Stop asking for pronouns.

[Azami]

I swear to god if I get asked what pronouns I use I’m going to flip. Next time I’ll just say I’m a magical fairy.

[Birds]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Pikumii:

Where is the problem with asking pronouns?

the brain interprets it as a genitalia question with profound impacts for their social and sexual identities.

people are as likely to freak out and tell lizard lies in response as if you asked how big 'it' was. whatever 'it' may be.

[B]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Minikin Cayuse:

Oprindeligt skrevet af B:

Evolution indeed teaches us that we evolved to become human. I'd imagine given enough time and evolution we'd become very different than what is currently known to be human.

That's not an answer. You think it's messed up to call someone crazy for how they were born, yet have no problem whatsoever with calling it "wrong". I don't see why that would be so different.

Its a perfectly fine answer but perhaps you were hoping for something a bit less logical?

It is wrong to judge people for being born the way they are. Sorry I'm not willing to budge or defending people for being born.

[B]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Pikumii:

Where is the problem with asking pronouns?

There isn't one. Not a real one anyways.

[76561199586159139]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Coffinmaw:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Mangelie:

The only way you offend a transgender by misgendering them is:

1. do it obviously deliberately with bad intention
2. do it after they tell you their correct pronoun
3. meet a trans person who is fed up of everyone's ♥♥♥♥

Most of the trans-folk I've met and known were the third.

That means they are in a permanent state of being offended, even looking in their direction will make them explode. It almost seems like the majority of them are like that, although to be fair the others might just actually stay out of sight.

[Coffinmaw]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Mangelie:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Coffinmaw:

Most of the trans-folk I've met and known were the third.

well yes look how trans people are treated even on a place like this let alone real life.

I normally don't keep an ear to proverbial ground here when it comes to Steam's trans-folk community. Now real life I have more knowledge; second hand of course, but still.

[76561199586159139]

Oprindeligt skrevet af B:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Minikin Cayuse:

That's not an answer. You think it's messed up to call someone crazy for how they were born, yet have no problem whatsoever with calling it "wrong". I don't see why that would be so different.

Its a perfectly fine answer but perhaps you were hoping for something a bit less logical?

It is wrong to judge people for being born the way they are. Sorry I'm not willing to budge or defending people for being born.

I asked the question so I know if it is an answer or not, not you. And no do not get even more illogical. Please.

[B]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Minikin Cayuse:

Oprindeligt skrevet af B:

Its a perfectly fine answer but perhaps you were hoping for something a bit less logical?

It is wrong to judge people for being born the way they are. Sorry I'm not willing to budge or defending people for being born.

I asked the question so I know if it is an answer or not, not you. And no do not get even more illogical. Please.

You're being a bit hostile mate. You need to back off.

[Azami]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Not Big Surprise:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Azami Faith:

That’s not the point.

then what's the point?

I already said this before.. if you can’t identify what pronouns/ gender I use/am, then either you’re living in a bubble or ignorant or both. Most likely the latter.

Asking pronouns tells me you’re defying the logic of human biology and everything that is logical.

Me and my other nursing classmates literally have discussions about this.

[Merci]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Coffinmaw:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Mangelie:

well yes look how trans people are treated even on a place like this let alone real life.

I normally don't keep an ear to proverbial ground here when it comes to Steam's trans-folk community. Now real life I have more knowledge; second hand of course, but still.

well, imagine all you have to do to be hated or mistreated is to "be" or "exist" then u realise why a lot of trans people are quite easy to upset.

[76561199586159139]

Oprindeligt skrevet af B:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Minikin Cayuse:

I asked the question so I know if it is an answer or not, not you. And no do not get even more illogical. Please.

You're being a bit hostile mate. You need to back off.

Lol. Yeah right. Maybe don't ask for it then. By saying something like this for example:

perhaps you were hoping for something a bit less logical?

[Coffinmaw]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Minikin Cayuse:

That means they are in a permanent state of being offended, even looking in their direction will make them explode. It almost seems like the majority of them are like that, although to be fair the others might just actually stay out of sight.

I prescribe myself the idea that how you act and your actions towards others often effect how they perceive and act around you, but I don't know. I'm not trans. But if more trans-folk explode at me, that's fine. I'm used to hearing people yell at me for no apparent reason.

[Goose]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Azami Faith:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Not Big Surprise:

then what's the point?

I already said this before.. if you can’t identify what pronouns/ gender I use/am, then either you’re living in a bubble or ignorant or both. Most likely the latter.

Asking pronouns tells me you’re defying the logic of human biology and everything that is logical.

Me and my other nursing classmates literally have discussions about this.

i can't identify your name by looking at you.

[Nogsec]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Goose:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Azami Faith:

I already said this before.. if you can’t identify what pronouns/ gender I use/am, then either you’re living in a bubble or ignorant or both. Most likely the latter.

Asking pronouns tells me you’re defying the logic of human biology and everything that is logical.

Me and my other nursing classmates literally have discussions about this.

i can't identify your name by looking at you.

i can. his name is chin

[Coffinmaw]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Mangelie:

Well, imagine all you have to do to be hated or mistreated is to "be" or "exist".

I don't have to imagine; that's my life in a nutshell. But that's okay; I stopped caring decades ago.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Mangelie:

You realise why a lot of trans people are quite easy to upset.

In a sense, yes.

[76561199586159139]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Juxumuxu:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Azami Faith:

Asking pronouns tells me you’re defying the logic of human biology and everything that is logical.

Pronouns have nothing to do with biology...

the he/him she/her they/them pronouns reflect the societal roles and not the stuff between the legs.

dont you find it vulgar to refer to someone exclusively by their genitals??

It's always been like that. Nobody ever had a problem with it. Why start now?