Im so sick and tired of greedy artists trying to halt AI Art

[Millennial_KiwiGamer]

AI Art is the ultimate equalizer in the sense that it allows anyone to put in a description of what they want and then they get that, or something near enough.

It's fantastic for users. It gets rid of needing to commission every little thing saving $$ for the average bob. Not everyone is made of money to be paying artists tons of money for a picture that might take days to make when you can just roll the generator a few times and get something of equal if not better quality than the artist themselves.

The "compromise" argument is also hilarious. Anyone who pays an artist OR uses a generator is compromising because they're relying on a third party to make their vision.

AI Art Good. Greedy Artist bad. :)

[Millennial_KiwiGamer]

Първоначално публикувано от Phirestar:

I hate the fact that AI art has gotten me to the point of questioning every piece of high-quality artwork.

Every time I see something that looks exceptionally well made, I’m just like, “Okay, is this legitimate or did this get made with AI? Does the character have the right number of fingers? Are any of the fingers behind the wrist? Is there a part of the image where there are no discernible shapes, where you can’t tell what you’re looking at?”

It must really suck to be a professional digital artist that draws in a highly realistic artsyle, at this point in time. You don’t really deal with this sort of problem nearly as much when it comes to more cartoon-y styles, or traditional mediums like pencil or canvas paintings.

Who cares if its AI Generated or not? This is like the BBL Argument.. you're gonna hit it whether its natural or not if its offered to you.

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

Първоначално публикувано от Lord_Dweedle:

Първоначално публикувано от Shizune:

Okay but thats you actually having a hand in it Angel, you actually have a part in it, the machines that just run without an artist are just greedy people not wanting to pay.

Hell in this situation I respect you for at least saying that you have an AI art tech side because that still implies (TO ME) that you have a hand in art, and as one that loves graphic artists I got no issue with this.

Greedy people not wanting to pay... coming from a Greedy artist angry that their Greed is being circumvented.

So yes, you struggle with English entirely and have no idea how I said "I love graphic artists" and didnt say "I am a graphic artist" but once more I'm not shocked at how low ball your bait is, dont worry I'll see myself out as I can see this topic going into the bin soon by other OT members anyways.

[Millennial_KiwiGamer]

Seeing artists, who used to be among the most innovative demographics of the population, turn into luddites overnight is hilarious, tragic and demoralising for society.

[Phirestar]

If you guys want a great example of fake art:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2950283494
Things to note:
1. The blatantly copy-pasted background. “Oh yeah, two fires that’re nearly identical with two separate staircases next to them. This definitely looks legit.”
2. Her pinky finger reaching as far back as time of Artorias.
3. Her thumb physically fused into the fabric of her clothing.

Also, I just want to point out her neck. What the hell is that supporting? She’s got a PVC pipe for a throat. Even if this was actual art made by a human being instead of an algorithm, that would still be a criticism.

Learn2anatomy, AI artists.

[Swarmfly]

Is nothing sacred anymore?

[TWPanda77]

I think that it is important to remember that AI is generated from data analysis and algorithms. There is no consciousness or subjective experiences involved, so it is probably fair to say that AI generated art is complimentary to human created art rather than a replacement.

I am not sure that an AI created artwork will have the same meaning, emotion, or cultural significance as human created art though.

[Phirestar]

Първоначално публикувано от TWPanda77:

I think that it is important to remember that AI is generated from data analysis and algorithms. There is no consciousness or subjective experiences involved, so it is probably fair to say that AI generated art is complimentary to human created art rather than a replacement.

I am not sure that an AI created artwork will have the same meaning, emotion, or cultural significance as human created art though.

True.

And also another aspect that AI art lacks: the inherent value of the time and effort that went into creating it. People have a deep appreciation for a person willing to dedicating hours of their life into creating a work of art. They respect the challenges and struggles that the artist overcame in the process of creating it, as well as the years of investment into perfecting their craft that allowed them to reach that point where it was possible for them to make something like that.

AI does not and can never have that kind of emotional impact. The AI is just a program that’s designed to do exactly what it is programmed to do. People might have respect for the efforts of the developers that went into creating the AI, but the AI itself and the art that it produces have no value like that of their own.

[Kamiyama]

I wish I could afford a rig just to run stable diffusion 24/7.

*when your so poor you can't afford AI artwork*

[Millennial_KiwiGamer]

Първоначално публикувано от Kamiyama:

I wish I could afford a rig just to run stable diffusion 24/7.

*when your so poor you can't afford AI artwork*

Heh

[LeviathanWon]

AI art good, when AI signs it as my original work and makes me all the money.... cause I mean, has AI learned that it doesn't need money yet?

[Under there]

Първоначално публикувано от Phirestar:

If you guys want a great example of fake art:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2950283494
Things to note:
1. The blatantly copy-pasted background. “Oh yeah, two fires that’re nearly identical with two separate staircases next to them. This definitely looks legit.”
2. Her pinky finger reaching as far back as time of Artorias.
3. Her thumb physically fused into the fabric of her clothing.

Also, I just want to point out her neck. What the hell is that supporting? She’s got a PVC pipe for a throat. Even if this was actual art made by a human being instead of an algorithm, that would still be a criticism.

Learn2anatomy, AI artists.

lmao the seething
80% of artists can't do hands, feet, necks, or just general anatomy either

[Tito Shivan]

Първоначално публикувано от Lord_Dweedle:

AI Art is the ultimate equalizer

"I own a DSLR, who's the photographer now?"

That's how it sounds.

Първоначално публикувано от seven7:

Not everyone is made of money to be paying artists tons of money for a picture that might take days to make when you can just roll the generator a few times and get something of equal if not better quality than the artist themselves.

It's going to be fun in the future when the 'inbreeding' of AIs start to happen, when all that's left to consume into a dataset is another AI artwork...

Първоначално публикувано от Lord_Dweedle:

Seeing artists, who used to be among the most innovative demographics of the population, turn into luddites overnight is hilarious.

They're not being luddites though. They're for the most part angry at someone actually stealing their work to build their AIs and make money off it.

There's going to be an interesting legal development in regards data models and copyright law in the following years. Tribunals already have ruled AI artworks cannot be copyrighted. And that's not getting into how where and with which permissions many of the data models were 'trained'.

[Kamiyama]

Първоначално публикувано от LeviathanWon:

AI art good, when AI signs it as my original work and makes me all the money.... cause I mean, has AI learned that it doesn't need money yet?

No don't make money part of its reward function!

https://youtu.be/92qDfT8pENs

This will happen:

https://youtu.be/vAvGKfaO3os

[Siluva]

Well, I can understand why not everyone want to throw money into digital pictures, but It's also important to understand that art take time and talent, and time is money.

Imo it's just about balance, and using well the tool that AI art is.
I still have a preference for "traditional / handmade" art.

[Angel]

I always like to compare AI with technology through history as the pattern hosts similarities. It is like film cameras that got overrun by digital photography, knitting needles with linen machines, pen and paper with computers or hand prints with printing press (with internet).