Seriously

[des]

WTF is up with all these ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ anime dating games. Seriously if I wanted to play these creep ass games head on down to newgrounds where they are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ free. Or keep it in the Eastern marketplace because 9-10 times, Americans do not buy this ♥♥♥♥. The market for these games is tiny here. But then again the quality of games in the steam store has been decreasing rapidly, so I guess if you like paying 20 dollars for a game thats no better than one on kongregate or armor games, keep em on.

[zert]

引用自 Des：

Im not talking about the Anime story games or VNs I was refering to the dating sims. "WTF is up with all these ♥♥♥♥ing anime dating games"

How exactly are they worse than games about murdering? Again, don't like them - don't play them.

[Saint Pablo]

引用自 ᴢᴀʀᴛ：

引用自 Des：

Im not talking about the Anime story games or VNs I was refering to the dating sims. "WTF is up with all these ♥♥♥♥ing anime dating games"

How exactly are they worse than games about murdering? Again, don't like them - don't play them.

I'd rather take Dating Sims and VN's over Hatred anyday.Pointless violence doesn't equal fun in most cases.

[des]

引用自 ᴢᴀʀᴛ：

引用自 Des：

Im not talking about the Anime story games or VNs I was refering to the dating sims. "WTF is up with all these ♥♥♥♥ing anime dating games"

How exactly are they worse than games about murdering? Again, don't like them - don't play them.

I don't get rock solid for any form of violence or disturbing games. I prefer strategy games with RPG elements most, but if you were refering to why they are commonplace in america? Cause teenagers, and 'Murica. And I will let you know honest now, I don't play them but like herpes I'd prefer to pretend they do not exist.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

引用自 Des：

Obviously If you have used steam, they regionally display content, like any modern day business, otherwise we would be seeing squid in our mcdonalds advertisments, but we don't. Wonder why? Regional Displaying of goods. I assume that if you don't understand this you must not have graduated highschool or haven't got there yet cause even our ♥♥♥♥♥♥ school system teaches "Basic ♥♥♥♥♥ Econ 101"

Actually I've heard that Steam displays stuff that's region-locked out of your region, so this isn't necessarily true.

You're right in that Steam should ideally be displaying regional content, but aside from language settings, I don't think they do.

That said, there are a lot of North American anime fans.

引用自 Des：

They are just weird, and I don't understand why people play them other than lack of real human relationships. and WTF DID I JUST ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ WATCH?

What you just watched was an unrepresentative sample consisting of the worst thing someone could find.

Anyway:
Some people like the pretty art, when it is pretty.
Some people like the touching stories, when they are touching.
Some people find the character interactions interesting, when they are interesting.

There's no reason someone has to like this stuff only for wish-fulfillment and nothing else. Just because you don't understand how doesn't mean people don't. It's okay; people have different tastes.

And don't confuse the medium with the usage. There are a whole bunch of VN fans who don't like to see all these erotic VNs one bit. They're celebrating the release of a non-erotic VN recently; it's called fault milestone one.

引用自 Grox3000：

But yeah, I don't see the reasoning behind dating sims other than for use by lonely and socially awkward neckbeards.

What I posted above, regarding VNs.

Regarding dating sims (a related but not identical category), some people are amused by watching relationships develop.

Besides, one could ask the same question about romantic comedy movies.

The answer's pretty much the same, though. Some people like it. I don't like rom-coms, but clearly some people do.

引用自 Greed：

Yeah,it disgusts me aswell.The thing is,most VN's are made in Japan and then imported here.It would be a lie to say Japan isn't a perverted country.What we find weird they find normal.It's not like american games aren't filled with sexiness aswell.Most RPG's made in America have pretty lewd characters,but it's much more subtle.

Interesting point to bring up.

What I've noticed is that it doesn't seem that Japan is any more lewd than the US. If anything, Japan also concurrently has a reputation for being stupidly conservative in gender roles and sexuality. So both can't quite be true at the same time.

What I think is actually the case is that stuff like VNs and late-night/seinen/"adult" anime etc. form sort of an "underbelly" or counterculture of Japanese culture -- like, the stuff that you don't talk about in polite company. And Japanese culture seems more okay with using sexuality and perversion as humor -- which is why it shows up more often in stuff like this.

Correct me if I'm wrong, though.

[Saint Pablo]

Out of all the places in the world,Manhattan has ♥♥♥♥ tons of anime fans.There's such a saturation of it that you'd see thugs talking about Lucky Star.

[des]

引用自 QuintSakugarne：

引用自 Des：

Obviously If you have used steam, they regionally display content, like any modern day business, otherwise we would be seeing squid in our mcdonalds advertisments, but we don't. Wonder why? Regional Displaying of goods. I assume that if you don't understand this you must not have graduated highschool or haven't got there yet cause even our ♥♥♥♥♥♥ school system teaches "Basic ♥♥♥♥♥ Econ 101"

Actually I've heard that Steam displays stuff that's region-locked out of your region, so this isn't necessarily true.

You're right in that Steam should ideally be displaying regional content, but aside from language settings, I don't think they do.

That said, there are a lot of North American anime fans.

引用自 Des：

They are just weird, and I don't understand why people play them other than lack of real human relationships. and WTF DID I JUST ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ WATCH?

What you just watched was an unrepresentative sample consisting of the worst thing someone could find.

Anyway:
Some people like the pretty art, when it is pretty.
Some people like the touching stories, when they are touching.
Some people find the character interactions interesting, when they are interesting.

There's no reason someone has to like this stuff only for wish-fulfillment and nothing else. Just because you don't understand how doesn't mean people don't. It's okay; people have different tastes.

And don't confuse the medium with the usage. There are a whole bunch of VN fans who don't like to see all these erotic VNs one bit. They're celebrating the release of a non-erotic VN recently; it's called fault milestone one.

引用自 Grox3000：

But yeah, I don't see the reasoning behind dating sims other than for use by lonely and socially awkward neckbeards.

What I posted above, regarding VNs.

Regarding dating sims (a related but not identical category), some people are amused by watching relationships develop.

Besides, one could ask the same question about romantic comedy movies.

The answer's pretty much the same, though. Some people like it. I don't like rom-coms, but clearly some people do.

引用自 Greed：

Yeah,it disgusts me aswell.The thing is,most VN's are made in Japan and then imported here.It would be a lie to say Japan isn't a perverted country.What we find weird they find normal.It's not like american games aren't filled with sexiness aswell.Most RPG's made in America have pretty lewd characters,but it's much more subtle.

Interesting point to bring up.

What I've noticed is that it doesn't seem that Japan is any more lewd than the US. If anything, Japan also concurrently has a reputation for being stupidly conservative in gender roles and sexuality. So both can't quite be true at the same time.

What I think is actually the case is that stuff like VNs and late-night/seinen/"adult" anime etc. form sort of an "underbelly" or counterculture of Japanese culture -- like, the stuff that you don't talk about in polite company. And Japanese culture seems more okay with using sexuality and perversion as humor -- which is why it shows up more often in stuff like this.

Correct me if I'm wrong, though.

I respect and appreciate this reply. And kinda like how you don't talk about porn in a family dinner sorta thing.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

On the note of cultural differences, sexuality and sexual explicitness in videogames is (1) less likely to be an acceptable thing in the US, based on content rating boards and general social acceptabiity, and (2) kinda drowned out by machismo in videogames.

引用自 Grox3000：

VN means 'Virtual Novel'.

Close. "Visual novel."

引用自 ᴾᴾᴹ Da Scoot 8382：

Because the developers know that most gamers don't have any real girl-friends. So they make these games to simulate what it's like to have a GF. (At least that's what I think that's what it is.) If you don't like them, don't play them.

Play Dysfunctional Systems and call me in the morning.

引用自 Greed：

Out of all the places in the world,Manhattan has ♥♥♥♥ tons of anime fans.There's such a saturation of it that you'd see thugs talking about Lucky Star.

Manhattan has a lot of everything, solely because high population density.

引用自 Des：

I respect and appreciate this reply. And kinda like how you don't talk about porn in a family dinner sorta thing.

You're welcome. :)

[Naedmi]

So, I can't vote yes for dating sims? What about the ones that are too big for flash players?

[des]

TheDean please read all of the comments before you assume that I'm ignorant and have it out for people who play these games. Otherwise unsubscribe to it and please stop commenting.

[zert]

I think it's pretty safe to assume you're ignorant based on the original post...

"so I guess if you like paying 20 dollars for a game thats no better than one on kongregate or armor games, keep em on."
This alone tells you've never played any and that you're unaware of the amount of content they have.

[Naedmi]

引用自 Des：

TheDean please read all of the comments before you assume that I'm ignorant and have it out for people who play these games. Otherwise unsubscribe to it and please stop commenting.

I can't stick around and contribute to my opinions? Like you are doing right now.

[des]

引用自 ᴢᴀʀᴛ：

I think it's pretty safe to assume you're ignorant based on the original post...

"so I guess if you like paying 20 dollars for a game thats no better than one on kongregate or armor games, keep em on."
This alone tells you've never played any and that you're unaware of the amount of content they have.

That is why I said, read ALL of the comments because obviously others have replied with more than just insults and informed me on the difference between the VNs the Dating sims I was talking about... So now who is being ignorant?

引用自 TheDean：

引用自 Des：

TheDean please read all of the comments before you assume that I'm ignorant and have it out for people who play these games. Otherwise unsubscribe to it and please stop commenting.

I can't stick around and contribute to my opinions? Like you are doing right now.

Obviously your opinions have nothing to do with the discussion or the OP. So either A) Read the comments and realize I wasn't bashing anyone or B) Unsubscribe because you are not doing more than being bashful.

[Naedmi]

引用自 Des：

引用自 TheDean：

I can't stick around and contribute to my opinions? Like you are doing right now.

Obviously your opinions have nothing to do with the discussion or the OP. So either A) Read the comments and realize I wasn't bashing anyone or B) Unsubscribe because you are not doing more than being bashful.

Where in my comment was I bashing anyone? I was just asking how a dating sim too big for flash would be sold.

[des]

引用自 Nazi Sympathizer：

9-10 times out of a hundred are pretty good sale numbers

I meant 9 out of 10 times. Probably should have made it 9/10 oh well.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

引用自 Des：

引用自 ᴢᴀʀᴛ：

I think it's pretty safe to assume you're ignorant based on the original post...

"so I guess if you like paying 20 dollars for a game thats no better than one on kongregate or armor games, keep em on."
This alone tells you've never played any and that you're unaware of the amount of content they have.

That is why I said, read ALL of the comments because obviously others have replied with more than just insults and informed me on the difference between the VNs the Dating sims I was talking about... So now who is being ignorant?

I agree that people should at least try to read the rest of the thread -- especially if it's only about 50 short posts like this.

引用自 Des：

引用自 TheDean：

I can't stick around and contribute to my opinions? Like you are doing right now.

Obviously your opinions have nothing to do with the discussion or the OP. So either A) Read the comments and realize I wasn't bashing anyone or B) Unsubscribe because you are not doing more than being bashful.

I disagree; this is a public forum and you shouldn't be shooing people away.