Are trades guys full of crap or are they serious?

[Cyber2B]

Not once has I seen someone post their paystub when the say "I make 200k/yr as a (Insert trade)"

[Hobbit XIII]

I know an electrician he doesn't charge the earth.
He bought his house years ago and had a racing car for his day to day travel.

If you want earn some serious cash get into a trade even plasterers can make some.

[abcd]

60-70k/year is a lot of money.

a tenured professor makes ~$60-80k, though they get another 20k or so in benefits and things.

if you get your living expenses down to 10-20k/year you can make 50k a year and retire in 5-8 years with a 401k.

[St✩rlight]

Why wouldn't they. You could even earn that amount doing some kind of dull office job so why wouldn't a trade earn that much or more?

[ナルゴ]

They can be. But those are usually experts with like 10+ years of experience + building or already owns their own business.
Electricians, plumbers, HVAC, linemen, technicians, etc can have rates pushing $80/hr or more.

The trouble with computing their annual salary though is that their hours are not static. So some may claim that technically they can get 200k annually if they work non-stop, but it's more likely that they do have down time.

[90054321564584560]

lol you haven’t hired them ?

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von abcd:

60-70k/year is a lot of money.

a tenured professor makes ~$60-80k, though they get another 20k or so in benefits and things.

if you get your living expenses down to 10-20k/year you can make 50k a year and retire in 5-8 years with a 401k.

It entirely depends the trade, and quality of the company that's hiring, too.

Trades CAN pay really well, however companies like to try to manipulate the fact they're hiring for a specialized skill, instead of a general one, and try to use that as leverage to underpay workers.

For example a huge flux of "learn underwater welding" was going around like 5-10 years ago, maybe more. What nobody in the field was mentioning, is it's a VERY volatile/niche market.


Or "get into coding", to the point it's so heavily saturated that, well...you NEED to stand out to nab a basic IT job that's more than just phoneline support.

[Schrobes]

Go work an Oil Field or Offshore Drilling. Retire in 5 years.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Schrobes:

Go work an Oil Field or Offshore Drilling. Retire in 5 years.

I have an elder cousin who was making like 6 grand a month on a rig, sadly it blew. Didn't kill him, but put him out of work permanently.

[Hobbit XIII]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Leonardo Da Pinchi:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von abcd:

60-70k/year is a lot of money.

a tenured professor makes ~$60-80k, though they get another 20k or so in benefits and things.

if you get your living expenses down to 10-20k/year you can make 50k a year and retire in 5-8 years with a 401k.

It entirely depends the trade, and quality of the company that's hiring, too.

Trades CAN pay really well, however companies like to try to manipulate the fact they're hiring for a specialized skill, instead of a general one, and try to use that as leverage to underpay workers.

For example a huge flux of "learn underwater welding" was going around like 5-10 years ago, maybe more. What nobody in the field was mentioning, is it's a VERY volatile/niche market.


Or "get into coding", to the point it's so heavily saturated that, well...you NEED to stand out to nab a basic IT job that's more than just phoneline support.

I still say get into coding, its good to be self sufficient to some degree with the machines and can open up more of a hobby for the person to.

BUT

Let's say you got some coding skillz but the toher guy at the interview has more coding skillz.

You can say to the interviewer, with me you not only get my coding skillz, I can deck every worker out with new (insert your tradesman trade here) for their homes, that could save the company money come christmas bonus time?.

Sensible : I always say learn html css js when you get your head round the beginnings of it then its a nice thing to play around with your games and applications / converters etc.

[kbiz]

The trades are lucrative. A master class ability will earn you some bucks.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Hobbit XIII:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Leonardo Da Pinchi:

It entirely depends the trade, and quality of the company that's hiring, too.

Trades CAN pay really well, however companies like to try to manipulate the fact they're hiring for a specialized skill, instead of a general one, and try to use that as leverage to underpay workers.

For example a huge flux of "learn underwater welding" was going around like 5-10 years ago, maybe more. What nobody in the field was mentioning, is it's a VERY volatile/niche market.


Or "get into coding", to the point it's so heavily saturated that, well...you NEED to stand out to nab a basic IT job that's more than just phoneline support.

I still say get into coding, its good to be self sufficient to some degree with the machines and can open up more of a hobby for the person to.

BUT

Let's say you got some coding skillz but the toher guy at the interview has more coding skillz.

You can say to the interviewer, with me you not only get my coding skillz, I can deck every worker out with new (insert your tradesman trade here) for their homes, that could save the company money come christmas bonus time?.

Sensible : I always say learn html css js when you get your head round the beginnings of it then its a nice thing to play around with your games and applications / converters etc.

It is a nice skill to have, if you're into it definitely.

I originally got into it when I was like 13, making mIRC scripts. Then it expanded into HTML for making very basic websites at 15 or so lol.

[St✩rlight]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ;6679490218975246799:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Starlight:

Why wouldn't they. You could even earn that amount doing some kind of dull office job so why wouldn't a trade earn that much or more?

what kinda dull office job pays 16k a month?

I don't know, I've never worked in an office. I don't even know what they do there.

[Cyber2B]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von abcd:

60-70k/year is a lot of money.

a tenured professor makes ~$60-80k, though they get another 20k or so in benefits and things.

if you get your living expenses down to 10-20k/year you can make 50k a year and retire in 5-8 years with a 401k.

You're definitely missing income tax lol nobody ever gets their full salary and that's lower than 200k

[Mr. Malum]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Cyber2B:

Not once has I seen someone post their paystub when the say "I make 200k/yr as a (Insert trade)"

You can, but keep in mind that they might own their own business and thus have to invest a lot of that back in there. You'd certainly not being making this working for someone else. You're definitely busting your hump in these jobs, too. So it's not an easy paycheck.

[Nabster]

In Australia, a plumber or electrician easily make $200k and pay little tax due to cash business. Better than most office job.