whats your opinion on genocide?

[Es Me smellyfinger]

can you give a definition, especialy american people?

[Es Me smellyfinger]

it actually happened in a very simplistic way in germany and also in africa uttu and tutsi case. except it was more sophisticated with the special treatment codification of the administration in germany, to hide the reality to the civil population.

[Es Me smellyfinger]

and also in america because some newspaper were appealing to kill the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ while they were actually being killed and never been on trial for spreading those informations by the whitehouse.

[Your_White_Knight]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Triple G:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho4hxuvX3Ro

Yet the Holocaust get only "a" day... when "pride" gets a whole month...

Tell me about "humanity's" priorities without telling me about "humanity's" priorities...

[Es Me smellyfinger]

hearts is the n word for indians.

[Triple G]

Opprinnelig skrevet av highlord of cringe:

well this is a caricatural demonstration but this is what you need to prove to be able to call it a genocide.

"Article II of the Genocide Convention contains a narrow definition of the crime of genocide, which includes two main elements:

A mental element:
the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such"; and

A physical element, which includes the following five acts, enumerated exhaustively:
Killing members of the group
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

The intent is the most difficult element to determine. To constitute genocide, there must be a proven intent on the part of perpetrators to physically destroy a national, ethnical, racial or religious group. Cultural destruction does not suffice, nor does an intention to simply disperse a group. It is this special intent, or dolus specialis, that makes the crime of genocide so unique. In addition, case law has associated intent with the existence of a State or organizational plan or policy, even if the definition of genocide in international law does not include that element.

Importantly, the victims of genocide are deliberately targeted - not randomly – because of their real or perceived membership of one of the four groups protected under the Convention (which excludes political groups, for example). This means that the target of destruction must be the group, as such, and not its members as individuals. Genocide can also be committed against only a part of the group, as long as that part is identifiable (including within a geographically limited area) and “substantial.”

[Es Me smellyfinger]

and it obviously happened in many other places on earth i dont technicaly know and i can't talk about.

[Your_White_Knight]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Snow ☯:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Your_White_Knight:

None of that will ever happen... none of that even made any sense at all... not even a little bit.

O.k. time to start blocking more trolls... goodbye OP, have a nice ( but delusional ) life.

Did you see the debate on this with Nuance Bro with a Generation Z for Change dude who thought that 30% of black people were killed every year by the police?

Wouldn't surprise me... the Internet spreads disinformation quicker then ever and people are more gullible then ever living on the Internet... it's surprising the world hasn't destroyed itself yet

[Sixtyfivekills]

If its mosquitoes, I fully support it. Frogs can eat other flies for all I care.

[Chunk Norris ☯]

Is it bad that after Star Wars has released yet another character to survive Order 66 that I'm starting to become a genocide Order 66 denier.

[Triple G]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Your_White_Knight:

Yet the Holocaust get only "a" day... when "pride" gets a whole month...

Tell me about "humanity's" priorities without telling me about "humanity's" priorities...

You probably can´t earn much money if You dedicate a whole month to the holocaust. It´s not exactly a celebration. But imho You shouldn´t use it to promote against the pride month either, as that isn´t the "use" of that day - because it could show the priorities of individuals..

[Your_White_Knight]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Triple G:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Your_White_Knight:

Yet the Holocaust get only "a" day... when "pride" gets a whole month...

Tell me about "humanity's" priorities without telling me about "humanity's" priorities...

You probably can´t earn much money if You dedicate a whole month to the holocaust.

So you say this month "celebrations" is about making money?....

Or are you saying people should be making money off the holocaust?

I'm confused here... that's some hot take you have there... even coming from you.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Triple G:

It´s not exactly a celebration. But imho You shouldn´t use it to promote against the pride month either, as that isn´t the "use" of that day - because it could show the priorities of individuals..

The holocaust is a remembrance... to remember and morn those lost, to celebrate those who survived.. just like this month no? Using "celebrate" is a misnomer for either.

It's also not "promoting against" it's comparing too... your bias is obvious you're trying to use this as some sort of soapbox to preach on, but it's not working....

My point is... IMO people put more importance on the wrong things... and that's not correct, they should worry about those who actually need more attention, not just because it's "fun" to "celebrate" only the "good things".

For that matter... Veterans's "Day" should be more then a day as well... there should be more of "months" that are only "days" and more "days" that are "months"... the biases are backwards because people's priorities are backwards... sex =/= important then life or death.

[Ysosrscat]

Immigration and antinatalist propaganda, "its not happening, its happening and its a good thing".

[Chunk Norris ☯]

“Because history is edited, most people today don’t realize that to get to the point where Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousands of Jews, the government first made their own neighbors hate them simply for being Jews,” -Gina Carano

[Triple G]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Your_White_Knight:

So you say this month "celebrations" is about making money?....

Or are you saying people should be making money off the holocaust?

I'm confused here... that's some hot take you have there... even coming from you.

I say every celebration holiday, or month is about making money. Same as Christmas, or veteran´s day, or anything. It´s a special occasion, so automatically shortened supply, for certain goods and services - for a limited time. I never said something different.

But that doesn´t automatically mean that i say that people, who like to celebrate it, shouldn´t do that - or that they don´t "deserve" that month or holiday, if they feel that way. But ultimately You don´t need a special day to remember something, or to celebrate something, or to talk about problems, or to get attention, or to solve certain problem, as anybody could theoretically do this any day of the year. But usually in these discussions it´s less about that, but it´s against certain groups of people, that´s why i usually write something about that - if i write anything.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Your_White_Knight:

It's also not "promoting against" it's comparing too... your bias is obvious you're trying to use this as some sort of soapbox to preach on, but it's not working....

Nono, i meant the general "You", and not You directly - and i said "could" as possibility. Because that isn´t working either. ;o) I don´t think we need to sort this out in this thread, because it´s a side-statement of a side-question, of the topic. :o)

[Your_White_Knight]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Triple G:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Your_White_Knight:

So you say this month "celebrations" is about making money?....

Or are you saying people should be making money off the holocaust?

I'm confused here... that's some hot take you have there... even coming from you.

I say every celebration holiday, or month is about making money. Same as Christmas, or veteran´s day, or anything. It´s a special occasion, so automatically shortened supply, for certain goods and services - for a limited time. I never said something different.

But that doesn´t automatically mean that i say that people, who like to celebrate it, shouldn´t do that - or that they don´t "deserve" that month or holiday, if they feel that way. But ultimately You don´t need a special day to remember something, or to celebrate something, or to talk about problems, or to get attention, or to solve certain problem, as anybody could theoretically do this any day of the year. But usually in these discussions it´s less about that, but it´s against certain groups of people, that´s why i usually write something about that - if i write anything.

That's leaning into "capitalism / anti-capitalism" area though... the cart shouldn't be before the horse...

People were having such days ~just to celebrate~ before ( some not all ) have become nothing more then a cash grab... Christmas is celebrating Christ's birth before it became a fat man in a red suit going down one's chimney to give things to people... that's just more entropy of what was into hollow and shallow "humanity's" take on things...

But more to the point... if any "day / week / month" is viewed as nothing more then "capitalism" or "a way to make profit" then I have to question the motives of the viewer... not of the day itself. The idea isn't corrupt... the corruption lays in the persons being critical of it becoming "only for profit".

Some of us do and would still celebrate Christmas... with nothing but honoring Christ.

So aside from strawman arguments....

Opprinnelig skrevet av Triple G:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Your_White_Knight:

It's also not "promoting against" it's comparing too... your bias is obvious you're trying to use this as some sort of soapbox to preach on, but it's not working....

Nono, i meant the general "You", and not You directly - and i said "could" as possibility. Because that isn´t working either. ;o) I don´t think we need to sort this out in this thread, because it´s a side-statement of a side-question, of the topic. :o)

Ahhh.. sorry, didn't get the inflection of that... correct, let's not derail this into gun control or capitalism debates... agree.

In short:

"Humanity" should be keeping the important things the correct order of things... that's all.