Windows, so Windows games can run on it. Or, at least, a significant number of Windows games. Maybe games without controller support won't run, or games that actually run through a DOS-emulation. Regardless, XBox would need to be able to run a significant number of the Windows games on Steam for that feature to be useful in any way.

Of course, Microsoft is also in a great position to make a Windows emulator -- but that would still be a lot of work. Wine/Proton has been around "for a while", and it's still not 100%....

[Boblin the Goblin]

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SlowMango eredeti hozzászólása:

Except you can't without modifications.

That means it isn't a PC.

You can put retroarch on series x that will run dosbox that will run windows 98. No modding required.

Also you can put windows 98 (i believe also xp via upgrade method 98>2000>xp) on a softmodded og xbox, which isn't technically a modification to the xbox. Holeup, I found this: https://xbmcxbox.blogspot.com/2014/01/install-microsoft-windows-98-on-orginal.html I remember people claiming to have done this although I have never done it myself. Ok so maybe 2000 and xp aren't possible on og xbox because of kernel. But maybe someone can port dosbox-x to it, I dunno https://fabulous.systems/posts/2023/07/installing-windows-xp-in-dosbox-x/

Retroarch has a UWP package made for Xbox, that's why you can put it on there.

It also requires you to buy a developer license($20), which they remove if you aren't actively de loping for the Xbox.

[dyinggg]

SlowMango eredeti hozzászólása:

F.T.S. eredeti hozzászólása:

You can put retroarch on series x that will run dosbox that will run windows 98. No modding required.

Also you can put windows 98 (i believe also xp via upgrade method 98>2000>xp) on a softmodded og xbox, which isn't technically a modification to the xbox. Holeup, I found this: https://xbmcxbox.blogspot.com/2014/01/install-microsoft-windows-98-on-orginal.html I remember people claiming to have done this although I have never done it myself. Ok so maybe 2000 and xp aren't possible on og xbox because of kernel. But maybe someone can port dosbox-x to it, I dunno https://fabulous.systems/posts/2023/07/installing-windows-xp-in-dosbox-x/

Retroarch has a UWP package made for Xbox, that's why you can put it on there.

It also requires you to buy a developer license($20), which they remove if you aren't actively de loping for the Xbox.

UWP packages aren't modding though. And if talking about the og xbox, a softmod isn't technically modding the xbox itself, just the software on it, which is what we are trying to do anyway.

[hypercybermegatron]

Xbox is ded now. Even EU doesn't have advertising for Xbox console anymore. They screwed themselves with Game Pass.

[Vince ✟]

If consoles were to heavily promote the mouse and board compatibility, I think they could break into the PC market, simply because price. Then you're just buying a pc.

[Boblin the Goblin]

F.T.S. eredeti hozzászólása:

SlowMango eredeti hozzászólása:

Retroarch has a UWP package made for Xbox, that's why you can put it on there.

It also requires you to buy a developer license($20), which they remove if you aren't actively de loping for the Xbox.

UWP packages aren't modding though. And if talking about the og xbox, a softmod isn't technically modding the xbox itself, just the software on it, which is what we are trying to do anyway.

I'm not saying the UWP package is modding. I pointed that out because it was specifically made for Xbox.

[SanekiBeko]

We already have a Steam Console called the Steam Deck. Xbox died long ago.

[dyinggg]

SlowMango eredeti hozzászólása:

F.T.S. eredeti hozzászólása:

UWP packages aren't modding though. And if talking about the og xbox, a softmod isn't technically modding the xbox itself, just the software on it, which is what we are trying to do anyway.

I'm not saying the UWP package is modding. I pointed that out because it was specifically made for Xbox.

I didn't say you said that it was modding. I made that clarification because modding was the distinction you made for it to be a pc in your eyes.

[Crystal Sharrd]

If you have Steam, then wouldn't you already have access to any Xbox-exclusive games via the Microsoft Store, assuming you're running Windows 10 or Windows 11?

[Chaosolous]

What? That makes no sense.

Why would they be pushing gamepass and their own storefront if they're gonna allow Steam on the platform?

They might as well allow the Sony Store on it too.

[Mina]

Tf2 on an xbox ugh

[Boblin the Goblin]

F.T.S. eredeti hozzászólása:

SlowMango eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm not saying the UWP package is modding. I pointed that out because it was specifically made for Xbox.

I didn't say you said that it was modding. I made that clarification because modding was the distinction you made for it to be a pc in your eyes.

For the OG Xbox. The newer ones don't need to be modded but they also just can't run Windows programs and still need specific programs made for them.