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ambi 2024년 4월 12일 오전 12시 49분
Gamers REJECT modern gaming. Old titles DOMINATE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWKgNNzXNxQ

So the top PC titles that were most-played last year are over 9 years old. Consoles tell a similar story, with the top titles being about 7 years old.

Why have most modern titles crashed and burned?
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Tito Shivan 2024년 4월 12일 오전 2시 55분 
Love how this video is a good example of "Everything can be explained by statistics"
Thing is they're discussing most played games by MAU.

Monthly Active Users.

Now go look at the list and tell me what almost all of the games in that list have in common.
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Don't see it?
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They're multiplayer titles.

A multiplayer title is bound to keep MAU higher through a year over most single player titles because they're designed to keep engagement through time (With things like Season passes, daily rewards...).

He's just using the numbers that allow him to fit his narrative. Out of all the measurements one could use to gauge game performance.

You go to Steam and:
https://store.steampowered.com/sale/BestOf2023
Suddenly the list there shows recent titles (with associated 'woke controversies') making it top of the lists:
Baldur's Gate, Hogwarts Legacy, Starfield.
robwarrior 2024년 4월 12일 오전 3시 11분 
i think its because back in the day games were made by "nerds" or gamers. Now games are made by EA and activision blizzard, ubisoft etc.. Thier not passionate about making the best games they just out to make as much money as possible. Indie games are doing very good tho it seems
bad_fur_day1 2024년 4월 12일 오전 3시 16분 
Reject old gaming as well and play tabletop gaming. :steamsunny:
Mega Ultra Chicken 2024년 4월 12일 오전 3시 22분 
Sek-Raktaa님이 먼저 게시:
I'm too Hot님이 먼저 게시:
When a woman looks too sexy in a game, that it's not realistic enough.

so you're upset that you can't jack off to modern video game women anymore.

got it.
I don't jack off to video game women. There's porn for that. There's no reason for them to be uglier but to make woke people happy.
Tonepoet 2024년 4월 12일 오전 3시 31분 
Um, why would you link to the Amongsgold video instead of a more primary source. I mean I know market analyst Newzoo doesn't exactly make their information public, but you're linking to a reaction video to an analysis video. Whatever happened to the original analysits' video anyway? In any case it's quicker to read an article like the one I.G.N. published, and you won't have a youtuber's head blocking the 9th and 10th results for P.C. and I.G.N. is pretty quick to point out that Hogwarts Legacy is the first non-Call of Duty or Rockstar game to top the best sellers charts in ages.

I'm not terribly surprised by this to be frank. First, its generally been true that the older games are better.

Second, fallen on some rough economic times and gaming is kind of an expensive hobby. The newest games and the newest hardware to play them at the highest most impressive fidelity, both cost money, and we kind of had that whole G.P.U. and console shortage back in 2020. Playing the games you already own is affordable. Playing the games that are free is even more affordable, which might be why part of why fortnite absolutely dominates.

Fallguys is free. Rocket Leauge is frree, The Sims 4 was made free somewhat recently, Roblox is free, Counterstrike is free, Apex Legends is free and Valorant is free.

Also, this is a top ten games by monthly average userbase, which is kind of a weird metric to be using. First I'd think it'd be based on yearly annual userbase if we're judging by all of 2023, but semantics aside, how many people play their single player games for more than like, three days, a week or maybe two before getting their fill and switching to something else?

The only ones that are usually worth much more of a time investment tend to either be multiplayer games or proceedurally generated games (hence Minecraft), because the other players and freshly generated levels offer new unique challenges to overcome, plus you can kind of socialize over the online games, so you play those in part for the comraderie as well. Moreover, there's a bit of a snowball effect, where old games with preexisting userbases get even more players.

Otherwise you'd normally be judging games by their total sales volumes, and not their M.A.U.

Like, this chart only just barely touches upon the popularity of Hogwarts Legacy, which despite the boycots, ended up being the top selling game of 2023 with 23 million copies sold. It only makes the nintendo switch charts here, and it ranks as low as no. 8.

The next nine top selling games in order according to Gamespot[www.gamespot.com] are:

  • Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III
  • Madden N.F.L. 24, Marvel's Spider-Man 2
  • The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
  • Diablo IV
  • Call of Duty Modern Warfare II
  • Mortal Kombat 1
  • Star Wars Jedi: Survivor
  • E.A. Sports FC 24.

Mario Kart 8 and Minecraft are still noteworthy contenders by sales volume, but they fall all of the way down to ranks 19 and 20 respectively, and Super Mario Wonder ranks up as high as 12, Those are also the type of child friendly games that parents buy for their kids who don't already have a games library.

Of course, going by sales produces biased results in another way, since free games aren't technically sold and are thus foreclosed upon the discussion in top sellers.

Now I don't know exactly how many players registered to play fortnite last year to get the fairest comparison, but with 550 million players for a seven year old game, we're looking at 78 million players annually? Impressive, but again, it is free, so you'd expect it to have a higher adoption rate than a paid game.

Also, I wonder how many people are just playing G.T.A. 5 to benchmark it. Next to C.S. Go, it's one of the most popular low spec. games to benchmark.

I think one of the most surprising takeaways to me is that E.A. Sports FC 24 is really, really popular. No 4 on the Playstation list and no 10. on the overall best sellers list, knocking Starfield off of the list. Another thing is that I'm surprised by the absence of Baldur's Gate III.

One last note I'd like to make note of on the general is that I wonder if the most popular games might even be older, like Playstation 2 or S.N.E.S. games. We didn't exactly have online playtime tracking for those consoles. It's just kind of surprising to me that the popular "old" games are so new.

Okay, I lied. The last thing I'd really like to note is that isn't it kind of cheating to lump all of the call of duty games together like that? I mean, I know everybody keeps saying that Call of Duty is just the same game over again with each successive installment but still...

I'm too Hot님이 먼저 게시:
When a woman looks too sexy in a game, that it's not realistic enough.

I kinda don't think that's it. Going by the best sellers list, Mortal Kombat 1 and Spider Man 2 are actually pretty popular despite people complaining about the Ninja Girls and Mary Jane getting face downgrades. You'd think those games would sell horribly if that were the issue, or at least that Street Fighter VI would outsell Mortal Kombat 1, since I think people generally prefer the character designs in Street Fighter VI (even if I personally think Cammy looks too much like an Android 18 ripoff now).

Plus it's not exactly as if many of these games feature super sexy girls. I mean, sure, Peach is as pretty as a princess but she's not exactly a sex-symbol either.

Seven years ago was 2017, so you'd think a game like Nier: Automata would be topping the charts if people wanted that 'cause 2B is the hottest thing in the whole past decade of gaming, and Neir Automata was actually quite popular for its time. Also, where's the Overwatch players at with their weird obsession over D.Va and Tracer?

I mean, Fortnite makes the M.A.U. list, and Apex Legends makes the list, and Overwatch is their nearest contemporary rival in the team-based arena shooter genre. I suppose perhaps Blizard might have screwed themselves by releasing overwatch 2. Still though, it were about the prettiness of the girls, you'd think Overwatch 2 would be ranking up there with Overwatch and Apex Legends since it's a popular I.P. in the same genre and they upgraded D.Va's, erhem, assets, if you catch my drift.

I think people just don't care about that particular matter one way or the other, unless maybe they're just sick of playing as girls altogether.
Auckes 2024년 4월 12일 오전 3시 32분 
Because modern titles suffer from "consolitis", are dirty-woke hot-garbage meme-level material, are heads over heels for Graphics first and there are no original ideas, anymore.

Old but gold
They do not make them like they used to
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DoomsDay 2024년 4월 12일 오전 3시 37분 
it is usually like this, with only few exception, like when pubg came out,
still most gamer does not follow trends, they play what their computer can handle with no hassle. that's usually old games.
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Mega Ultra Chicken 2024년 4월 12일 오전 3시 37분 
eram님이 먼저 게시:
I'm too Hot님이 먼저 게시:
Making video game characters look realistic even when it doesn't matter. The woke and ESG ratings shouldn't decide what people in a game look like. It's against artistic expression.
ive played 1000s of games and dont see what you are saying.

what game is this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMY4LwVIypU&t=6s
Black Zombie Lives matter
Plaid 2024년 4월 12일 오전 3시 41분 
I'm too Hot님이 먼저 게시:
eram님이 먼저 게시:
ive played 1000s of games and dont see what you are saying.

what game is this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMY4LwVIypU&t=6s
Black Zombie Lives matter
What if they used white people in black face? Would that be less racist?
Fighting off the Trudeau'ian hordes
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Mega Ultra Chicken 2024년 4월 12일 오전 3시 47분 
Plaid님이 먼저 게시:
I'm too Hot님이 먼저 게시:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMY4LwVIypU&t=6s
Black Zombie Lives matter
What if they used white people in black face? Would that be less racist?
No, the woke would still criticize it either way. It was stupid to think RE 5 was racist back in 2009 and it's still stupid today. It's mostly black people in Africa and there are some lighter skinned zombies in the original game.
bluesky66621 2024년 4월 12일 오전 3시 48분 
eram님이 먼저 게시:
im so far removed from any of that type of politics i dont think ill ever get it. lol

Unless your American, I doubt you will ever understand.
Mega Ultra Chicken 2024년 4월 12일 오전 3시 52분 
Plaid님이 먼저 게시:
I'm too Hot님이 먼저 게시:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMY4LwVIypU&t=6s
Black Zombie Lives matter
What if they used white people in black face? Would that be less racist?
Fighting off the Trudeau'ian hordes
I think the woke would only be happy with RE5 if they changed Chris's skin to black.
Basarab Laiota 2024년 4월 12일 오전 3시 57분 
asmongoloid
Sek-Raktaa 2024년 4월 12일 오전 3시 58분 
I'm too Hot님이 먼저 게시:
Sek-Raktaa님이 먼저 게시:

so you're upset that you can't jack off to modern video game women anymore.

got it.
I don't jack off to video game women. There's porn for that. There's no reason for them to be uglier but to make woke people happy.

Games don't play any worse because the women are supposedly not as pretty anymore, according to some arbitrary and asinine reason you made up yourself.

How the ingame model of a women looks in a video game has no influence on actual gameplay, you know the stuff with your controller or mouse&keyboard? the stuff you spend the vast majority of your time doing when you play a game?

And that is beside the point that historically speaking, players have been more than willing to put up with ugly characters in video games as long as the game is awesome. Remember Abe's Odyssey?

So, if the ingame model of women doesn't change how the game actually plays and players are willing to put up with ugly if the game is awesome, then the only real reason to actively complain about that kind of thing is because you were hoping to jack off to it.

I don't play video games to oogle at pretty women, I have internet porn sites for that.

I play video games to engage in awesome and fun gameplay, either alone or with some friends.
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Mega Ultra Chicken 2024년 4월 12일 오전 4시 04분 
Sek-Raktaa님이 먼저 게시:
I'm too Hot님이 먼저 게시:
I don't jack off to video game women. There's porn for that. There's no reason for them to be uglier but to make woke people happy.

Games don't play any worse because the women are supposedly not as pretty anymore.

How the ingame model of a women looks in a video game has no influence on actual gameplay, you know the stuff with your controller or mouse&keyboard? the stuff you spend the vast majority of your time doing when you play a game?

And that is beside the point that historically speaking, players have been more than willing to put up with ugly characters in video games as long as the game is awesome. Remember Abe's Odyssey?

So, if the ingame model of women doesn't change how the game actually plays and players are willing to put up with ugly if the game is awesome, then the only real reason to actively complain about that kind of thing is because you were hoping to jack off to it.
But what's the point? To get more women to play video games. A lot of non-gamer women think gaming is childish anyway.
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