Is a College Degree Worth It?

[𝕁𝕒𝕔𝕜𝕝𝕖]

Is a college degree truly required to have a successful, laid back, high paying life in the modern era?

[De Hollandse Ezel]

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Escrito originalmente por kingjames488:

oh ya, I've always loved learning things... I just gave up on the "teaching" system when I found it was more about learning to listen to what you're told rather than actually learning anything...

of course you listen because that is how you pass the tests

if you dont pass the tests, how does the school measure success?

if the school cant measure success, how does the school know what is working?

if the school does not know what is working, how does the school know what classes to fund?

but you are free to have you own opinions

most the stuff is not to tesr ability.

-you passed the theory test top of your class : 600 pages learned in 2 hours easy.
-you passed your internship : great review of your boss there. 2 hours a week x 3 months =

yet you still flunk cause you must write some nonsensical "self reflection paper" after each lesson and after each time you did internship..
wasting 500 hours and with the teacher even admitting it is pointless and just cause some students need that but for you it adds nothing..

it is like primary school.. when the teacher forced you to make 100 practuce calculations.. as homework before each calculus lesson.
-I would just make 1st and last and ignored rest it was all the training i needed.. teacher discovered i nevee made homework after a test I got 10/10.
yet punished me with a 1/10 just for not having made the homework I clearly not needed.

[kingjames488]

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Escrito originalmente por Eld3r:

of course you listen because that is how you pass the tests

if you dont pass the tests, how does the school measure success?

if the school cant measure success, how does the school know what is working?

if the school does not know what is working, how does the school know what classes to fund?

but you are free to have you own opinions

most the stuff is not to tesr ability.

-you passed the theory test top of your class : 600 pages learned in 2 hours easy.
-you passed your internship : great review of your boss there. 2 hours a week x 3 months =

yet you still flunk cause you must write some nonsensical "self reflection paper" after each lesson and after each time you did internship..
wasting 500 hours and with the teacher even admitting it is pointless and just cause some students need that but for you it adds nothing..

it was literally listen to class-pass test.

the entire system is idiot proof... and that's why there's no progress anymore.
everyone is allowed in... and when someone intelligent comes along they're not allowed in because they didn't pass the social test.

[arinfled]

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You can live comfortably with or without a degree, as long as you can live on a budget and avoid starting a family too soon. If you'd like a stressful life, try getting a degree but then never having the time or money to chase down careers that take advantage of it (don't actually try this).

you realize it is possible to get a degree without stress?

just dont consider high school the last option

You misread my comment.

[kingjames488]

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Escrito originalmente por kingjames488:

it was literally listen to class-pass test.

the entire system is idiot proof... and that's why there's no progress anymore.
everyone is allowed in... and when someone intelligent comes along they're not allowed in because they didn't pass the social test.

so have fun being a socialist failure.

guys, just come to the US

write 500 words?

you're the CEO

don't even have to, just have the AI do it...

cheaper than farming it out to an asian essay farm.

edit: farm.

[kingjames488]

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Escrito originalmente por kingjames488:

don't even have to, just have the AI do it...

cheaper than farming it out to an asian essay farm.

edit: farm.

probably a better ceo too

than what? the opinions on twitter?

[kingjames488]

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than what? the opinions on twitter?

x?

eff that site

tworxer?

[Mega Ultra Chicken]

Depends on what you want to do as a career. If you want to be an engineer or nurse, you need a degree. You can get jobs by just going to a trade school though. I would advise against getting a degree if you're not sure what you want to do with your life.

[Grumb]

Only if you’re going into STEM or something else that’s actually high paying. Also, and I cannot stress this enough DO NOT take out loans if you are not 100% on what you want to major in. I was lucky enough to get scholarships but I didn’t know what I was doing my first year. Took a bunch of classes that have nothing to do with my current degree, some don’t even give me credits. Even now I’m not 100% on my degree

[Professor]

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Yes the ability to pay for higher education seems to be more brawn than brain LOL As for education making it work for you, sounds limiting. They cant help everyone as only the best will do, the top few out of an ocean of highly educated individuals, as there will never be enough room for everyone to be elite.

it's mostly circumstance that both allowed them to be educated and gave them the means to act on it...

look at anyone successful, it's usually like "oh ya, I had a degree in _______", but I used my dads money to start a _______________ and sell not-a-flamethrower and then send a farrari into space..."

the most you hear from someone who just went to school is like "oh ya, I started from nothing and worked really hard and now own several condos that I'm about to lose a fortunue on in the upcoming housing bubble collapse because I'm a tool!".

Circumstantial is probably correct as that is what they mean when they say "Equality in opportunity not outcomes" I know of people that didn't even finish schooling & left school in their mid teenage years, but went on to make fortunes. And yes their are also those who have everything given to them that raises expectations to continue on with the family business.

For me, self made probably means starting from scratch & in the dirt with nothing more than the shirt on your back. But what is not often seen these days, is that making a fortune may be easy as the real challenge is keeping it.

[Mega Ultra Chicken]

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Escrito originalmente por BlackDragon875:

Depends on what you want to do as a career. If you want to be an engineer or nurse, you need a degree. You can get jobs by just going to a trade school though. I would advise against getting a degree if you're not sure what you want to do with your life.

sorry, i disagree

i have known a LOT of people with degrees outside of their field who would never have been considered without that basic BS/MS degree

Yeah, but degrees don't guarantee you'll get jobs. I have a friend who double majored and has 2 degrees but still struggles to get hired. A degree just gets your foot in the door (as in getting the interview). There's no point in spending so much money on something you're not even remotely interested in.

[Fake]

If degrees equals high playing jobs, why are people demanding that their college loans/debts be forgiven?

Let that sink in.

[Professor]

For so many people, degrees promise the world & yet for so many that dream remains illusive. Higher education may slightly increase your chances of success, however that elite level of success is not available for everyone, even with degrees.

I suppose the reasons are vast & varied but I always come back to the nature of Capitalism. I often think that it favours the Corporations to have such a large ocean of highly skilled & educated individuals. But on the other hand the vast majority in that ocean will never reach those levels of eliteness. It seems to be designed for the very few as not everybody can be number 1

[Fake]

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If degrees equals high playing jobs, why are people demanding that their college loans/debts be forgiven?

Let that sink in.

because debt sucks?

Why did they go into debt?

[Professor]

Escrito originalmente por Eld3r:

Escrito originalmente por Professor:

For so many people, degrees promise the world & yet for so many that dream remains illusive. Higher education may slightly increase your chances of success, however that elite level of success is not available for everyone, even with degrees.

I suppose the reasons are vast & varied but I always come back to the nature of Capitalism. I am starting to think that it favours the Corporations to have such a large ocean of highly skilled & educated individuals. But on the other hand the vast majority in that ocean will never reach those levels of eliteness. It seems to be designed for the very few as not everybody can be number 1

how to explain that my sorry high school drop out ass got to the elite leve?

LOL & true for so so many others as well as i said it may seem easy to make a fortune where the real challenge is keeping it.

[Mega Ultra Chicken]

Escrito originalmente por Professor:

For so many people, degrees promise the world & yet for so many that dream remains illusive. Higher education may slightly increase your chances of success, however that elite level of success is not available for everyone, even with degrees.

I suppose the reasons are vast & varied but I always come back to the nature of Capitalism. I often think that it favours the Corporations to have such a large ocean of highly skilled & educated individuals. But on the other hand the vast majority in that ocean will never reach those levels of eliteness. It seems to be designed for the very few as not everybody can be number 1

Yeah, it's telling of the U.S. economy and the capitalistic society we live in today. The issue is housing prices keep going up while working wages remain stagnant. Also, the middle class is shrinking in size.