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coldred243 2014년 12월 27일 오후 2시 50분
Avenged Sevenfold is overrated
I feel like I'm the only one who personally thinks that this band just plain sucks, and its a band that wannabe metal fans like. There songs are soft, almost take no skill to play and people act as if that they are pioneers of the Nu Metal age. I strongly disagree. I personally think that the two front runners are Pantera and early Slipknot (after Iowa Slipknot has gone down in terms of great and heavy music but they are still ok nowadays). I personally just don't get all of the hype for this band. Does anyone agree?

FYI If you want some hard ♥♥♥♥ listen to King 810 and Scar Symmetry
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Perquisitore 2014년 12월 27일 오후 3시 27분 
Yeah, that's what I mean, supertrooper225.
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supertrooper225 2014년 12월 27일 오후 3시 29분 
coldred243님이 먼저 게시:
Not good for them. Theyre are many more bands in this world that deserve the recognition that that ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ass band recieves.

Oh get over it man. Everyone has their own tastes and metal fans tend to be far too aggressive on their stance on who is the better band. They are just a group of guys that found some success. Let them have it. People argue that same thing over Slipknot.
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Perquisitore 2014년 12월 27일 오후 3시 33분 
I couldn't agree more.
Why so aggressive about a band or a genre? I hope you aren't like these kind of guys that later are "they think metalheads are like THAT or THAT snif snif, they don't know us! they're so wrong about us!". It's like you don't know how the world works; they succeeded, well, good for them.
coldred243 2014년 12월 27일 오후 3시 33분 
I won't let them have it. They are plain. Brought nothing new to the table. Its ♥♥♥♥ Ive heard before. What makes a great band unique is what they bring in new. their popularity shouldve never left the garage they started in
Perquisitore 2014년 12월 27일 오후 3시 35분 
So Slipknot is something fresh and unique?
supertrooper225 2014년 12월 27일 오후 3시 37분 
coldred243님이 먼저 게시:
I won't let them have it. They are plain. Brought nothing new to the table. Its ♥♥♥♥ Ive heard before. What makes a great band unique is what they bring in new. their popularity shouldve never left the garage they started in

You say that but then say Korn wasn't even metal when they were the band that brought 7-string guitars into the spot light. They had an incredibly unique sound when they first hit. Then everybody aped it and people started hating Korn. It is weird. There are thousands of bands out there and people all have different tastes. You don't have to like it. But there is no reason to whine about it either.

And Slipknots sound was not even unique. They are a decent band and they have a very talented singer. But it isn't like they invented anything.
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coldred243 2014년 12월 27일 오후 3시 49분 
Yes. Slipknot was really to me the first band that let their inner guy out (thats why the wear the masks) and unleash the inner animal inside. They want to do nothing but absolutely tear the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ world apart when they perform. Something thats missing from alot of bands. They are known for their extremely chaotic shows, with some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hardcore ♥♥♥♥. They inspired many musicians today including members from Avenged Sevenfold from what I hear. They also seem to have something alot of something that alot of other bands seem to not have and thats good fills. Which is why they have two percussionists and a drummer (fyi the identity of their new one is Jay Weinberg). Add the Keyboards and the DJ scratching which adds a new element to their style. And its ♥♥♥♥ you can plain just jam to. To me Slipknot really redifined what Nu Metal is because it seems like more and more bands style their music off of Slipknot instead of Korn
coldred243 2014년 12월 27일 오후 3시 52분 
Plus Slipknot has aged better than Korn. Alot of old school fans hate their stuff today. And when they tour they basically just play hit songs which means that they are likely on their way out. Yes there is a five year difference between Slipknot and Korn but the old fanbase still likes the new music Slipknot puts out there.
coldred243 2014년 12월 27일 오후 3시 53분 
Plus korn's attempt at rapping is pathetic. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ knick knack paddy wack into a metal song? Really? Leave Rap Metal to Rage Against the Machine
Holding These Alligators Down 2014년 12월 27일 오후 3시 57분 
They are pretty p i s s poor and as a fan of death metal, hardcore punk and grindcore it makes me laugh when people refer to avenged sevenfold as "metal". The music sounds like 1980's hair metal and the vocals are so laughable it makes me cringe.
coldred243 2014년 12월 27일 오후 3시 58분 
Chow Yun Fat Shootin' Dudes님이 먼저 게시:
They are pretty p i s s poor and as a fan of death metal, hardcore punk and grindcore it makes me laugh when people refer to avenged sevenfold as "metal". The music sounds like 1980's hair metal and the vocals are so laughable it makes me cringe.
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supertrooper225 2014년 12월 27일 오후 3시 59분 
coldred243님이 먼저 게시:
Yes. Slipknot was really to me the first band that let their inner guy out (thats why the wear the masks) and unleash the inner animal inside. They want to do nothing but absolutely tear the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ world apart when they perform. Something thats missing from alot of bands. They are known for their extremely chaotic shows, with some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hardcore ♥♥♥♥. They inspired many musicians today including members from Avenged Sevenfold from what I hear. They also seem to have something alot of something that alot of other bands seem to not have and thats good fills. Which is why they have two percussionists and a drummer (fyi the identity of their new one is Jay Weinberg). Add the Keyboards and the DJ scratching which adds a new element to their style. And its ♥♥♥♥ you can plain just jam to. To me Slipknot really redifined what Nu Metal is because it seems like more and more bands style their music off of Slipknot instead of Korn

Those two bands are actually very different. I don't like the masks and the 'hardcore' crap they pull during the shows. That does not impress me. They were definitely not the first 'shock' band and Kiss and Alice Cooper did all that crap while Slipknot were kids. The shock stuff and the masks isn't even a part of the music. And that is what is important to me. They have like 8 or 9 members in the band and it is all overblown and obnoxious to me.

The most important part of a band is the music. Everything else are gimmicks. They are definitely a decent band but they are not the greatest out there. Far from it. If you like it.... that is great. Everyone has that band they find inspirational. As I get older I am starting to appreciate more bands. There is so much great music out there. And you don't need utter chaos to enjoy it.
Perquisitore 2014년 12월 27일 오후 4시 01분 
And who doesn't say that there aren't bands inspired by Avenged Sevenfold?
Does their live shows really matter whether they're chaotic or not? It isn't the first band labeled as that, really. Because if I remember well Jack Off Jill had something like that too, but as I say I don't remember well.
Well, and Haggard has I-don't-know-how-many-people in their group, so what...?
Keyboards and DJ with metal aren't anything new: Herrschaft, The Kovenant, Blood Stain Child...? Maybe they aren't the best example but I can't remember more right now. In fact if you look for some industrial metal...

Edit: And a lot of people hate Slipknot anyway, what's the point in this? And... it doesn't matter if you like them or not, they're metal. Lol.
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supertrooper225 2014년 12월 27일 오후 4시 01분 
Chow Yun Fat Shootin' Dudes님이 먼저 게시:
They are pretty p i s s poor and as a fan of death metal, hardcore punk and grindcore it makes me laugh when people refer to avenged sevenfold as "metal". The music sounds like 1980's hair metal and the vocals are so laughable it makes me cringe.

That is exactly why I don't listen to them. They focus too much on those solos and it makes it sound like hair metal. Which I hated. The guy went and blew his voice out extremely early in their careers which is why he sounds 'whiny' in my opinion. But like I said. I just don't listen to them. I am glad they found their niche but I will just listen to other stuff.
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Holding These Alligators Down 2014년 12월 27일 오후 4시 01분 
coldred243님이 먼저 게시:
Chow Yun Fat Shootin' Dudes님이 먼저 게시:
They are pretty p i s s poor and as a fan of death metal, hardcore punk and grindcore it makes me laugh when people refer to avenged sevenfold as "metal". The music sounds like 1980's hair metal and the vocals are so laughable it makes me cringe.
Someone who speaks my language
They're basically pop music with heavy guitars. I can't imagine anyone other than 13 year old girls liking them. Even those girls will discover better and harder stuff like Tool and Nine Inch Nails eventully.
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