Dwolfin 2023 年 6 月 19 日 上午 7:06
Whats your opinion on Windows 10 vs. Windows 11?
Support for Windows 10 will end October 14th, 2025. This has caused outrage and concerns. This action is Microsoft mass forcing users to move to Windows 11 by this date.

Many opinions of 11 is that its nearly worse in every imaginable way. Its much more simplistic, and has removed a lot of features. Privacy settings have been reduced further as well.
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kilésengati 2023 年 6 月 19 日 上午 7:59 
引用自 🐬 Dwolfin 🐺
引用自 kilésengati

Dwolfin OS. ;P
but what really lol

Pop!_OS and Steam OS. I use Arch, btw. ;P
Dwolfin 2023 年 6 月 19 日 上午 8:00 
引用自 kilésengati
引用自 🐬 Dwolfin 🐺
but what really lol

Pop!_OS and Steam OS. I use Arch, btw. ;P
eww pop
kilésengati 2023 年 6 月 19 日 上午 8:02 
引用自 🐬 Dwolfin 🐺
引用自 kilésengati

Pop!_OS and Steam OS. I use Arch, btw. ;P
eww pop

M'kay.
Candyy 2023 年 6 月 19 日 上午 8:06 
I mostly use my phone :steambored:
metamec 2023 年 6 月 19 日 上午 8:08 
I prefer 11, specifically because of being able to run Linux (WSL2) apps and Android apps (only the Amazon Appstore is officially supported) like normal Windows apps. W11 just has a cross platform versatility than previous Windows versions lack.

Yes, WSL exists in Windows 10, but for me it never worked as well as it does in Windows 11. Windowed (X) applications in particular. It does work best with an Nvidia card though because the GPU acceleration in WSL2 needs CUDA.
最後修改者:metamec; 2023 年 6 月 19 日 上午 8:08
Dutchgamer1982 2023 年 6 月 19 日 上午 8:20 
I was a fan of the windows xp era.. for over a decade the same OS.. (though it did recieve 3 servicepacks, massively changing it over that decade seeing change to 64 bit, the internet arising etc..

starting with windows 7.. microsoft sees that as "a mistake" and want to have versions of windows follow eachother up faster... basicly where once we had
win xp , winxp SP1, winXP SP2 win XP SP3...
-we now have win 7, win 8, win 8.1, win 10

it's a cashgrab and we know it, nothing secure about it.

another bad move has been the stripping of features that used to be included in basic/home editions and making them exclusive to the ultimate and pro versions.
***it is totally fine those versions had extra features.. but to take features away that always were in the home and basic versions in newer windows versions.. again corporate scumbaggery....

another bad move.. is the hard attack on full retail versions.. originally every windows copy was a full retail copy (meaning you could install it on any pc, and sell the software) cost than was about 130 euro for a windows licence...
->
they than did make almost all windows licences oem (bound to your motherboard, cannot resell or reuse). but dropped the price to 90 euro.. - full retail versions were also sold, but did cost now 230 euro
->
for windows 10 they drove this retail price even further up, to well over 300 euro.. and they made it so the full retail version was only available on usb.. while the fysical oem versions did excist on dvd.. (yes buying a boxed fysical copy is not the same as buyign a full retail licence).. knowing that installing from usb was more a hassle.. (and making it harder to use your legal right to make a copy for home use, should your fysical copy ever get damaged)
->
with windows 11.. MS declared it will be the last version that will even sell full retail versions...


****
the bloat/spyware that has been going up since windows 8 and beyond is real.. sure you can turn it all off, if you know how.. but fact is MS is collecting data.. in an era privacy is important..
we have not forgotten crap like windows 7 "updates" that would "update" you to windows 10 even without asking you for permissing... and it has gotten worse since.,..
control of the user over the update center has in windows 10 and 11 is a lot lower.

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and finally the hardware demands of windows 11... are outright bad.
it reminds me of the same wastefullness of cellphones...

my nokia 8 phone had a newer cpu, was five times more powerfull than the nokia 2.1 that came out 2 years later.. in fact.. it was more powerfull that most nokias that came out since.. yet that 2.1 did recieve an update to the next android, and that 8 did not..
*****all because release date*****
-> anybody could see that that nokia 8 could run that newer OS bettter than all those nokia 2, 3, 5 etc that came out after it... but nope hard locked out.
**planned obselecense for you....

windows 11 has a similair insane demand... need to have a recent enough cpu (and thus motherboard & ram)

I dare say that my i7 6950x with 128gb ddr4 at 2800mhz, cas14.. is a more powerfull combination than at least 80% of the cpu's and motherboards that DO qualify.

yet instead of microsoft doing the rational thing and locking out cpu's based on their benchmarkscore for this new OS.. they lock them out based on generation.
-> and it was intel who willingly released those 1600 enthousiast gpu's with 1 or 2 generations OLDER layout.. than the mainstream cpu......

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it is like if you would lock all cars older than 5y out of a city center, "for enviroment"
letting in brand new suv's on diesel 1:3 that emit heaps... but blocking out a 6yo 100% electic vehicle...

MADNESS...

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And to than do that and ALSO stop sales of your last OS that would work for those other systems.. with services like steam (and chrome) cutting off OS support..
leaves you without an upgrade path.. other than toss perfectly fine working hardware.. to buy newer but lower specced new hardware.. just to keep "on the road"

has nothing to do with "security" it's a planned obselesance cash crab.
PsychoPsyops 2023 年 6 月 19 日 上午 8:43 
Windows is going the way of iOS as far as version release frequency and small quantity of features added. Sure it’s getting slightly better year by year, but it’s more or less for job security now.
HypersleepyNaputunia 2023 年 6 月 19 日 上午 8:49 
thanks microcreep for being such a "green" company with artificial obsolescenc withh win 11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUCRZEj4QQo
Anosmyk 2023 年 6 月 19 日 上午 8:51 
While I am on windows 11. I did perfer windows 10, it was way easier to navigate in my opinion I think. Windows 11 is a bit messier.
Heitor Villa-Lobos 2023 年 6 月 19 日 上午 9:02 
引用自 metamec
I prefer 11, specifically because of being able to run Linux (WSL2) apps and Android apps (only the Amazon Appstore is officially supported) like normal Windows apps. W11 just has a cross platform versatility than previous Windows versions lack.

Yes, WSL exists in Windows 10, but for me it never worked as well as it does in Windows 11. Windowed (X) applications in particular. It does work best with an Nvidia card though because the GPU acceleration in WSL2 needs CUDA.

You should proably go the other way and run Windows programs via Wine or Proton. Better yet would be to change your stack/flow and switch to alternatives native to GNU/Linux.
Heitor Villa-Lobos 2023 年 6 月 19 日 上午 9:04 
引用自 Midori
If you ever want your PC to feel fast, use Windows 11 for a week, then go back to 10.

The removal of the artificial delay to everything truly feels great

Go to GNU/Linux after a week of Win11 and you'll feel like you own a NASA computer.
HypersleepyNaputunia 2023 年 6 月 19 日 上午 9:10 
puppy linux on anything and go back you are lightspeed
metamec 2023 年 6 月 19 日 上午 9:12 
引用自 Heitor Villa-Lobos

You should proably go the other way and run Windows programs via Wine or Proton. Better yet would be to change your stack/flow and switch to alternatives native to GNU/Linux.

No thanks. I've maintained Linux installations for over twenty years and check in on Wine regularly. With regards cross platform application support in a single desktop operating system environment, it is in no way comparable to or better than what Windows 11 presently offers with WSL2.
最後修改者:metamec; 2023 年 6 月 19 日 上午 9:13
Devsman 2023 年 6 月 19 日 上午 9:14 
Literally Windows 8.

The OS they released as Windows 7 was actually a minor version of Windows 6 (Vista). 8 also.

10, they gave a major version of 10, skipping 7, 8 and 9 completely for no reason, probably because people started figuring out that 7 and 8 were both minor versions of Vista, but that's just as dumb as skipping 9, so I'm calling "10" the real 7.

Which would make "11" the real 8. Of course, they dropped the build number format completely, which was probably a good move since they've proven they can't count anyway. But those of us who CAN count know it's the real Windows 8.
Heitor Villa-Lobos 2023 年 6 月 19 日 上午 9:16 
引用自 metamec
引用自 Heitor Villa-Lobos

You should proably go the other way and run Windows programs via Wine or Proton. Better yet would be to change your stack/flow and switch to alternatives native to GNU/Linux.

No thanks. I've maintained Linux installations for over twenty years and check in on Wine regularly. With regards cross platform application support in a single desktop operating system environment, it is in no way comparable to or better than what Windows 11 presently offers with WSL2.

It is better as you are not using Windows as your main OS, simply as that.
Again, you'd probably be better off switching applications as well.

But do suit yourself.
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