Is Gen Z and Millennial laziness justified?

[Obelisk]

The Boomers like to say they're lazy, but the newer generations also didn't grow up in an era where everything was reasonably priced and a college degree was more valuable.

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引用自 Neurotic Panda：

this is one of those posts where you just grab some food and a drink and LOL while you read it.

boohoo. omg its this generation, or that generation. its all their fault and they make me fweel icky!! Its their fault I don't want to work or be a part of society.

I mean someone here was blaming things on a generation that was born in the 1880s.. (lost generation). that on had me spit some tea out.

please keep going.

:laugh_lif:

The Panda lost its brain today.

[Zilkenian Davenport]

Sometimes I wonder if Boomers realize that Millennials are on their 35-40's.
I'm on my way to 37, I think we can drop the whole "oh, these young Millennials!"

Besides, right now we're considered ancient by the new generations, which is fine by me.

[brain stew]

I may be lazy, but...

Hold on, I'm gonna need a 15 minute break before finishing that sentence.

Good thing I'm in a Union...

[michaelplehner]

I don't play the generation game nonsense because their timelines make no sense. I can say that the laziness in today's teenagers/early 20s kids are why I believe in sending jobs to Mexico and China. Yes the work is hit and miss but at least it gets done.

[Dutchgamer1982]

引用自 talemore：

引用自 Dutchgamer1982：

their mindset enrages me.
as it is utterly selfish.
and it gives me feelings they deserve a proper beating up to get them back into order!

look if they just want to work less and also live simpler.. that in itself I am ok with.
but this lazy attitude goes way further than just that...

like there is a birthday.. they just show up without any gift.. "yeah not material""
look ahole.. I gave you a gift a gift is not about costing a fortune it is about showing you know said friend.. what he/she likes and that you took the time to shop and get something even if it is a bloody 2 euro item...

and there is more.. they always are like no I have no coffee.. cause I not drink it.. as in utterly selfish when they recieve guests.. while any normal person makes sure he stocks what he KNOWS his friends like.. I mean I stock their disgusting overpriced herbal teas too.

and even more.. their "declutter" mindset in effect means they hardly own anything but always are begging people like me who DO have everything an adult man should own.. can I borrow this tool, can I borrow 5 plates cause I have a birthday can I borrow chairs.. THE F dude.. get your own.. instead of living with just 1 plate and 1 cup and no tools.. "yeah but I only use them a few times a year and I hate stuff" guess what WE ALL DO.. but we DONT go begging around.. nor should you!

and than there is the utter DISREPECT for your stuff.. like I have nice glasses some wineglasses can be like 20 or 50 euro a piece... when I break something in a friends house... I ALWAYS offer to pay.. generally that is waved.. if a small item.. but I insists. normal couracy.. I also have insurance for claims should I damage anything over 100 euro I can use that.

they.. no insuance.. no nothing.. they wil just goofball around with your expensive stuff like I see them try balancing my expensive glass on like a branch of a tyree than it falls.. and they don't even offer to pay up.. and when I act angry they like "what you mind thats like 50 cent" at which I am NO it is no you jackasss its 50 euro! and insetad of acting shocked, humbled and imedialty oh I did not know shall I pay.. nop[e.. they ridicule ME for having nice items..

and if there is like a bbq with friends.. they again ALWAYS cheap out.. yet eat their fill of all the expensive stuff I and others bring.. but than.. do loudly boast about yet another 15k holiday trip of 12 months they will do for 9 months of actually working 18h a week is SOOO tiresome..

that kind of disrepect leeching behavior is gen z for me and I hate it..

I am always fine with friends who are poorer.. cause they can't help it.. but even they offer to pay their fair share.. than I often say.. I got you covered... no brainer to me.. if I have it better and they can't help it ofcourse..
but even they bring a gift even if it is a 50 cent one.. and I not mind.. it's the attention that matters and a gift must be in proportion a wealthy person brings large gifts a poor person only small ones.. is totally normal to me..

but a person who has 15k trip money and himself only chooses to work so little.. basicly just profits OFF me.. and that is enraging.

oh and yeah.. try even to GET an Gen Z person to grasp the concept of responsibility or "because thats how it SHOULD be done"
it's alient to them.. total jerks.

like they will arrive barefoot on a funeral of my dad.. case they have this barefoot fase... total without respect.

I hear what you saying but there is nothing to pay with. What do you want in return for using your tools. What I can give you.

I think I tried to make people understand that communism doesn't exist as every communist state is a failed capitalism.

You don't have anything to pay with so we will have to start with selling our children to you. Eat them, screw them. Anything as long you accept them.

Let me loan it, what will you do in return.

I Owe You. Is money.

I do whatever you ask as long you give back the debt to me. We're all in debt. Anyone who need to work to live is in debt.

Once all debts are paid is when it collapses since everyone are free but none is able to survive. Which is why I Owe You will come back to them.


If you try to say that they can just get their own they need to become in debt to obtain it. But banks will not allow anyone to become in debt. To obtain it they need the credit score to obtain the right become in debt.

It has never been about who is lazy since the most lazy thing would be to have money and not in need of anything or anyone. You have no responsibility any longer since all debts have been collected back to you.

What we believe is money is I Owe You.

We collect I Owe You to become debt free.

This is why nobody here is debt free unless you have no responsibility for others.

We're born with debts and we collect debts to become free of debts. And that means every time you give money you give a I Owe You.

The reason why is because there is no silver or gold used as payment. Everything we do is collecting our own debts. And once we have them we need to keep them to make sure nobody put us in debt to others.

What the bank does is the mafia as they want to loan the money they given to you and claim that you have I Owe You to them but it is the opposite. You are holding their debts to you.

You may not think that what you own is just as material like everything else. In the end guns are pointed to make them do what they want them to do.

I Owe You what I don't have but you not selling. Which is why loans in practice never existed. I can not loan anything.

You would be stealing what was given to me. In claim I loaned it.

what I want is them to CONFORM..

there are in a society normal things you CONFORM to those.

grow up and not be such a wussy who only does what he likes but recognises you are a member of a team a society with social rules you MUST obey.

that also means buy gifts, buy your own tools, buil enough furniture and chinaware for all your guaests yourself.. and store them away the rest of the year when your not using them like a normal person.. also even when you don't drink coffee you buy a coffee machine just as when you are vegan you buy meat.. just as we buy tea for you we don't drink and veganburgers we not eat.. you buy the things your GUEST like when you are a host.
when there is a bbw or potluck or such you chip in your fair share. you also make sure you have eaten a normal lunch so your not a ravenous beast who plunders halve the food thats ment for 20..
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if there are tasks to do in a team.. or as a family or in the neighbourhood.. you do your fare share of the load.. even if that means working or volenteering a few more hours
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and if all this means you cannot afford your current amount of holidays while only working so few hours than you either stop going to go on so many holidays or work more.. you don't live large if you skimp out and are a d*ck to others.

oh and I not care how you normally like to dress or behave ADAPT.. if it's normal where you go to wear a hat, or shoes, or cover tatoos, or any other etiquette you follow it!
don't be rude..

yes live in your tiny house only having 2 sets of clothing, eating from dumsterdived food while working only 16h a week and be on holiday 9/12 months... but CONFORM..
don't lact like the spoiled little princess.. your likely are raised as single child.. you should have had siblins and gotten a spanking and set borders now and than..
but ok you never got that.. but time to face the real world anyway.. stop acting like a spoiled princes..

[kaibarnard]

As someone who straddles the Gen X/millenial divide

Nah I get it

I can see our generations being looked on poorly, we knew what was likely to happen, we did litlte - the blinkered generation, the uncaring, the generation that fell asleep at the wheel

We're seeing the fraying of capitalism and globalism and we're just like 'shrug' so what, we had the worlds information in our hands, and watched cat videos and people fall into conspiracy and disinformation campaigns....everything's divided so the dividers can turn group A against group B and we....just lap it up

We didn't 'fight the man' like the hippies and the punks, we just got broken down and gave up

It sucks, I'd hate to be in the dating pool, the expectations and demands, and for what?

Nah, the passport bro's and MGTOWers - they're better off - family and that units been attacked and killed

I'm comfortable, but I'm never going to own my house, and wasn't blessed with children, which....I don't know, given how I see the world going, that could be the blessing

We're not lazy, we just surrendered to the inevitable

When it really starts to hit the fan in 20/30 years time and we're all 60+ and our grandchildren look forward and then look to us and what we could have done then, that they can't now, and ask us 'why' we won't be able to justify it, or rationalise it, we lost and gave up....it was too much, and we just shrugged and let it happen

[NoticedAlarm]

引用自 Will be deleted：

USA in particular seems just odd, on paper its economy is doing very well But people living there seems worse of than in many other countries.

This is most definitely because of prices in general. Like rent has gone up, like skyrocketing. Even the prices for fast food has gone way up. Now yes, the USA definitely has one of the best economies in the world. But that money doesn't reflect the people's money.

[tf2 pomson enjoyer #FIXVACPLS]

引用自 NoticedAlarm：

引用自 Will be deleted：

USA in particular seems just odd, on paper its economy is doing very well But people living there seems worse of than in many other countries.

This is most definitely because of prices in general. Like rent has gone up, like skyrocketing. Even the prices for fast food has gone way up. Now yes, the USA definitely has one of the best economies in the world. But that money doesn't reflect the people's money.

20-ish years ago you could get a whole guitar hero meal from mcdonalds for like 7 dollars i've heard

[Hobbit XIII]

引用自 Blue-Eyes White Dragon：

The Boomers like to say they're lazy, but they also didn't grow up in an era where everything was reasonably priced and a college degree was more valuable.

Shut up about Boomers, you don't know what a Boomer is.
A boomer probably wouldn't even use terms like Gen Z.

The only difference between the older generation and the younger generations now is the younger generations have had some things very easily handed to them technological wise.

That is why music is so toilet of the modern era.

As the janitor says in the breakfast club to the teacher :

The younger generation hasn't changed, you have.

[Marius]

Its not laziness. Its people exhausted ny the constand dopamine/serotonines/pr0n, so the brains shutdown any motivations that make people strive and thive to do something (which has to lead to making career, good house etc so it can make offspring)

[luciferous]

Being a Gen Z autistic worker (important to note because around 90% of autistics are unemployed), I often feel like throwing in the towel, because the reward isn't worth the effort anymore.

[talemore]

Anyone who work today work for the next generation.

It is sad than not a single person knows about IOU

[swillfly]

thread answer + solution = No, but it's not merely iGen or Millennials. As they are the main population of the work force then they get both full barrels.

[Rebel the Murderbrat]

I'm not lazy I'm busy doing things people hate

[Tazor]

Why would I work? Have you seen the wages? And the insane requirements even for an entry level job? And the overtime?

It's not worth it. Back during the boomer times a single working man could sustain a family of 4. Now you can't even sustain yourself. You didn't need to know much to get the job. Way less work hours than today.

So long as I got food in my belly I'm good. I will probably end up living in a van or something if I run out of money. No way I will destroy my body overworking myself for nothing. Not even healthcare insurance.