Opinions about ANTIFA

[Nekoborg]

Challenge your creative writing skills by stating your opinion in a political correct way. This means without being abusive, prejudged, or bigoted against "peaceful" organisations seeking social justice for marginalised communities and protected groups.

Abusive comments will not be tolerated

[Dom]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von GoreTiger:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dom:

No they wouldn't. No one who has any political power has suggested labeling republicans or MAGA as terrorists.

The terrorist nonsense talk is only practiced by some radical individuals who have no understanding what free speech is, and want to turn USA into China or North Korea.

Not only are you wrong, But no where in my original statement did I list "people of political power"
https://journal-neo.org/2021/01/27/conservative-americans-now-labeled-domestic-terrorists/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2022/05/04/biden-labels-maga-crowd-the-most-extreme-political-organization-in-us-history/?sh=7aa741419a91
But since you mention political power, Politicians do fall under the labels I did mention, and my main point was that labeling people like what the OP I quoted suggested can lead to political abuse, Like what's going on today with all the "racism" and "white suppremecist" labeling.

If liberals wanted to label "republicans/conservatives/Maga people" as terrorists, surely there would be at least some of their representatives with political power, pushing this kind of idea? Where are they? Cannot be seen.

Your first link is Russian disinformation (journal neo). It's run by Kremlin.
Second news link; 'extreme' is not the same as terrorist, and attempting to draw such links would be brutally dishonest.

[Grimmz]

from what i've seen and experienced about antifa in my country is that they're not very true to themselves as i understand antifa means ''anti fascism'' ? often times they're the ones being fascist. they scream and chant, refuse to listen to any other idea than their own.
they also wear masks and break people's property.

i've been to a couple antifa marches and seen them suppress the counter protesters by shouting in megaphones, breaking their signs and blocking their movement. they're committing fascism to drive their ideology of anti fascism? to me they just look like a bunch of anarchists looking to fight and cause mayhem. i really don't see any message they're trying to send.

[Q-T_3.14.exe]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Engage:

Banning anything means no freedom, you are all hypocritical.

What about me?

[GoreTiger]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dom:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von GoreTiger:

Not only are you wrong, But no where in my original statement did I list "people of political power"
https://journal-neo.org/2021/01/27/conservative-americans-now-labeled-domestic-terrorists/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2022/05/04/biden-labels-maga-crowd-the-most-extreme-political-organization-in-us-history/?sh=7aa741419a91
But since you mention political power, Politicians do fall under the labels I did mention, and my main point was that labeling people like what the OP I quoted suggested can lead to political abuse, Like what's going on today with all the "racism" and "white suppremecist" labeling.

If liberals wanted to label "republicans/conservatives/Maga people" as terrorists, surely there would be at least some of their representatives with political power, pushing this kind of idea? Where are they? Cannot be seen.

Your first link is Russian disinformation (journal neo). It's run by Kremlin.
Second news link; 'extreme' is not the same as terrorist, and attempting to draw such links would be brutally dishonest.

There are, They just don't just outright say it. That's how politics work. They tiptoe around things while doing everything behind the scenes. Gabbard wanred about it when she said that she wanted to switch parties.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/tyler-o-neil/2021/01/24/gabbard-democrats-anti-terror-bill-may-target-almost-half-the-country-n1408166
This link is mostly agenda-filled but it does have quotes from democrat politicians towards what you're claiming they'd say. Biggest difference? They don't say terrorists, they call them "insurrectionists" officially while democrat voters try to label them domestic terrorists.
https://thefederalist.com/2022/01/14/the-biden-administration-isnt-even-hiding-its-designation-of-mainstream-americans-as-domestic-terrorists/

One thing that's almost textbook about the Democratic party is they love to hide things in a bill that has absolutely nothing to do with what they really want to do. It's kind of like Antifa in America, They hide behind the name because most of their voters only pay attention to the name and that's it.
They could introduce a bill that says "Feed all the homeless kids" and inside this bill is a little clause like funding the cia 20 million dollars to run illegal weapons to drug cartels(heh). Their voters won't care about that because the title makes them think the bill is actually going towards a good cause. Deceitful stuff like this is how the Democrats have secured most of their funding.

[Dom]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von GoreTiger:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dom:

If liberals wanted to label "republicans/conservatives/Maga people" as terrorists, surely there would be at least some of their representatives with political power, pushing this kind of idea? Where are they? Cannot be seen.

Your first link is Russian disinformation (journal neo). It's run by Kremlin.
Second news link; 'extreme' is not the same as terrorist, and attempting to draw such links would be brutally dishonest.

There are, They just don't just outright say it. That's how politics work. They tiptoe around things while doing everything behind the scenes. Gabbard wanred about it when she said that she wanted to switch parties.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/tyler-o-neil/2021/01/24/gabbard-democrats-anti-terror-bill-may-target-almost-half-the-country-n1408166
This link is mostly agenda-filled but it does have quotes from democrat politicians towards what you're claiming they'd say. Biggest difference? They don't say terrorists, they call them "insurrectionists" officially while democrat voters try to label them domestic terrorists.
https://thefederalist.com/2022/01/14/the-biden-administration-isnt-even-hiding-its-designation-of-mainstream-americans-as-domestic-terrorists/

One thing that's almost textbook about the Democratic party is they love to hide things in a bill that has absolutely nothing to do with what they really want to do. It's kind of like Antifa in America, They hide behind the name because most of their voters only pay attention to the name and that's it.
They could introduce a bill that says "Feed all the homeless kids" and inside this bill is a little clause like funding the cia 20 million dollars to run illegal weapons to drug cartels(heh). Their voters won't care about that because the title makes them think the bill is actually going towards a good cause. Deceitful stuff like this is how the Democrats have secured most of their funding.

They don't outright say it because that's not what they aim to do, at all. If you've listened to what Biden has said, he has spoken about MAGA Republicans and even further clarified that he refers to people who buy into the stolen election lies, and that particular movement only. The type of people who actually supported the damages suffered on Jan 6th.

He is not talking about Republicans outside that specific circle, and he has even co-operated with those Republicans who are not part of that bandwagon.

It's pretty clear that those who do buy into those election lies; in other words those Biden is specifically referring to as 'extreme', would like to gaslight people into thinking that he (or his party) wants to label half the country as domestic terrorists.

If people want to believe in that, it's their choice but the whole notion (as well as the level of self-victimization) is beyond insane there. No amount of actual fact-checking would convince them at that point.

[Ulfrinn]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Grimmz:

from what i've seen and experienced about antifa in my country is that they're not very true to themselves as i understand antifa means ''anti fascism'' ? often times they're the ones being fascist. they scream and chant, refuse to listen to any other idea than their own.
they also wear masks and break people's property.

i've been to a couple antifa marches and seen them suppress the counter protesters by shouting in megaphones, breaking their signs and blocking their movement. they're committing fascism to drive their ideology of anti fascism? to me they just look like a bunch of anarchists looking to fight and cause mayhem. i really don't see any message they're trying to send.

Are they a problem in Finland?

[Nekoborg]

If ANTIFA wants to bring about positive or beneficial changes to society then they might want consider changing tactics that are not destructive to society.

If they were to help those whom they viewed victims in ways that were not destructive to society then they might be seen as the good guys.

As it currently is ANTIFA are not the good guys.

If ANTIFA continues down the path that they are currently on then they will meet an increasing resistance which won't benefit anyone.

I hope some members of ANTIFA change their ways and lead by example so others in ANTIFA can follow.

Are we ready to forgive ANTIFA if they change their ways to helping victims instead of destroy?

[Pierce Dalton]

Tifa is hot. Why would people be against her?

[gugnihr]

I will avoid saying anything political about that, it would take too long, I do not have enough patience and there is something else I want to say instead:

I absolutely HATE whoever it is that started shortening words this way.
"Antifa" sounds horribly stupid. Another example is "aspie" instead of asperger. I just hate whoever started using those words. I feel the need to kill myself whenever I read / hear them. Please stop. If you are anti fascist say that you are anti fascist. If you say that you are antifa then I assume you are against "fa" and I don't know what it is but it sounds horribly stupid.

[ZZZZZ]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von gugnihr:

I will avoid saying anything political about that, it would take too long, I do not have enough patience and there is something else I want to say instead:

I absolutely HATE whoever it is that started shortening words this way.
"Antifa" sounds horribly stupid. Another example is "aspie" instead of asperger. I just hate whoever started using those words. I feel the need to kill myself whenever I read / hear them. Please stop. If you are anti fascist say that you are anti fascist. If you say that you are antifa then I assume you are against "fa" and I don't know what it is but it sounds horribly stupid.

yea also screw those people who use words like US or USA

[Triple G]

Antifa is short for "anti-fascist action". Somehow the term is used widely for anything "left" nowadays, even if it´s not necessarily Antifa. It´s a term from the 80´s to describe movements against fascism and racism - opposed to being simply an anti-fascist, like the allies, or certain organisations, who actively fought against fascism in e.g. WW II, which probably defines being an anti-fascist more than anything else.

Opinion about it? Can´t say much, because so many different people and movements are classified, or call themselves Antifa.

[Alliesaurus]

I don't even know what it means

[Q-T_3.14.exe]

Aren't those the fellas who burned stuff down in the United States three years ago?
That's what me remembers.

[WhiteKnight77]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Q-T_3.14.exe:

Aren't those the fellas who burned stuff down in the United States three years ago?
That's what me remembers.

They are still around, and getting arrested.

[swillfly]

Reggae is da bom-bom mon!