A one state solution for Israel and Palestine.

[Hobbit XIII]

Take away the governments and the militaries and the armed groups and make the IDF clear up all the rubble and then everybody can help rebuilding the cities and then put in the commandments like do not steal, do not kill , keep the 7th day free of work, and say right you lot go live with each other now you all got allocated housing regardless of your religion and now get on with working together.

You are not allowed to move house and you are not allowed any religious buildings until you all show you can be responsible to live with each other in peace before you go bothering higher powers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugrAo8wEPiI

[ZZZZZ]

Originalmente postado por Hobbit XIII:

Originalmente postado por ZZZZZ:

how to keep the bombers out then?

That is your job to figure out within the lines of the original post I know how I would start doing it.
The question is how would you do it, taking the reply as some points to consider :

preventive measures, emergency responses, follow up tasks and how to prevent in future.

am I allowed to invade neighbour countries?

[76561199559798421]

the solution is to immigrate 1 million Africans and Asian into the Gaze strip and allow them to populate the region, this will remove all arguments between Israel and Palestine and will create a Diversified population that the region is lacking.

[ZZZZZ]

Originalmente postado por Everyone is Invited:

the solution is to immigrate 1 million Africans and Chinese into the Gaze strip and allow them to populate the region, this will remove all arguments between Israel and Palestine and will create a Diversified population that the region is lacking.

u would prob need 20million

[Hobbit XIII]

Originalmente postado por ZZZZZ:

Originalmente postado por Hobbit XIII:

That is your job to figure out within the lines of the original post I know how I would start doing it.
The question is how would you do it, taking the reply as some points to consider :

preventive measures, emergency responses, follow up tasks and how to prevent in future.

am I allowed to invade neighbour countries?

no.

[76561199559798421]

they don't have enough sustainable housing for 20 million immigrants they would also struggle with the influx of bad sewage and lack of food production to sustain 20 million , the region is very small and relies heavily on imported products to sustain populations. this is why the outcry for peace cease fire is on going due to the limited sustainability in the region.

[Morkonan]

Originalmente postado por Hobbit XIII:

...working together. ..

IMO:


There's nobody to talk to.


Quite simply, between squabbling factions on both sides of this issue, there is nobody to agree to anything, to make any binding negotiations, or to suggest or accept compromise.

There has arguably never been any one power capable of legitimately negotiating for Palestinians and nobody who wields power, not even counting Iran's agent provocateur status, in the name of Palestinians would last very long if they attempted some formal compromise position that solved the problem. Not Hamas, not Hezbollah, not the Palestinian Authority, nor any of thenumerous splinter groups (other terrorists) involved in this problem. That includes more "conservative" extreme groups in Israel, too - They want blood just as much as their counterparts.

There's no foundation for any solution, here, IMO.

There is no compromise position involving just Israel and... whoever.. that can possibly be acceptable that could yield "peace." Even the most widely accepted one would birth fifty-eleventy terrorist groups, mostly supported by Iran, but some so extreme that Iran wouldn't even support them. The extremist promotion of the unexistance of Israel being a religious imperative has been going on for so long that it has resulted in a situation that has no solution that won't involve violent conflict. There's nobody to counter that rhetoric, either, as there is no central religious authority to declare dogma that could yield such a solution. Unless Iran fully backs such a compromise, and its leadership can not, it can't possibly ever see the light of day.

Some things just don't have clean solutions solved by everyone "working together." When too many will not or can not work with their opposing counterparts, and their traditional way of "working" is to "blow up stuffs," there is no compromise solution that will not involve lots of stuffs getting blow'd the f up.

IMO: Behind the closed doors of governments in the region, every single one of them would be much happier if the Palestinians just died off... With the exception of Iran, of course. It's not that they "care" about the Palestinians, it's that the Palestinian issue gives them an active foothold in events and within powers capable of assisting in their quest to unexist Israel.

PS: One thing that I think everyone in the region would be worried about is Israel actually disappearing... If that happened, then the 1500 year old question of Sunni vs Shia would rise to the top of the bowl. That's basically Iran, Iraq and, maybe Syria, being the major partners, against "everyone else," including Saudi Arabia, in a religiously focused cultural war. Not a joke, not something to be taken lightly as just blustering... https://www.thoughtco.com/sunni-♥♥♥♥♥♥-split-3305550 The fact that Iran backs both Hamas and Hezbollah attests to the significance of Israel as a target for the violence that would continue to exist without it. Solve the Sunni/Shia issue first and then there can be a foundation for peace... or world war.

[Sir Seanicus, Esq.]

Just bring back Crusader States.

[A&A]

Originalmente postado por WarHeRo:

imagine a stranger show up at ur home and tell u that thousands of years ago this was his gramps lot and asks u to leave, what would u do? how is that one state supposed the solve that problem?

Are you saying there isn't enough land for them to settle? :D

[AdahnGorion]

We could also just give it all to the Kurds.. Lets give them Syria and half of Turkey as well..

On a serious punt.. the issue is never going to be fixed without much bloodshed, because of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN4mnVLP0rU

[craigsters]

Turn the area in conflict into a massive canal for international ships to pass through make money using said area

[vkobe]

Originalmente postado por Hobbit XIII:

Take away the governments and the militaries and the armed groups and make the IDF clear up all the rubble and then everybody can help rebuilding the cities and then put in the commandments like do not steal, do not kill , keep the 7th day free of work, and say right you lot go live with each other now you all got allocated housing regardless of your religion and now get on with working together.

You are not allowed to move house and you are not allowed any religious buildings until you all show you can be responsible to live with each other in peace before you go bothering higher powers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugrAo8wEPiI

it is like if you ask to merge ukraine with russia

both war will not end well and going to be horrific

[vkobe]

Originalmente postado por DoomsDay:

Originalmente postado por WarHeRo:

culture = people. eradicate culture = genocide. thats what happened in ww2

op was saying something like, remove the border line, mixing them up, have them rebuild the place.

people from other nation are mixed and building all the time.

nope, after ww2 they forced german people to left eastern prussia, Czech

other country suffer civil war or other uprising like in ottoman empire when turk nuked armenian and kurd and greek

you also have example with austria empire, yugoslavia and russia

currently china dont play nice game against tibet and Uigurs

india have problem similar problems

so your solution only work if everyone agree with the plan

but good luck when both side hate each other

[Hobbit XIII]

Originalmente postado por AdahnGorion:

We could also just give it all to the Kurds.. Lets give them Syria and half of Turkey as well..

On a serious punt.. the issue is never going to be fixed without much bloodshed, because of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN4mnVLP0rU

15 minutes in and I think my long held belief the world needs to be divided up by resource and administration offices , would be a good idea.

And if the people really want to identify as something to feel special let them support football teams.

and back to watching it.

[Vote Quimby]

This sounds like a Hollywood movie with Adam Sandler and John Turturo. Phantom!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb8ufI6z0zM

[Hobbit XIII]

And finished the youtube sent by AdahnGorian.

Do not think I have ever seen anything before that puts Saddam Hussein as a candidate for the saviour of the middle east before.

Thanks for the link it was good watching nice seeing everything condensed so much information put it as it is.