The irony of the USA taxes

[Spring_Onion]

just a moment ago i saw a thread talking aboat how the EU shoud adopt USA taxes. I thougth of a quite funny reply but i decided to make it a independent thread.

the irony in that is that the US rebeled against britan because they put high taxes on them. 250 years later, they got:

- income tax
- inheretace tax
- buying tax
- "time spent in restarrant" tax
- "Obnoxios Tiping culture" tax (it works like one)
- "Forced tiping" tax ( bruh)

and the list goes on.

Ponder...

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Overall taxes in USA are lower, productivity higher and purchasing power for the average american is higher than average british person, although they work more and have worse life expectency and inequality which is bad in UK is even worse in USA.

[Fr4ntic]

Generarly hate paying taxes but imo the USA shows that having low taxes to benifit the ppl that have a job doesnt work. It sounds simple like it should work but its counter productive.
There wil alwasy be ppl that for whatever reason dont have a job or cant even work if they wanted to and you want those ppl to have decent income/life as well.
If not your getting it back in higher costs for national medical care , ppl migth have to resort to crime and so on.

[GGcake]

wait. the whole world isnt the USA?

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Both UK and USA have the issue that the economy exist way to much just to benefit the rich, higher taxes on worked income and often low wages due to weak unions and other issues while taxes on owning stuff is low.

When unions was stronger, a normal person working at a car plant in USA could earn like $75 000 in 1970s adjusted for inflation.

[Original Cast Recording]

Publicado originalmente por jARKO:

just a moment ago i saw a thread talking aboat how the EU shoud adopt USA taxes. I thougth of a quite funny reply but i decided to make it a independent thread.

the irony in that is that the US rebeled against britan because they put high taxes on them. 250 years later, they got:

- income tax
- inheretace tax
- buying tax
- "time spent in restarrant" tax
- "Obnoxios Tiping culture" tax (it works like one)
- "Forced tiping" tax ( bruh)

and the list goes on.

Ponder...

I'm pondering what exactly you think is "ironic" about this.

[Incarnate]

No offense, but that's a pretty stupid point to make. Literally no government is possible without taxes, and no colonialists wanted anarchy.

You left out the crucial part of the "taxation without representation" expression, the "representation" aspect. In other words, they had no power over who got to decide to tax them. That's why they rebelled.

Also, tipping is not a tax. The IRS will not arrest you if you refuse to tip 13% to your Hooters waitress. Though I find it hilarious that's what Europeans actually believe.

[Dom]

The lower taxes in the US are an illusion because you're paying massive sums of money out of pocket for the exact same things that are guaranteed by the public system in other countries.

Although I must say, I'm quite happy due to the fact that I don't have to shop for insurance plans nor do I have to wonder whether or not I'm being overcharged by for-profit companies just to have the healthcare that I want or need.

Statistics show an American pays double price for the healthcare as any other resident in any Western country.

[Will be deleted]

You can earn significantly more money working a high paying job in USA than UK and can later move back, so it is not a complete illusion, but yes you need to be prepered to pay more as well.

[Xero_Daxter]

I believe we should ban tipping. If you wanna tip on your own free will then thats on you. But waiters and waitresses should be paid a normal wage because what if they work a graveyard shift with little to no customers around?

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por Dom:

The lower taxes in the US are an illusion because you're paying massive sums of money out of pocket for the exact same things that are guaranteed by the public system in other countries.

Although I must say, I'm quite happy due to the fact that I don't have to shop for insurance plans nor do I have to wonder whether or not I'm being overcharged by for-profit companies just to have the healthcare that I want or need.

Statistics show an American pays double price for the healthcare as any other resident in any Western country.

I'm sure those people who have to wait over a year for doctor's appointments are so happy they don't have to pay for it out of pocket.

If they survive that is.

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Life expectency is higher in UK than USA

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por Xero_Daxter:

I believe we should ban tipping. If you wanna tip on your own free will then thats on you. But waiters and waitresses should be paid a normal wage because what if they work a graveyard shift with little to no customers around?

If they do not make at least minimum wage after tips, the restaurant is required to compensate them to make sure they make minimum wage.

[RRW359]

Yeah tipping can be annoying in States like Oregon.

You live in Vancouver and illegally buy stuff here to save ~8% on sales tax even though that money is supposed to help everyone in your State and you clearly can afford to drive here? Understandable, everyone you mention it to would probably do the same if we lived in Washington.

You don't want to pay 10%-20% in addition to your bill even though tip credit is illegal in Oregon and (most of) Washington meaning they can't possibly be paid less then you? You are cheap and frankly shouldn't be eating out if you can't afford this "optional" payment.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por Will be deleted:

Life expectency is higher in UK than USA

Which has many more factors than healthcare.

[Xero_Daxter]

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

Publicado originalmente por Xero_Daxter:

I believe we should ban tipping. If you wanna tip on your own free will then thats on you. But waiters and waitresses should be paid a normal wage because what if they work a graveyard shift with little to no customers around?

If they do not make at least minimum wage after tips, the restaurant is required to compensate them to make sure they make minimum wage.

Federal minimal wage is $7.25 my dude.