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Do killing in self-defense is a sin?
If you kill a aggresive sociopath who wanted to kill or kill you family, does it count as sin or not? I think not, since you didnt had other choice
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Probably. Self defense or not, a kill is a kill.
There's a reason the word "martyr" gets thrown around a lot within the context of the Bible. You're supposed to just take it I guess.
Turn the other cheek or whatever.

Unless you mean not religious, then killing in self defense isn't super punishable if you can prove it was self defense afaik. I'm not a lawyer so this advice is not legally binding.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από GlaceonChireiden; 20 Ιουν 2023, 0:03
Yes but God is theoretically able to forgive you for this sin, if he feels like it for whatever reason.

Legally, in the US, it's classified as a form of temporary insanity which is legally recognized as valid due to precedence. As such the supreme court could, at any time, decide to revoke it based on whimsy.

The US is one of the few jurisdictions with a strong legal system to recognize self defense as a valid and broadly applicable plea. Even other commonwealth jurisdictions reserve it as a 'special circumstances' defense up to the whim of the magistrate.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από permanent name; 20 Ιουν 2023, 0:08
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Probably. Self defense or not, a kill is a kill.
There's a reason the word "martyr" gets thrown around a lot within the context of the Bible. You're supposed to just take it I guess.
Turn the other cheek or whatever.

Unless you mean not religious, then killing in self defense isn't super punishable if you can prove it was self defense afaik. I'm not a lawyer so this advice is not legally binding.

Ok so, what i am supposed to do if somebody wanna kill me? Just let him kill me because God says murder is no no.
I dont think that self-defense is count as murder
No, I consider that everything is good to protect your own life. When you protect your life you're not only protecting your life, you protect the pets who depend on you, your childs if you have some, your relatives, etc. It's not only about you, but also about the persons who depend on you or love you. You can't just let the other guy kill you that easilly, you have to be harder to kill than that.
It is. Because defending does not have attack, and with that, no killing blow.
If the other guy die then you aim to kill.
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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από JustSomeLego:
Probably. Self defense or not, a kill is a kill.
There's a reason the word "martyr" gets thrown around a lot within the context of the Bible. You're supposed to just take it I guess.
Turn the other cheek or whatever.

Unless you mean not religious, then killing in self defense isn't super punishable if you can prove it was self defense afaik. I'm not a lawyer so this advice is not legally binding.

Ok so, what i am supposed to do if somebody wanna kill me? Just let him kill me because God says murder is no no.
I dont think that self-defense is count as murder
Pretty much. Welcome to Christianity, where the rules make as much sense as the rest of it does.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από GlaceonChireiden; 20 Ιουν 2023, 0:14
In my religion God don't see it as killing because you was defending yourself. Now you kill someone out of anger or whatever else then you would have broken the 6th commandment. Thou shall not kill.
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It is. Because defending does not have attack, and with that, no killing blow.
If the other guy die then you aim to kill.

The arrow lands where it goes, and the target is drawn afterwards.
No. Kill or be killed. When they attack, win.
The self-defence paragraph is very clear. It's not a question of sin in that situation, but the appropriateness of the means to avert an unlawful attack.

The laws already contain the valid morality. ,-)
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Mauserich; 20 Ιουν 2023, 1:04
Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Goldias:
It is. Because defending does not have attack, and with that, no killing blow.
If the other guy die then you aim to kill.

How naive ... I always remember this story about a woman, beaten by her husband who freaked out, fleed in the kitchen and grabed a knife to keep her husband away from her. But the guy was so angry he rushed at her no matter what and impaled himself on the knife, before dying.

So, what about this case for example ? And there is plenty of cases like this one. That's why you don't judge real world events on pure morals, you need to take the situation into account. Those who don't understand that, in a fight, things become chaotic and ugly really quick, probably never had to fight for real in their life ... In a real fight you're facing a lot of stress and you lose a lot of your physical and mental abilities as a result. Judging those cases in a quiet and civilized place make them look horrible, that's why you have to remember that's not that simple.
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How naive ... I always remember this story about a woman, beaten by her husband who freaked out, fleed in the kitchen and grabed a knife to keep her husband away from her. But the guy was so angry he rushed at her no matter what and impaled himself on the knife, before dying.

So, what about this case for example ? And there is plenty of cases like this one. That's why you don't judge real world events on pure morals, you need to take the situation into account. Those who don't understand that, in a fight, things become chaotic and ugly really quick, probably never had to fight for real in their life ... In a real fight you're facing a lot of stress and you lose a lot of your physical and mental abilities as a result. Judging those cases in a quiet and civilized place make them look horrible, that's why you have to remember that's not that simple.

Still a sin, doesn't mean I won't stab the hell out of him though. :cozykcdaxe: I'm not religious guy.
Also anyone who's so afraid to commit a sin to save their own life, should go live with god.
From what I've experienced, no I don't believe it's a sin.
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Probably. Self defense or not, a kill is a kill.
There's a reason the word "martyr" gets thrown around a lot within the context of the Bible. You're supposed to just take it I guess.
Turn the other cheek or whatever.

Unless you mean not religious, then killing in self defense isn't super punishable if you can prove it was self defense afaik. I'm not a lawyer so this advice is not legally binding.

Ok so, what i am supposed to do if somebody wanna kill me? Just let him kill me because God says murder is no no.
I dont think that self-defense is count as murder

Bible says turn the other cheek. Sit there and take it, unless you want to actually be a sinner in the eyes of your god. Meek shall inherit the Earth and whatnot, it's a sin to be violent period.
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