Do SPEARS not DESERVE to be in Games?

[HEROLEAS]

I have played many games and as far as i have experienced it....well,its painfully clear that spears which have great historical records for being staple of many global ancient armies have been unable to make their way or atleast not given enough attention in souls games and many other games like elder scrolls being excluded from being used in the game altogether except for the reikling spears which are morelike spear arrows. i totally understand how hard it is to bring out the truest potential of melee and ranged weapons in games where you have to program and design each thing from movesets to designs but Are the game developers just giving excuse for a low budget or are they afraid of giving it a shot and failing since many players have an IN-BUILT mindset to playing assassin or archer cause if you call only weilding a sword being a warrior class then they think of players as fools as a warrior is meant to be weapon from mind soul and body and and wield any weapon.

Long thing short are Spears so under-powered that it can't be put into games since it may be hard for players to use its fullest potential cause seikiro shows how well muscle memory works with a sword in hand. why hate spears give us some spears to play around with.

what do you guys think?

[Hobbit XIII]

Thank you OP and to the other people who recognize that spears were very common.

Games and TV / Movies have over saturated the use of the sword as a use all for everybody.

Game o Thrones as much as I like it = too many swords.

[WarHeRo]

Originally posted by NoMoreUnderscores():

Originally posted by WarHeRo:

simple, spears r over powered. any kind of sword wouldnt even be able to reach them in 1v1. even with shield u wouldnt have a better chance.

Not if the swordsman has real armor. Only a direct stab would have a decent chance of penetrating. Spear misses once, then he's scrambling to regain his footing while the swordsman closes the gap. A person strong enough to fight in armor could even grab or redirect the spear with his off-hand.

Okay, but what if the spear guy is like Wuxia-level? Okay, what if they both are?

Like people have said, to actually program every conceivable move-set would be borderline impossible.

assumimg both guys are equally potent, spear is better. also if u r in full plate the stab will just make u tumble, if u fall u r dead cuz u cant stand up with full plate.
i wouldnt waste swordman on spear man fight, its a waste of man

[Hobbit XIII]

Originally posted by WarHeRo:

Originally posted by NoMoreUnderscores():

Not if the swordsman has real armor. Only a direct stab would have a decent chance of penetrating. Spear misses once, then he's scrambling to regain his footing while the swordsman closes the gap. A person strong enough to fight in armor could even grab or redirect the spear with his off-hand.

Okay, but what if the spear guy is like Wuxia-level? Okay, what if they both are?

Like people have said, to actually program every conceivable move-set would be borderline impossible.

assumimg both guys are equally potent, spear is better. also if u r in full plate the stab will just make u tumble, if u fall u r dead cuz u cant stand up with full plate.
i wouldnt waste swordman on spear man fight, its a waste of man

unless the warrior knightly person happened to have a small hand axe at his waist and chopped the point off.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Originally posted by WarHeRo:

assumimg both guys are equally potent, spear is better. also if u r in full plate the stab will just make u tumble, if u fall u r dead cuz u cant stand up with full plate.
i wouldnt waste swordman on spear man fight, its a waste of man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzTwBQniLSc

[WarHeRo]

Originally posted by Hobbit XIII:

Originally posted by WarHeRo:

assumimg both guys are equally potent, spear is better. also if u r in full plate the stab will just make u tumble, if u fall u r dead cuz u cant stand up with full plate.
i wouldnt waste swordman on spear man fight, its a waste of man

unless the warrior knightly person happened to have a small hand axe at his waist and chopped the point off.

if u watch medival mma u will see that its near impossible to choptp off a spear. most spears make kabab of cavalry, ur dull axe would need a lot of hits to make that happen. and then u'd be facin a pole which is worse for full plate. he will just beat u with it

[Original Cast Recording]

Originally posted by WarHeRo:

Originally posted by NoMoreUnderscores():

Not if the swordsman has real armor. Only a direct stab would have a decent chance of penetrating. Spear misses once, then he's scrambling to regain his footing while the swordsman closes the gap. A person strong enough to fight in armor could even grab or redirect the spear with his off-hand.

Okay, but what if the spear guy is like Wuxia-level? Okay, what if they both are?

Like people have said, to actually program every conceivable move-set would be borderline impossible.

assumimg both guys are equally potent, spear is better. also if u r in full plate the stab will just make u tumble, if u fall u r dead cuz u cant stand up with full plate.
i wouldnt waste swordman on spear man fight, its a waste of man

Assuming equal strength and no body armor, I'd rather have a shield than a two-handed stick.

[Hobbit XIII]

Originally posted by WarHeRo:

Originally posted by Hobbit XIII:

unless the warrior knightly person happened to have a small hand axe at his waist and chopped the point off.

if u watch medival mma u will see that its near impossible to choptp off a spear. most spears make kabab of cavalry, ur dull axe would need a lot of hits to make that happen. and then u'd be facin a pole which is worse for full plate. he will just beat u with it

ok you win Full plated / armoured nobles allowed themselves to be out equipped by the peasantry.

[Goldias]

... Morrowind got spear. They just cut it out in oblivion and skyrim.
And I've seen plenty of games that have spear. Just how many games did you play?

[WarHeRo]

Originally posted by NoMoreUnderscores():

Originally posted by WarHeRo:

assumimg both guys are equally potent, spear is better. also if u r in full plate the stab will just make u tumble, if u fall u r dead cuz u cant stand up with full plate.
i wouldnt waste swordman on spear man fight, its a waste of man

Assuming equal strength and no body armor, I'd rather have a shield than a two-handed stick.

i'd use a kopis or yatagan if u have shield. if we go only sword i'd use a saber or kilij. or even shord sword like gladius. i'd never use a katana, they look dumb and suck im rral combat

[WarHeRo]

Originally posted by Hobbit XIII:

Originally posted by WarHeRo:

if u watch medival mma u will see that its near impossible to choptp off a spear. most spears make kabab of cavalry, ur dull axe would need a lot of hits to make that happen. and then u'd be facin a pole which is worse for full plate. he will just beat u with it

ok you win Full plated / armoured nobles allowed themselves to be out equipped by the peasantry.

elite knights would use hellbards or pole axes in eu. im middle east hellbards and great axes are alos ver famous especially im thr jenissary infantry

[Good Night Owl]

Spears are more used in games than you seem to think. Strategy games utilize them pretty often.

RPGs are the real issue. They don't control like real life. They control like a toddler trying to hold onto a fire truck hose putting out a house fire.

[Blunt Raps]

Couldve sworn there was a spear or 2 in skyrim.

[WarHeRo]

Originally posted by Blunt Raps:

Couldve sworn there was a spear or 2 in skyrim.

yeah, u can find Riekling Spears

[Hobbit XIII]

Originally posted by WarHeRo:

Originally posted by Hobbit XIII:

ok you win Full plated / armoured nobles allowed themselves to be out equipped by the peasantry.

elite knights would use hellbards or pole axes in eu. im middle east hellbards and great axes are alos ver famous especially im thr jenissary infantry

Thank you for teaching me about medieval history I am so grateful you enlightened me on this subject.

[WarHeRo]

Originally posted by Hobbit XIII:

Originally posted by WarHeRo:

elite knights would use hellbards or pole axes in eu. im middle east hellbards and great axes are alos ver famous especially im thr jenissary infantry

Thank you for teaching me about medieval history I am so grateful you enlightened me on this subject.

i am not teachin u anythin, i just mean to say that not only plebs were usin spears.