Im so sick and tired of greedy artists trying to halt AI Art

[Millennial_KiwiGamer]

AI Art is the ultimate equalizer in the sense that it allows anyone to put in a description of what they want and then they get that, or something near enough.

It's fantastic for users. It gets rid of needing to commission every little thing saving $$ for the average bob. Not everyone is made of money to be paying artists tons of money for a picture that might take days to make when you can just roll the generator a few times and get something of equal if not better quality than the artist themselves.

The "compromise" argument is also hilarious. Anyone who pays an artist OR uses a generator is compromising because they're relying on a third party to make their vision.

AI Art Good. Greedy Artist bad. :)

[Nuriyokan]

Автор сообщения: Lord_Dweedle

LOL Don't bring the "AI doesnt threaten OPs living" argument into this. AI and automation have been creeping into my living for years. It's actually fun watching it happen to a bunch of greedy artists who thought they couldn't be touched. :special:

The fact so many "artists" see art as a product or a "luxury" (lol) is hilarious.

AI will dominate the art space. And the art space will be better for it. Machine learning is the future. Hell, we'll have more unique art with AI not furry daddys or sonic NSFW's clogging up the space.

you have no idea what you're talking about . AI art isn't dooming , or dominating anything . That's fear mongering by certain individuals just to get others invested in AI as a whole . AI art generators have been around and artists are still going strong and making money and being successful. Don't listen what the average youtuber is just repeating . Its not what you think at all. So many people have told me to give up because its the end and i just laugh. I know better than that . The funny thing is the copyright office updated copyright laws and now many AI users are complaining because they still can't just copyright AI generated art the same way a person can copyright their own characters . Even if they generate something they have to change it AND they can only copyright the portions that they changed . So you can't take a famous artwork and change the nose then copyright the entire image . You'd only own the rights to the nose .

AI as a whole is being regulated on a massive scale due to all the crime of cloning AI voices and commitment of fraud. People suing over deepfakes ... hell even your own gov officials are afraid of the deepfakes . You have the rich being scared of some of the ways this technology is being used. Counter AI is being developed and has been developed . So yes its here to stay but its not going to replace human artists and even the industry has admitted that . They still need human artists because their are things AI just simply can't do . Its already advanced to the point of copying the best of us but that's it. You will never dominate the industry just by making good looking pictures. That isn't enough and that's where humans come in . So many AI art users are upset because still to this day human artist get more engagement than any AI artist. The AI artists that do get engagement ? They were already a human artist first with a big following who used the AI as a tool to help them as they do both and work on multiple projects .

The " get rich quick tech bro " person who just wants to get rich fast ins't going to succeed just by generating images and posting them online . Take a look at any platform where AI art is rampant . Now look at the engagement they get .... its dead ..... why ? I thought all you needed to do what just generate images and you'd be rolling in dolla dolla bills yall ? What happened ? I thought it " was so easy a cave man could do it " . Its a lot more to it than that . AI artist are mainly just the some crowd of people who got into NFT's and Crypto. They want to get rich quick and many of them are mad because they generated the images , posted thousands of them online but get no traction other than views . They then see human artists doing well and then get mad and make posts like this or comments like yours . " It's going to replace you artist and I'm so happy " LMFAO the type of bold statments they leave are hilarious .

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

Автор сообщения: Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at 🃏

Автор сообщения: Shizune

And idk you people, but I will never trust an AI pilot of a large aircraft, an AI captain of a ship with over 50 people and for sure as hell I'd never trust an AI space crew, paging HAL 9000

Автор сообщения: CaptainG

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those are the future tho, AI will be in airplanes and ships sooner than most people expect, they make way more sense than humans in these areas since they are able to communicate automatically which is at the moment the main task of humans in those professions

They're the present actually. You're a bit behind if you think that A.I. in aircraft is the future.

I said with over 50 people, basically passenger planes and what have you, I'm aware drones and even some AI jetfighters exist, including tanks as well now thinking about it, but when I have to note that two of the best aircraft crash-landings with 0 fatalities, the Hudson River and the Gemlie Glider, were done after their aircrafts lost power, your looking at a jumbo-jet speeding toward the ground with no emergency means to land because the AI was turned off.

[Vinegaroon]

I’m sure the artist who put their hard work, love, and energy into a piece really appreciate ai copying their style by pulling from their work.

[Vinegaroon]

Автор сообщения: Kiddiec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at 🃏

Автор сообщения: Vinegaroon

I’m sure the artist who put their hard work, love, and energy into a piece really appreciate ai copying their style by pulling from their work.

Copying & pulling from aren't the same thing.

This addresses the difference :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVcsDDABEkM
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/12/3729575042628880226/?ctp=3#c3729575042630627043

No doubt, there have been cases of it being trained to copy individual artists or even the look and sound of real people, and that's probably bad. In the art-world, copying like this has been around forever and it has a term known as "emulation" (not the video game kind), and a French art movement known as "trompe l'oeil", but now an A.I. can do it faster and better.

This is merely a method of creation, so by itself it's not bad until it's used for things like targeting specific artists and putting them out of work or creating fake evidence.

If the artist were compensated for the percentage of the work the AI pulled from I see no problem with it. It will come regardless that’s how I would handle it. Then Artist can at least and their work would actually mean something as they have a style so to speak and everyone gets their cheap pictures.

At least in a perfect world…

[Nuriyokan]

OP is such a hater it makes no sense . lmfao this post is straight clownery at its finest . Like the amount of jealousy when you go back and read this post ... its actually funny but hey people are entitled to their opinion and you can't knock people for having them even if they're really bad opinions . However the tone ..... my god lol .

oh my god even the hypocrisy of the 2nd paragraph " Not everyone is made of money to be paying artists tons of money for a picture " 1 the ignorace , 2, the arrogance , 3 the lack of knowledge of how art even works lol what ? He has no idea .... oh my god ...this is extremely laughable . So not everyone has money to be paying us for a picture but .... they should pay you for one ? lmfao hahahhahah what a clown . He ended it off with AI artist good , Greedy artists bad ....... Any human artist who's been doing art will crack up laughing at this post .

He's still trying to fight a war that was won before it even started . The only thing this post is saying is that OP is jealous . How on earth are you sick of artists when you use a tool that relies on their work ? You don't even do anything the algorithm does it for you . Even still the fact that you think AI generators are the " Equalizer " to human artist ..... hahhahahhahahha oh my god . Dude .... you can't copyright the stuff you make unless you become an artists and change it . That's what people will do in the industry. The industry even still needs human art. Its not going anywhere at all. Human artists are still thriving but the same can't be said for people who just randomly generate 1000 images online .

Most of what you see online is people who use AI generators getting mad because some human artist is doing better . OP sounds as if they have no idea about art itself and don't even care . You won't have success like that even with an AI art generator . The real reason OP is mad is because they're not having the Success they thought they'd have with an AI generator and are jealous of people who actually hone their skills and work on their craft. IF OP was making money and having tons of success they'd be way to happy to be angry at other human artists .....

This post is downright hilarious .

[L9 dorothea]

Автор сообщения: Angel

I always like to compare AI with technology through history as the pattern hosts similarities. It is like film cameras that got overrun by digital photography, knitting needles with linen machines, pen and paper with computers or hand prints with printing press (with internet).

that just doesnt hold up though. more advanced ways of making art isnt comparable to getting a robot to replacing the artist. with a drawing tablet theres still an artist and pen and paper isnt obsolete. ai art server no purpose but to remove the human

[PwnyHipster]

AI "art" is soulless trash its made looking for good art online so much more difficult than it used to be. I can't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stand looking at that generated slop anymore.

[ktulu84]

AI isnt art, they are just AI generated images and they dont carry any artistic value

[Schamyl006]

It produced with a click lol ai generated art shouldn't be valuable

[Devsman]

Автор сообщения: Schamyl006

It produced with a click lol ai generated art shouldn't be valuable

No art should be valuable.

[Michanicks]

Автор сообщения: Devsman

Автор сообщения: Schamyl006

It produced with a click lol ai generated art shouldn't be valuable

No art should be valuable.

People decide how much they value art for themselves, not because there is some rule about what should be valuable and what not.

[Acetyl]

I haven't really checked out stable diffusion etc yet. I used NNEDI3 for field interpolation bck in the day, and it (along with QTGMC) were considered the best for this task and deinterlacing etc. Recently I've been using ESRGAN and have found some of the jpeg artifact models are pretty near perfect, automatic and better than anything I've used in the past. Used to use the "shape adpative DCT" plugin for photoshop, but the results weren't nearly as good.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Автор сообщения: Devsman

Автор сообщения: Schamyl006

It produced with a click lol ai generated art shouldn't be valuable

No art should be valuable.

So people shouldn't be paid for their work?

[Michanicks]

Автор сообщения: SlowMango

Автор сообщения: Devsman

No art should be valuable.

So people shouldn't be paid for their work?

Business-wise, art is a luxury, so people paying for it regardles if it will make their lives directly better and prettyness of the picture is not the most important part.

But for artist of passion, money is merely a question of survival, without that issue they would draw no matter what, just for the sake of it, just for the process, for the art, because they just unable to NOT draw, even if they will not get a single penny for their work.

[Devsman]

Автор сообщения: SlowMango

Автор сообщения: Devsman

No art should be valuable.

So people shouldn't be paid for their work?

It shouldn't be considered work. It should be a creative pursuit.