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How can i modify voice for in game chat?
(paranoially) looking cheap/free software to edit my voice enough to corrupt any attempts at like "AI" recreation?
Цитата допису: Morkonan:
Цитата допису unassigned:
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sad times but less maddening to know others feel the same way

The EU has done a great deal more than the US in the matter of individual privacy protection against commercial interests.

Цитата допису Morkonan:
... ..ok maybe youre the paranoid one lol. jk but interesting point you made

It's not paranoid thinking if they really are out to get you.... :)

The NSA can/has done that, or something similar. And, I'm sure the UK and other agencies have as well. (Especially the UK - It's not hard to analyze and track voices if you already have access to all the voices.)

Surprisingly, the US still has very robust protections for individual citizens in regards to what government agencies can and can not do. That line is weakening, drastically, though. A government agency can free itself from such restraints simply by buying from commercial suppliers what it can not obtain on its own using legal means... Crazy, huh?

To sum: In terms of protecting yourself from having your voice duplicated and exploited, it's probably a futile effort outside of taking some new precautions regarding incoming calls from unknown numbers that may be scammers looking to target you or those in your social network for "impersonation scams."

Advice:

Don't answer incoming calls from unknown numbers - Shuffle them directly to voice-mail. Or, if you do answer those calls, maybe use a phone app to disguise your voice when doing so. (I don't know what to recommend, there. Put a piece of plastic film (sandwich bag) over the mic or cover it partially with your finger until you recognize the call as legit.

Don't post naked recordings of you voice to social media accounts. You can alter it slightly using simple sound overlays controls available in most recording software. Or, use an AI Voice, yourself, using your own as part of the instruction model.

Unplug the network cable of your "SmartTV" or disable its microphone. Yes, it has one. Yes, it can record ambient voices whenever it is directed to do so. (That doesn't mean it "is," though.)

If you use any of the popular voice assistants, like Siri et al, everyone who can buy your voice profile has already been sold your voice profile by Facebook and Google... It's too late. :)

Nobody with a legit legal purpose wants to duplicate your voice. And, anyone with criminal intent can only want to use it as part of a human interface - Disguising themselves as you in an impostor-scam. We do not have reliable "Star-Trek multi-factor voice authentication" yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rERApU26PcA
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Цитата допису TGC> The Games Collector:
hmz, I had free voice modding software with my soundblaster card.

Pretty sure there's some freeware around online that'll do the same.
lmao finally an actual answer. was hoping there was some super popular software, but i guess not. gonna have to actually do work lol

It's all over the place. All you have to do is a simple search for "voice changing software" and you'll get plenty of hits.

The odds are pretty low that any commercial company recording your voice is going to want to impersonate it. They will track what they can identify that you say, who you talk to, etc, and will attempt to use it to train their voice models.

It is possible that criminals could do so, but they would use your own recordings posted to social or your interactions with scammers/cloners by voice-chat or phone. Don't answer voice-calls from numbers you don't know...

https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/ai-scam-artists-impersonate-familiar-voices-scams/
Just channel the spirit of Gilbert Gottfried and no one will want you to chat anyway.
There's programs fro it however i don't know them. I know you can customize it alot so it sounds alright.
Цитата допису Morkonan:
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2 actually good replies, weekend steam not as insane as i previously thought :P
but yeah, its mainly wanting to avoid aiding the training for voice models. futile, i know, but something i'd like to avoid doing, if only to do a tin-foil hat "i told you so" 20 years from now
Цитата допису Chaosolous:
I was dead serious!
my bad, writing an aristocrats joke after i post this
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Цитата допису Morkonan:
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2 actually good replies, weekend steam not as insane as i previously thought :P
but yeah, its mainly wanting to avoid aiding the training for voice models. futile, i know, but something i'd like to avoid doing, if only to do a tin-foil hat "i told you so" 20 years from now

Well, even the smartphone companies could do it... Read their privacy/data agreements.

So, anywhere you use your voice to communicate is suspect. :)

The issue is that it's doubtful there's a legitimate use for your voice, specifically. The people who'd want to use it would be scammers directly targeting you. I suppose it's possible they could automate the scam, but that'd be pretty sophisticated and require a big data breach.

You could attempt more direct obfuscation. Tape a plastic bag over the mic. Play music in the background. Use text-to-voice converters. (Plenty of free ones out there) I've got a text-to-speech
"Cylon" voice synth.

Duplicating some voices is hard...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2EdTAHPcqg

I wonder if generative AI could really duplicate such a hard to duplicate "voice?" Hmm.. That'd be cheaper than buying thousands of dollars worth of no-longer-produced high-end analog tech.
Цитата допису Morkonan:

Well, even the smartphone companies could do it... Read their privacy/data agreements.
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i avoid any kind of voice input for this reason, though im sure my locked phone is still able to hear me. i just feel so uncomfortable that this is all allowed, so take whatever comforts i can create for myself.

i dont think its even really about how useful all the data collection is, like all facebook's work only made its platform unappealing to anyone discerning and i think the marketing uses are vastly overstated for profit. like how many people out here actually intentionally clicking on google ads?

just dont want to participate and like to maintain at least the illusion of privacy

thanks for thought out repsonses though, its appreciated
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Цитата допису unassigned:
i avoid any kind of voice input for this reason, though im sure my locked phone is still able to hear me. i just feel so uncomfortable that this is all allowed, so take whatever comforts i can create for myself.

i dont think its even really about how useful all the data collection is, like all facebook's work only made its platform unappealing to anyone discerning and i think the marketing uses are vastly overstated for profit.

just dont want to participate and like to maintain at least the illusion of privacy

At some point, something so offensive and disturbing will occur that it will prompt a reaction from the public. It is "destined to be" since there's little morality in profiteering from exploiting resources against the will of those who actually own them. My voice is mine. Period.

If I can't give away my right to "Free Speech" or "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness" how in the world would a company have any legitimate commercial right to... "my" voice? If that happened... it'd be fightin' time. (I am very much pro-privacy)

The problem there is whether or not the mega-corps can prevent the desired legislation from being enacted to protect citizens and their personal rights to privacy and freedom from unwanted exploitation...

Until the "Privacy Revolution," companies are making money hand-over-fist by exploiting consumers. That exploitation is intrinsic to their business model - they achieve it by obfuscating their intent, means, and methods of data collection and present a false sense of "corporate protection" they claim to extend to consumers.


Note: The best way to obscure your voice would be to slightly modulate it so that its duplication is identifiable, but not easily detectable by the human ear. You could slightly alter that from service to service, creating a signature modulation for each. After all, people forget that microphones can record sub/super-sonic sounds... that we can't hear. :) (They're just not usually optimized for that) If AI Voice Duplication picks up on that and will include it in a synth'd voice, then you've NSA-levels of identifiable bogus sampling... You could track its use. If you were the NSA, that is.... :)
Цитата допису Morkonan:
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i mean, europe's privacy legislation is a direct result of such data being exploited by the actual nazis' holocaust. but even so the best we've gotten in recent times is GDPR which is pretty half-arsed imo, but still preferable to nothing. though with google's app store now abstracting that stuff so individuals hand off the responsibility to "trusted" partners of google, so the whole thing is more obscured and with less accountability (individual developers dont actually ensure anything so now if anyone wants to fight over it they have to take on basically the largest corp on the planet rather than potentially eking out legislation against less powerful foes)

sad times but less maddening to know others feel the same way

Цитата допису Morkonan:
... You could track its use. If you were the NSA, that is.... :)
ok maybe youre the paranoid one lol. jk but interesting point you made
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Цитата допису unassigned:
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sad times but less maddening to know others feel the same way

The EU has done a great deal more than the US in the matter of individual privacy protection against commercial interests.

Цитата допису Morkonan:
... ..ok maybe youre the paranoid one lol. jk but interesting point you made

It's not paranoid thinking if they really are out to get you.... :)

The NSA can/has done that, or something similar. And, I'm sure the UK and other agencies have as well. (Especially the UK - It's not hard to analyze and track voices if you already have access to all the voices.)

Surprisingly, the US still has very robust protections for individual citizens in regards to what government agencies can and can not do. That line is weakening, drastically, though. A government agency can free itself from such restraints simply by buying from commercial suppliers what it can not obtain on its own using legal means... Crazy, huh?

To sum: In terms of protecting yourself from having your voice duplicated and exploited, it's probably a futile effort outside of taking some new precautions regarding incoming calls from unknown numbers that may be scammers looking to target you or those in your social network for "impersonation scams."

Advice:

Don't answer incoming calls from unknown numbers - Shuffle them directly to voice-mail. Or, if you do answer those calls, maybe use a phone app to disguise your voice when doing so. (I don't know what to recommend, there. Put a piece of plastic film (sandwich bag) over the mic or cover it partially with your finger until you recognize the call as legit.

Don't post naked recordings of you voice to social media accounts. You can alter it slightly using simple sound overlays controls available in most recording software. Or, use an AI Voice, yourself, using your own as part of the instruction model.

Unplug the network cable of your "SmartTV" or disable its microphone. Yes, it has one. Yes, it can record ambient voices whenever it is directed to do so. (That doesn't mean it "is," though.)

If you use any of the popular voice assistants, like Siri et al, everyone who can buy your voice profile has already been sold your voice profile by Facebook and Google... It's too late. :)

Nobody with a legit legal purpose wants to duplicate your voice. And, anyone with criminal intent can only want to use it as part of a human interface - Disguising themselves as you in an impostor-scam. We do not have reliable "Star-Trek multi-factor voice authentication" yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rERApU26PcA
cyberpunk 2077 is using this xVASynth v3 - CPVA Synth https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/2162


there are now over 50 alternative voices for both V's mods for the game
Цитата допису Bunni Bealla:
I stg if OP is going to use this for what I think they're going to uwu
sadly not gender expressive enough to need something like that lol
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