There is no PvP multiplayer games to play

[itzDerrio]

The most popular PvP games are either (old) battle royale games, or very old games coasting as "live service" . the most played (pvp) games on steam and xbox/ps are old games

[SHAZBOT]

sea of thieves---- adds some interesting pvp dynamics. shoot self out of canon, swords, ect..

palwprld----. the new and improved ark/no mans sky? im finding out tonight

battlebit remastered----. 254 player servers battlefield, less graphics. its too bad it looks like another steam early access abandonment project.

[itzDerrio]

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multiplayer games are anything but brainless, you’re literally competing with other players, and it isn’t easy to win unlike single player games that give you the win and holds your hand at your own pace . seriously calling multiplayers brainless when you have AAA garbage like interactive movies and characters telling you how to solve rudimentary puzzles is a joke.

“well crafted” lmao , cyberpunk took years after release to play

There are some quite nice multiplayer games, I have no problem with them but they are not the pinnacle of games. And if you want to pick a single example of a single player game? Well that's great. Should I pick an example of a multiplayer game to criticise? And yes, I count multiplayer action FPS games as brainless. You'll note I didn't say they didn't require skill. I prefer singleplayer games most of the time. When I'm playing Elden Ring I don't avoid invasions because I'm bad at them. I win some, I lose some. I avoid them because no matter whether I win or lose my reaction is "Finally that's over, I can get back to the game now"

I will take a nice beefy 80 hour RPG over Call of Duty any day. A game set in a abandoned house and I have to piece together what happened? That's awesome. A grand strategy game where I'm guiding generations of a family dynasty in an attempt to better our situation. Perfect. And some of these can be multiplayer, that's not the point. I'm not AGAINST multiplayer but multiplayer pvp is not the pinnacle of gaming. It's not what all should aspire too. It's an option, and a simple one at that. No character motivation, no story, no... nothing. Just "Here's a gun, shoot the other guys"

well call of duty sucks anyway, so not really a good example to use against MP since other multiplayers have came out since COD. i hate that COD is actually still relevant considering how recycled and stale it is after over 15 years of milking. but i disagree that multiplayer has no lore/character motivation/story and isnt pinnacle worthy

[Saturnalia]

There has never been a better PVP game than Left 4 Dead 2 and probably never will be.

[itzDerrio]

Escrito originalmente por Saturnalia:

There has never been a better PVP game than Left 4 Dead 2 and probably never will be.

a left4dead 3 is sorely needed, its so stale out here

[itzDerrio]

Escrito originalmente por stupid cool:

fortnite is a great game

im sure it is, but if you're not into battle royale then youre outta luck

[Crazy Tiger]

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Which is regardless preferable to playing one game ad nauseum for years.

but you get to play with and against other people which makes it fun. single player you play against scripted bots for a pre-determined outcome, and then never play it again . might as well just rent the game instead, and then spend money on a multiplayer youll actually play for more than 40 hours lol.

You might consider playing with people that fun. Not everybody does. You might not replay "one and done" games, other people do.

Different people, different strokes and all that.

Neither is "better", it's just preference based anyway.

[Moogal™]

Playing with randoms isn't fun therefore it sucks and if i play with friends i play co op anyway.

[Moogal™]

Escrito originalmente por stupid cool:

fortnite is a great game

Well tbf it isn't that bad to watch every now and then some skilled kid on Twitch

[JamesF0790]

Escrito originalmente por itzDerrio:

Escrito originalmente por JamesF0790:

There are some quite nice multiplayer games, I have no problem with them but they are not the pinnacle of games. And if you want to pick a single example of a single player game? Well that's great. Should I pick an example of a multiplayer game to criticise? And yes, I count multiplayer action FPS games as brainless. You'll note I didn't say they didn't require skill. I prefer singleplayer games most of the time. When I'm playing Elden Ring I don't avoid invasions because I'm bad at them. I win some, I lose some. I avoid them because no matter whether I win or lose my reaction is "Finally that's over, I can get back to the game now"

I will take a nice beefy 80 hour RPG over Call of Duty any day. A game set in a abandoned house and I have to piece together what happened? That's awesome. A grand strategy game where I'm guiding generations of a family dynasty in an attempt to better our situation. Perfect. And some of these can be multiplayer, that's not the point. I'm not AGAINST multiplayer but multiplayer pvp is not the pinnacle of gaming. It's not what all should aspire too. It's an option, and a simple one at that. No character motivation, no story, no... nothing. Just "Here's a gun, shoot the other guys"

well call of duty sucks anyway, so not really a good example to use against MP since other multiplayers have came out since COD. i hate that COD is actually still relevant considering how recycled and stale it is after over 15 years of milking. but i disagree that multiplayer has no lore/character motivation/story and isnt pinnacle worthy

Well it's one of the most popular PVP multiplayer games. And all the multiplayer games I've played that have story, character, plot and soul? They're all usually singleplayer games that have Multiplayer. Baldur's Gate 3 comes to mind. Co-op lets you have that, PVP? Not so much.

[$2 Hero]

Just reinstalled TF2. Apparently I'm level 1.

[Dylan]

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Escrito originalmente por Saturnalia:

There has never been a better PVP game than Left 4 Dead 2 and probably never will be.

a left4dead 3 is sorely needed, its so stale out here

I don't think it is really needed. If it is anything like Back 4 Blood, I am just fine with L4D2

[itzDerrio]

Escrito originalmente por Deregulate:

Escrito originalmente por itzDerrio:

a left4dead 3 is sorely needed, its so stale out here

I don't think it is really needed. If it is anything like Back 4 Blood, I am just fine with L4D2

valve had nothing to do with back 4 blood. valve is the reason l4d1 & 2 are so good

[Dylan]

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I don't think it is really needed. If it is anything like Back 4 Blood, I am just fine with L4D2

valve had nothing to do with back 4 blood. valve is the reason l4d1 & 2 are so good

I know they had nothing to do with it. I just have a feeling it will not be as good. There is a reason the originals are so timeless. Why fix what isn't broken. Anything they could think of improving can just be created via workshop mod, anyway.

[PurpleCreativeValiant]

Escrito originalmente por itzDerrio:

There is no PvP multiplayer games to play

Then create

[itzDerrio]

Escrito originalmente por Dylan_Balls:

Escrito originalmente por itzDerrio:

valve had nothing to do with back 4 blood. valve is the reason l4d1 & 2 are so good

I know they had nothing to do with it. I just have a feeling it will not be as good. There is a reason the originals are so timeless. Why fix what isn't broken. Anything they could think of improving can just be created via workshop mod, anyway.

are you one of those types that hates threequels?