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Obelisk 2024 年 6 月 16 日 上午 5:21
Russian warships including nuclear sub arrive in Cuba
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWvmsWDKUzY

Are we in another Cold War?
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vkobe 2024 年 6 月 16 日 上午 9:03 
引用自 Blue-Eyes White Dragon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWvmsWDKUzY

Are we in another Cold War?
nope we are in global warming war
permanent name 2024 年 6 月 16 日 上午 9:34 
引用自 Morkonan
引用自 permanent name
the fuel bulker in particular suggests they are looking for a missing sub....

That doesn't have to be the case, but...

https://www.reddit.com/r/submarines/comments/1dgwguu/russian_sub_arriving_in_cuba_appears_to_have_hull/?rdt=65157

I noticed this as well when I first saw a vid of it coming into port.

Ah, yes. This particular style of sub is ancient, mass produced, and was never meant to have a maintenance budget. It shares its maintenance with 1940s subs, which do have a budget.

Russian subs use a kind of redundant outer baffle in case they have to ram another sub. Same general reason people wear leather vambraces in swordfighting; it'll save you from a close scrape. And since a close scrape is fatal to a regular sub, they could in theory melee and survive. That's what's peeling off, armor plating that isn't worth replacing. It works better if it's jutting off and a little bit jagged, gives it some extra reach, and the rust that's on it is a protective oxidative coating at this point.

Anyway, between the old age and maintenance issues on these subs they have a tendency to sink. Usually it's just a motor issue though, and the sub can be craned up, fixed, have its starter engines refueled, and set on their way. Or get towed to port. Crew's fine and everything, they just can't lift. Again, pretty normal occurance for one of these subs.

Just looks like the kind of stuff you'd want if you were looking for one of these stalled subs.
最后由 permanent name 编辑于; 2024 年 6 月 16 日 上午 9:41
apathy 2024 年 6 月 16 日 上午 9:38 
Any connection with the memory-attacking Herpes virus that first appeared in Cuba, that is now attacking most of Biden's administration?
Ulfrinn 2024 年 6 月 16 日 上午 9:58 
引用自 Voroff
引用自 N3tRunn3r
latest news is, a russian nuclear submarine has been spotted infront of the UK
.... Ok, you're kinda aware that the UK is kinda in the way for russians subs to get to the atlantic ? Wake me up the day they DONT go near the UK ...

Just like how Cuba is basically off the coat of Florida, we knew Russian ships were going to Cuba so saying Russian ships were off the coast of Florida was pretty obvious.
Pocahawtness 2024 年 6 月 16 日 上午 10:48 
Just the same old sabre rattling that small men do.
Chaosolous 2024 年 6 月 16 日 上午 10:49 
🎶☢Gimme gimme gimme gimme gimmmmmeeeeeee that nuclear hellllfirrrrrreeeeee.☢🎶
Majestic Turkey 2024 年 6 月 16 日 上午 10:52 
No, just the same one.

Worse, leadership was rational back then.
Q-T_3.14.exe 2024 年 6 月 16 日 下午 12:30 
Where is JFK when you need him?
Majestic Turkey 2024 年 6 月 16 日 下午 6:58 
引用自 Q-T_3.14.exe
Where is JFK when you need him?

That was the only JFK win, he was terrible on everything else, and was responsible for the "nation of immigrants" mythology pushed by the ADL.


Anyways the second more important part of this, Ukraine attacked Russias early warning radars for nuclear launch detection.

That kind of reckless behavior should be met by immediate cancellation of everything for threatening the world, but its barely made the news instead.


Devastating Escalations Between Russia and NATO - Ukraine is Being Decimated | MIT Prof. Ted Postol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31evDkl--g0
N3tRunn3r 2024 年 6 月 19 日 上午 6:54 
引用自 Voroff
引用自 N3tRunn3r
latest news is, a russian nuclear submarine has been spotted infront of the UK
.... Ok, you're kinda aware that the UK is kinda in the way for russians subs to get to the atlantic ? Wake me up the day they DONT go near the UK ...


引用自 Ulfrinn
引用自 Voroff
.... Ok, you're kinda aware that the UK is kinda in the way for russians subs to get to the atlantic ? Wake me up the day they DONT go near the UK ...

Just like how Cuba is basically off the coat of Florida, we knew Russian ships were going to Cuba so saying Russian ships were off the coast of Florida was pretty obvious.

Jun 15, 2024

A Russian nuclear submarine spotted off the coast of the UK has triggered an emergency meeting of British defense officials. British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak was briefed after a Russian nuclear submarine was identified off the coast of Scotland in a top secret meeting, Express.co.uk reports.

The modern Yasen-class submarine 'Kazan' was spotted on June 5 after a Royal Airforce Poseidon P8 anti-submarine aircraft dropped sonar buoys to detect submarine activity in the deep, according to the report.

An RAF surveillance plane had tracked the submarine as it sailed along the west coast of Ireland towards Scotland, passing close to the British naval station at Faslane. Military commanders feared that the 13,800-ton vessel was searching for weak spots on NATO's outer rim.
Source ::
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1911666/russian-submarine-spotted-scotland
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Ulfrinn 2024 年 6 月 19 日 上午 7:27 
Coloring your text blue and making it bigger doesn't make it more important.
Morkonan 2024 年 6 月 19 日 上午 9:28 
引用自 permanent name
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Just looks like the kind of stuff you'd want if you were looking for one of these stalled subs.

It's possible.

All modern subs, and even old ones, have an outer hull and a pressure hull. I am not aware of any special "collision armor" for use when... ramming. The tiles that are missing in the photo/vid are part of an anechoic tile system meant to absorb/diffuse sonar. Them "falling off" is not a terribly uncommon thing across fleets that use those systems, even in the US.

BUT... that Russia allowed that ship to surface and parade to port with those missing tiles prominently in focus... means they couldn't PR their way out of that and had to settle for that presentation. That could have pointed to a recent event that ended up not being repairable by whatever assets they had available at sea.

It's interesting to theorize about, but it doesn't appear there's a lot of focus on it atm.
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