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Are most college degrees useless?
Seems like everything is a meme degree unless it's math/engineering, healthcare, or law school.
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Amen, I’m getting an actual STEM degree but honestly I don’t know how happy I’m gonna be with it once I graduate. I should’ve just done engineering or something
Автор сообщения: Grumb
Amen, I’m getting an actual STEM degree but honestly I don’t know how happy I’m gonna be with it once I graduate. I should’ve just done engineering or something

I believe you should be studying for a art history or gender studies degree myself, you will be happier in the long run knowing you be making a different to people's lives:steammocking::steammocking:

Anyway, JOKE ASIDE:steamhappy::steamhappy:

Grumb... I believe you truly making the right choice going the STEM route. Once my own daughter leaves school and start higher education, I want her too go this route or maybe accounting/maths/business.
Автор сообщения: Ganger
Автор сообщения: Grumb
Amen, I’m getting an actual STEM degree but honestly I don’t know how happy I’m gonna be with it once I graduate. I should’ve just done engineering or something

I believe you should be studying for a art history or gender studies degree myself, you will be happier in the long run knowing you be making a different to people's lives:steammocking::steammocking:

Anyway, JOKE ASIDE:steamhappy::steamhappy:

Grumb... I believe you truly making the right choice going the STEM route. Once my own daughter leaves school and start higher education, I want her too go this route or maybe accounting/maths/business.
For sure, getting an art degree or something is really pointless these days, especially if you’re taking out loans. The problem is that I borderline just kinda stumbled into my program, I’m too far in to change, and I have no idea what I’ll do for work. And I’m worried the pay isn’t gonna be enough to justify this over a technical college. AND I’m worried I’ll need a masters to actually do work I’d enjoy
Another point I want to make is why isn't anyone talking about learning a TRADE. Learning a trade such as electrician, gas engineer, plumber, carpenter, mechanic (car, truck, aircraft) etc is a great career to have.
Автор сообщения: Ganger
Another point I want to make is why isn't anyone talking about learning a TRADE. Learning a trade such as electrician, gas engineer, plumber, carpenter, mechanic (car, truck, aircraft) etc is a great career to have.

England has purposefully shorted its own skilled trades market, essentially limiting apprenticeships below demand for them.

They've exported this practice abroad in order to homogenize real estate prices and buffer their extensive foreign real estate market.
Автор сообщения: Grumb
For sure, getting an art degree or something is really pointless these days, especially if you’re taking out loans. The problem is that I borderline just kinda stumbled into my program, I’m too far in to change, and I have no idea what I’ll do for work. And I’m worried the pay isn’t gonna be enough to justify this over a technical college. AND I’m worried I’ll need a masters to actually do work I’d enjoy

A masters is a must in the tight high end paying job markets. But im sure it will work out for you in the end. Because maths, science, technology and engineering are really useful skills to have and can open many doors for you.

As a parent, im trying to lead my own kids down that maths, accounting, banking, business or even science routes even though im getting negative feedback from my partners family stating, let her do want she wants and let her decide herself.... people who have never done anything worth while in their lives.

Fair comment, I will let her decide for herself but if I let her do what she wants, she would play roblox and fortnite all the time instead of reading books and doing homework.
It depends if you plan on pursuing a career related to that degree. Engineering or Computer Science degrees are probably the best ones to get. Other than that though, a degree looks fancy on a resume but doesn't guarantee you'll get the job.
Автор сообщения: Defenestration
Seems like everything is a meme degree unless it's math/engineering, healthcare, or law school.
sadly

hell even trade schools people jerk themselves off and each other over
having a permit or certificate doesn't mean ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ nowadays


it's idk the name for it but it's like the point where we became so evolved as a first world country that all 4th 3rd and even 2nd wave generations of immigrants or anyone who settled here and had kids p much heavily emphasizes education and college or certifications. To the point that we inverted. China has this issue a lot and we can see it.

P much they have a large majority of the people / population graduate with high honors then go for high positions or bail to another country.

and guess what?!?

just like there are only so many ditch diggers or city construction / maintenance jobs; there are only so many use for scientists, engineers, professors, etc.

also covid really didn't help expose the b.s. employers do to their employees and undermine them that most retired quit left for greener pastures or flat out started their own business / went back to school.

it's why there is a high push for immigrants since any "job" unskilled or requiring less skills or so so skills but paying mediocre to them will be a saving grace.


any job lacking or "shortage" wait no.... """shortage""" of is usually the employers not respecting their workers / horrible pay / horrible long hours / stressful jobs / no appreciation. Teachers, police, sanitation workers, factory workers, etc.
also any job that isn't 100% full proof like 18 wheeler drivers or on basis (idk the term) employment meaning employers can fire you for little to no reason.




tl;dr

degrees, no matter how stupid or convoluted, are not the issue!
there is an over saturation of degrees and certificates. Which is good for a developed society. But overall it's not good for business or job markets.





like it or not jobs and companies are pyramid shaped. With the lazy dumbasses up top that do nothing and would cause more harm at the bottom 90% of the time, to the middle management who are semi competent semi reliable depending on the positions, to the bottom barrel unskilled / no skills requiring labor / on floor / in office positions that make most of the products / deals.

when you move even a slight majority to the other positions it's like playing Jenga with jobs.

You can also blame government and activists for "quotas" which we all know what it means. So people care more about being in the right / morally higher or superior than actually making sure society keeps functioning.

i'm not against promotions which is honestly good. It means you're doing okay enough to move up or worked enough / long enough to be a valuable asset to the company.
but we also need to offer better incentives / flat out higher pay to attract more workers in other sectors lacking.
Отредактировано Fumo Bnnuy n Frends; 15 окт. 2023 г. в 1:58
Degree are never useless. it demonstrate that you are a worker who has self-discipline, long term commitment and not a random who can quit and leave whenever they want.

It can force HR to unlock your pay gap from a limited 2k to unlimited opportunities such as profit sharing of 20k.

When market value of school or diploma is only 2k, no matter how good you have performed or how long you have worked, HR workers have to just pay you 2k or they will be fired. That's how companies work.
Отредактировано Irene ❤; 15 окт. 2023 г. в 2:22
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