"Stricter gun laws" = NOTHING to do with "banning guns"

[Shodan 2.0]

Just saying, it seems like too many people misunderstand this idea or just misinterpret it on purpose in order to have some "problem" to whine about and a "common enemy" as a manipulation tool or simply just to have more things to whine about.

Anyway, "stricter gun laws" would just make it harder for the wrong people to get access to guns. The people who take away other people's freedom. Without such people having access to guns, everyone else would have more freedom. Freedom to live. Freedom to go anywhere without fear of getting shot.

The problem isn't guns or normal gun owners, it's just the wrong people being able to access them too easily and without even knowing how to use them responsibly.

Stricter gun laws would absolutely not affect all the normal gun owners out there who are the majority, so I don't see what's the problem. You would still have your guns for self-defense just in case because you can never fully get rid of criminals, but you would definitely be less likely to have to use them as a last resort.

See, you can have a gun in Massachusetts just fine:

https://www.mass.gov/info-details/gun-ownership-in-massachusetts

But, because Massachusetts has stricter gun laws, mass shootings (specifically school shootings) there are as nonexistent as in Europe and it's generally one of the best states in terms of safety.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mass_shootings_in_Massachusetts

Just 4 entries here, basically isolated incidents as anywhere else in the world.

Switzerland has a really strong gun culture and plenty of guns, but mass shootings are nonexistent. Go figure. Maybe it's proper regulations, as well as proper education and training?

[Xero_Daxter]

So what do you wanna do with the guns then.....?

[Sir Seanicus, Esq.]

Messaggio originale di Xero_Daxter:

So what do you wanna do with the guns then.....?

Own them and shoot them.

[Xero_Daxter]

Messaggio originale di Sir Seanicus, Esq.:

Messaggio originale di Xero_Daxter:

So what do you wanna do with the guns then.....?

Own them and shoot them.

Fair enough. Now if you excuse me I'm gonna test fire my nuke.

[GloriousZote]

Messaggio originale di Xero_Daxter:

Messaggio originale di Sir Seanicus, Esq.:

Own them and shoot them.

Fair enough. Now if you excuse me I'm gonna test fire my nuke.

Just be sure to harm no-one in the process, dear.
Maybe in space, IDK.

[Kamiyama]

Messaggio originale di Xero_Daxter:

Messaggio originale di Sir Seanicus, Esq.:

Own them and shoot them.

Fair enough. Now if you excuse me I'm gonna test fire my nuke.

Every well-organized militia should be able to purchase a Davy Crockett gun.

[Sir Seanicus, Esq.]

I mean we could own cannons and ♥♥♥♥ back then.

[Chunk Norris ☯]

Messaggio originale di Xero_Daxter:

Messaggio originale di Sir Seanicus, Esq.:

Own them and shoot them.

Fair enough. Now if you excuse me I'm gonna test fire my nuke.

Want your mind blown? Many nuclear power plants are privately owned and HIGHLY regulated, but essentially it has all the materials necessary for a nuclear bomb...in private ownership.

[Fajita Jim]

Messaggio originale di Kamiyama:

The minute men were a militia. They were citizens who owned firearms who showed up to fight an invading army when they were called upon to do so.

They don't necessarily train and drill like the army does.

Like the person above said, the right to own firearms and the right to form a militia are two separate things. They are intertwined, but they are two rights.

Just like the right to freedom of religion, freedom of expression, and freedom of the press are all part of the first amendment.

They are the same right, and was held so until just a few years ago. District of Columbia v. Heller, 2008 if you aren't familiar.

Strange how you folk like the original interpretation of something until it doesn't go your way. As was said earlier:

Messaggio originale di GloriousZote:

the meaning they interpret suits our current situation more.

[WhiteKnight77]

Messaggio originale di Ulfrinn:

Yeah... we all know how disingenuous the left is with their calls for any kind of bill or action. We know all too well that if given an inch, they'll take quite a few miles. So my answer would be no. No new restrictions and in fact, I support significantly fewer ones than we have now. We have laws that were supposed to prevent those "wrong people" from getting them. It's never enforced. New ones don't do anything better. It's all just a bunch of BS to make people feel better without having to tackle the real issues.

It's not going to happen, and that's that.

I want to see a day when having an ID issued by the Department of Homeland Security means that I do not have to jump through any more hoops to buy a firearm. I already passed that background check, and multiple times at that due to my line of work.

[Charles]

Gun control is all about restricting, banning and confiscating guns from responsible law abiding people. It's all done under the guise of safety or the greater good. Also gun control is often discriminatory against poorer people and other minorities. I will never support it.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Messaggio originale di Fajita Jim:

Messaggio originale di GloriousZote:

Yeah, like how people keep misinterpreting the right to bear arms under the modern assumption that "ohh they didn't mean automatic rifles"
Tell you what, the left stops fussing so much about guns, and we'll learn the original meaning of some quotes.

You mean like "a well regulated militia". Sure. Let's go back to that.

Every man must own a gun. Every able-bodied man must drill on Saturdays, 6am sharp. Those who don't show up get scourged.

Also if a house catches on fire and you don't answer the bell and show up for the fire line, we'll hang you. Also beat your wife, but only on the courthouse steps.

By the same logic you are applying to guns, newspapers should only be allowed to distribute on pen and paper. This also means you can't have news channels.

[WhiteKnight77]

Messaggio originale di GloriousZote:

Messaggio originale di Fajita Jim:

You know, that explains so damn much that's wrong right now. smh
Where's the emoji with a gun to it's own head I need that one right now.

Yeah, like how people keep misinterpreting the right to bear arms under the modern assumption that "ohh they didn't mean automatic rifles"
Tell you what, the left stops fussing so much about guns, and we'll learn the original meaning of some quotes.

Actually, people need to learn how to comprehend "the right of the people shall not be infringed" part.

[Fajita Jim]

Messaggio originale di SlowMango:

Messaggio originale di Fajita Jim:

You mean like "a well regulated militia". Sure. Let's go back to that.

Every man must own a gun. Every able-bodied man must drill on Saturdays, 6am sharp. Those who don't show up get scourged.

Also if a house catches on fire and you don't answer the bell and show up for the fire line, we'll hang you. Also beat your wife, but only on the courthouse steps.

By the same logic you are applying to guns, newspapers should only be allowed to distribute on pen and paper. This also means you can't have news channels.

If that's the world they want to go back to, we should give them Texas. For the rest of us, progress includes law.

[Fajita Jim]

Messaggio originale di WhiteKnight77:

Actually, people need to learn how to comprehend "the right of the people shall not be infringed" part.

You're forgetting like half that sentence, dude.

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

it honestly is a slippery slope no matter the issue

guns, laws, even mcdonald's breakfast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F03NgeTz7QY

just wanted to plug this ♥♥♥♥ here funny ♥♥♥♥




anyhow know one thing that banning stuff =/= 100% compliance and it won't 100% come back to bite you in the ass.

Guns are one of the main basis of freedom especially in America. AKA the country founded when the brits tried to come and take our guns. Even more so it would be a death sentence since the new world was wild with ♥♥♥♥ that could kill you. Indians, wild animals, and whatever else was out there. Same with taxes (yeah ♥♥♥♥ Ukraine and Isreal spending billions of trillions and we can't even focus on our own home turf)