Im so sick and tired of greedy artists trying to halt AI Art

[Millennial_KiwiGamer]

AI Art is the ultimate equalizer in the sense that it allows anyone to put in a description of what they want and then they get that, or something near enough.

It's fantastic for users. It gets rid of needing to commission every little thing saving $$ for the average bob. Not everyone is made of money to be paying artists tons of money for a picture that might take days to make when you can just roll the generator a few times and get something of equal if not better quality than the artist themselves.

The "compromise" argument is also hilarious. Anyone who pays an artist OR uses a generator is compromising because they're relying on a third party to make their vision.

AI Art Good. Greedy Artist bad. :)

[soulcaliber345]

AI art looks really off and really weird.

[Michanicks]

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and harder to get exposure

yes, and I aknowleged that is the main grievance against "AI scraping my art from web search"...

cuz if you post it publicly so people can see it to get publicity that also gives AI the right to view it as it's in the public space...

No, you talk about something unrelated. I just talk how now your artwork has to be noticed in the flow of not only other artists, but also in the flow of these AI generations that don't take as much time to create/to learn/to master and to spam them all over the feed/storage/tag/etc on this art space.

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so how do you continue to put out bait art that links back to your commission page now?

What? What's are you talking about? It seems i understand every of these words separetely, but i can't find sense in them together. And especially don't know how it's are related to the topic.

[Nogsec]

The honeymoon period has worn off, now AI art all has a distinctive unavoidable style and characteristic that make them look similar, and they've poisoned google image search beyond belief

[Bob]

Humans have achieved ai? Be ware it'll as you humans say "♥♥♥♥ you up!" and my invasion will be easier.

[Swarmfly]

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The honeymoon period has worn off, now AI art all has a distinctive unavoidable style and characteristic that make them look similar, and they've poisoned google image search beyond belief

Clearly, it is the animal photographers who should get along with the times! Real animals are just not worth the bother these days.

[🍋 Lemonfed 🍋]

all you need to have to do art is a pen and a piece of paper , you can already draw everything you want on a piece of paper given enough practice.

A.I is not democratizing Art and there never was such a thing like a gatekeeping of Ideas.

[kingjames488]

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first off, I'm not familiar with the situation.

second I'm sure they didn't have to but did so because a bunch of people on social media made a big fuss about it and they thought it would be good publicity to do so since in their overall budget comissioning some random artist to draw something doesn't cost that much compared to the fear of fallout.

which just further goes to show that the demand for "art" will never die... it will only stop the gatekeeping of ideas.

The main problem is that artists put every single detail into their art with a PURPOSE. AI just randomly cobbles assets together. I am not an artist, but when I am drawing, everything in my drawings is a part of a composition. Every element and detail on a drawing has a purpose, down to the last dot. That's not the case with AI. That's what makes AI "art" so appalling. There are way too many small details out of place. And that's being generous and ignoring the extra fingers and awfully mangled hands drawn by the AI.

so what AI is producing isn't art, it's a generated image.

what's the problem then? you can keep your fancy over-priced "art".

[Tito Shivan]

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all you need to have to do art is a pen and a piece of paper , you can already draw everything you want on a piece of paper given enough practice.

And you don't need to have michelangelo levels of skill to make art.
Mark Schultz, Matt Groening, Bill Waterson... There's lots of artists who don't focus on hiperrealistic or extremely skillfull artwork.

That's why the discussiona about 'gatekeeping' is stupid and come from a place of self inflicted resentment

[🍋 Lemonfed 🍋]

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all you need to have to do art is a pen and a piece of paper , you can already draw everything you want on a piece of paper given enough practice.

And you don't need to have michelangelo levels of skill to make art.
Mark Schultz, Matt Groening, Bill Waterson... There's lots of artists who don't focus on hiperrealistic or extremely skillfull artwork.

That's why the discussiona about 'gatekeeping' is stupid and come from a place of self inflicted resentment

yes , most cartoons and tv shows like the simpsons have characters which are all designed in ways that make them as much easy to draw as possible and it doesn't prevent them from becoming popular.

the very simple way that some characters are drawn is exactly what give them the charm they have.

even Japanese slice of life series sometime use simplistic chibi design that just fit the story telling in the best way possible.

[kingjames488]

be like...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfJ-oDzEvLg

[The nameless Gamer]

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The main problem is that artists put every single detail into their art with a PURPOSE. AI just randomly cobbles assets together. I am not an artist, but when I am drawing, everything in my drawings is a part of a composition. Every element and detail on a drawing has a purpose, down to the last dot. That's not the case with AI. That's what makes AI "art" so appalling. There are way too many small details out of place. And that's being generous and ignoring the extra fingers and awfully mangled hands drawn by the AI.

so what AI is producing isn't art, it's a generated image.

what's the problem then? you can keep your fancy over-priced "art".

The problem are people ignorant enough to call AI-generated images and music "art". I don't have a problem with it now , but I don't like the amount of AI-generated swill starting to cover up everything in the same manner political spam covers every other topic on this forum. Man-made art is rapidly losing visibility to AI-generated low-quality content. I think my stance on AI-generated content is by now pretty clear.

[L9 dorothea]

its honestly ruining the internet. the internet used to have so many images and information about the real world but AI is poisoning the well so while before we had to worry about online vandalism and misinformation but now we have to deal with companies using AI to spread purposely fake content to every corner on the internet. politicians are already using AI as weapons in their campaigns

[Michanicks]

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its honestly ruining the internet. the internet used to have so many images and information about the real world but AI is poisoning the well so while before we had to worry about online vandalism and misinformation but now we have to deal with companies using AI to spread purposely fake content to every corner on the internet. politicians are already using AI as weapons in their campaigns

Dead Internet theory comes true.

[Tito Shivan]

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its honestly ruining the internet. the internet used to have so many images and information about the real world but AI is poisoning the well so while before we had to worry about online vandalism and misinformation but now we have to deal with companies using AI to spread purposely fake content to every corner on the internet. politicians are already using AI as weapons in their campaigns

Dead Internet theory comes true.

Have you looked at the engagement farming bots in FB all posting more and more deranged AI pictures and all liking each others 'artworks'?

[Michanicks]

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Dead Internet theory comes true.

Have you looked at the engagement farming bots in FB all posting more and more deranged AI pictures and all liking each others 'artworks'?

No, but it wouldn't be surprising. This is so called progress that makes our lives better. Just after the deepfakes, bots which are now easier to set up than ever and increased amount of self sustained misinformation.