Will China Rule The World?

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Why is the United States afraid of China?

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Things are getting so bad in the States, Mexico is building a wall to keep us out.

[Ganger]

Originalmente postado por ////:

"crazy" is synonymous with telling communists to ♥♥♥♥ off. or so communists want everyone to believe.

I can't get my head around it, the united states is willing to start a war with china to protect taiwan while at the same time doesn't officially recognise taiwan as a independent state but still does trade and dealing with both. Geo-politics at it's finest.

[Lora Grim]

No. I don't think China is strong enough to rule anything other than themselves right now.
As for America being afraid? Ofc it is. America will be afraid to lose any ounce of power, be it big or small.
They want American influence to remain dominant, which is ultimately why TikTok is viewed as a threat. America wants to have absolute authority over social media.

[Ganger]

Originalmente postado por Lora Grim:

No. I don't think China is strong enough to rule anything other than themselves right now.
As for America being afraid? Ofc it is. America will be afraid to lose any ounce of power, be it big or small.
They want American influence to remain dominant, which is ultimately why TikTok is viewed as a threat. America wants to have absolute authority over social media.

I can only guess this is what the British must of felt like when america was rising on the global stage in the 20's, 30's and 40's until the fall of the british empire.

I have watched interviews with people who were born during the time of empire talking about how proud and arrogant they were and totally believed the british empire would never die and it was a massive shock for them when the empire started collapsing.

[mr_raze]

Originalmente postado por Ganger:

Originalmente postado por ////:

"crazy" is synonymous with telling communists to ♥♥♥♥ off. or so communists want everyone to believe.

I can't get my head around it, the united states is willing to start a war with china to protect taiwan while at the same time doesn't officially recognise taiwan as a independent state but still does trade and dealing with both. Geo-politics at it's finest.

The US not recognizing Taiwan as an independent state was a diplomatic favor to China, but staying neutral is about to end. If China invades Taiwan, then it's not the US who is starting a war.

[ice]

Originalmente postado por LilBlkCloud:

Originalmente postado por mr_raze:

China has a history of defeat. They have never won a war. They come out every few 100 years to try and dominate the world, which always ends in their humiliation. Why can't this country of "geniuses" ever make anything that doesn't break in ten minutes?

It's that "history of defeat" that made them what they are now, and they are perfectly suited for war in the twenty-first century, which is 1000 times more nuanced and complex than any era previous. The fact that you don't see that China building economic superiority on crappy products is testament to that, and hard indication they've long outsmarted you.

Why would you waste your time and resources designing and engineering robust products if you can instead make them cheaply and saturate every market with your trash?

The genius isn't in their product design, it's in how they have your entire family and neighbors clamoring to buy more of their sh!t on Amazon instead of buying American, or wherever it is you come from, and that they spent/spend what amounts to peanuts doing it.

People can't even tell theyre buying chinese pseudobrands.

No, lady your Agmibrelr brand "dress" is not "imported" from France. The trademark is owned by an individual in Zhengzhou, China and you're wearing something made in a sweatshop.

Jeff Bezos has a responsibility he's not fulfilling, props to him though for being the richest person in the world. I still have respect for him.

[Ganger]

Originalmente postado por DJ_ic3:

People can't even tell theyre buying chinese pseudobrands.

No, lady your Agmibrelr brand "dress" is not "imported" from France. The trademark is owned by an individual in Zhengzhou, China and you're wearing something made in a sweatshop.

Jeff Bezos has a responsibility he's not fulfilling, props to him though for being the richest person in the world, though. I still have respect for him.

Let's say, even if a shop has two sides, one side with products made in china and american made products on the other side. The cost difference will be massive between items made in china and made in america.

Answer truthfully.... If your struggling to even afford to pay rent and put food on the table for your kids, would you really pay double or triple the price to buy the same product that is made in america ?

For a rich person, the answer is simple.. buy american. But for most families they isn't really a choice. This is the reality for most of us.

When I visited america last year, I bought american flag and guess what, it was made in china. The stars and stripes made in china, tells you something.

[mr_raze]

Originalmente postado por Heretic:

Originalmente postado por mr_raze:

The US not recognizing Taiwan as an independent state was a diplomatic favor to China, but staying neutral is about to end. If China invades Taiwan, then it's not the US who is starting a war.

Other than Ireland, does America have anyone left to depend on?

Depend on for what? If you mean the upcoming war on China, then the countries of India, Taiwan, Japan, Israel, and most of Europe are dependable.

[ice]

Originalmente postado por Ganger:

Originalmente postado por DJ_ic3:

People can't even tell theyre buying chinese pseudobrands.

No, lady your Agmibrelr brand "dress" is not "imported" from France. The trademark is owned by an individual in Zhengzhou, China and you're wearing something made in a sweatshop.

Jeff Bezos has a responsibility he's not fulfilling, props to him though for being the richest person in the world, though. I still have respect for him.

Let's say, even if a shop has two sides, one side with products made in china and american made products on the other side. The cost difference will be massive between items made in china and made in america.

Answer truthfully.... If your struggling to even afford to pay rent and put food on the table for your kids, would you really pay double or triple the price to buy the same product that is made in america ?

For a rich person, the answer is simple.. buy american. But for most families they isn't really a choice. This is the reality for most of us.

When I visited america last year, I bought american flag and guess what, it was made in china. The stars and stripes made in china, tells you something.

Coincidentally, those chinese products dominate the "Frequently Repurchased" category. This is a longstanding issue that's actually a vicious cycle. It's too late, but yes you are right. Part of the "buy american" manifesto is also corporate greed cashing in on people who will shell out more money for something made in the usa with materials from china thinking they are doing good for the country.

Were at the point where it's a full time job if you want to only buy american with american made materials from an american company. Not only does it take too much money, but effort as well.

Buying american vs. chinese isn't going to change anything. Our government knows this, that's why taxes and rates get raised, price index goes up, why -> defense/military spending. why -> government knows they cant rely on their citizens to make sound decisions for the greater good of the country for whatever reason that may be. why -> See Tiktok. Google MI6 FBI director China https://www.mi5.gov.uk/news/speech-by-mi5-and-fbi

[EpirusWarriorμολὼνλαβέ]

Wrong question as many factors play in geopolitics and economy.

One scope of China they aiming now with Russia, and the OPEC Cycle:

https://www.proquest.com/docview/2178206412?pq-origsite=gscholar&fromopenview=true

https://www.cambridge.org/core/elements/can-brics-dedollarize-the-global-financial-system/0AEF98D2F232072409E9556620AE09B0

[EpirusWarriorμολὼνλαβέ]

Originalmente postado por Heretic:

Originalmente postado por mr_raze:

Depend on for what? If you mean the upcoming war on China, then the countries of India, Taiwan, Japan, Israel, and most of Europe are dependable.

India has a historic connection to China and is itself a growing economy. There's nothing in it for them. Japan gave up on their military long ago, so can only offer a bit of moral support.

Most of Europe have little military on offer. The main power is France and the UK, who the US have crapped all over, and neither of those countries want a war against China. Germany will probably support China.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-09/macron-says-europe-must-develop-its-own-autonomy-separate-from-us


Let me fix it for you they wont support American Neocons wars.


https://www.cato.org/commentary/dangerous-democrats-push-confrontational-policies-toward-russia-china#

[mr_raze]

Originalmente postado por Heretic:

Originalmente postado por mr_raze:

Depend on for what? If you mean the upcoming war on China, then the countries of India, Taiwan, Japan, Israel, and most of Europe are dependable.

India has a historic connection to China and is itself a growing economy. There's nothing in it for them. Japan gave up on their military long ago, so can only offer a bit of moral support. Israel has their own problems and will not engage in an American war against China.

Most of Europe have little military on offer. The main power is France and the UK, who the US have crapped all over, and neither of those countries want a war against China. Germany will probably support China.

In their new $320 billion military expansion plan, Japan is buying missiles that can strike China. They are preparing for a sustained conflict and they are on track to becoming the world's third largest military spender within five years.

India doesn't have to fight in the war. Simply being next to China is enough of a deterrent. China has to devote resources to guard against India at their border. The armies of India and China have been skirmishing day after day for years. India also provides weapons to Taiwan.

The UK has the biggest military in Europe, and they would never choose China over USA. Why would Germany choose China over USA? All of Europe, with the exception of France, knows that after China invades Taiwan, their countries are next.

[EpirusWarriorμολὼνλαβέ]

Originalmente postado por mr_raze:

Originalmente postado por Heretic:

India has a historic connection to China and is itself a growing economy. There's nothing in it for them. Japan gave up on their military long ago, so can only offer a bit of moral support. Israel has their own problems and will not engage in an American war against China.

Most of Europe have little military on offer. The main power is France and the UK, who the US have crapped all over, and neither of those countries want a war against China. Germany will probably support China.

In their new $320 billion military expansion plan, Japan is buying missiles that can strike mainland China. They are preparing for a sustained conflict and they are on track to becoming the world's third largest spender of military in five years.

India doesn't have to fight in the war. Simply being next to China is enough of a deterrent. China has to devote resources to guard against India at their border. The armies of India and China have been skirmishing day after day for years. India also provides weapons to Taiwan.

The UK has the biggest military in Europe, and they would never choose China over USA.

Things are way more complicated than what you make.

Let me put some very basic points:
India is part of BRICS as well and wont risk anything because has economic ties to their OPEC and BRIC as well geopolitical with in BRICS. They maintain a netural stance for a reason while they have had ally USA before. If they get in they get in anyway they deep water both economically and in geoplitics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS


Japan is next to China is buying for own defense, and has no desire to meddle because its economy and country would go in deep waters:

look at abe shinso past policy

https://www.cfr.org/blog/shinzo-abe-transformed-japans-relationship-taiwan-counter-threats-china


Thats what japan policy is geared toward in general terms no matter who gets in.


EU wants out and many want a third tripolar and not a unipolar world, beside BRIC, and USA:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-09/macron-says-europe-must-develop-its-own-autonomy-separate-from-us


If they dont distance, they face recession.


The only left from that list is UK, because UK has more ties to USA, but if they go in they face recesson as well which will end bad for whoever party is in power.

[Kamiyama]

Evergrande hasn't collapsed yet.

But FTX and Credit Suisse have.

I don't give the USA favorable odds in a USA versus China conflict.

I've always been told that we were stronger, but our people also lie to us every day. I know that I've been exposed to propaganda - some of it I'm aware of, some of it I'm not.

It might turn out that China has a more durable economy than what I've been led to believe, and the USA is in fact a banana republic.

^ That last part wasn't a question. The USA is a banana republic. I just don't have an accurate take on China.

[Rhila]

China will rule half the world.