jesus loves you all

[4_Haydawn]

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[HermitTheToad]

Crusader (Banned5x) の投稿を引用：

HermitTheToad13 の投稿を引用：

I Anit reading all that.

Hey look, another person who isn't interested in the Bible and doesn't like to read. Never seen that before- aren't you special. Hint: People don't really care what a random stranger does or doesn't read.

apathy の投稿を引用：

Yes, he does.

And even if you buy into the thinly-veiled lie of Peter 3:9 that he doesn't. It still happens anyway. He is either sovereign, or he is not. He is either god, or is not. He cannot be in absolute control of all things great and small, and yet not be in any control, at the same time. Those are contradictions. But given his track record as an evil eldritch monster in control of this reality, its safe to say he's lying, as Romans 9:22 points out he purposefully made some people just to kill them. And he doesn't like being challenged on his sadism.

I literally just quoted the passage that says God is unwilling that any should perish. But okay keep arguing it because you don't want to believe the Bible. He's a God of justice, and just like people are held in prison for life for committing crimes because of the justice system, souls will be held in prison forever for committing sins. It's a serious problem so there's a serious punishment, that's why Jesus offers us a way out.

apathy の投稿を引用：

Where does it say Hell was specifically created for Satan? Cause according to the Book of Job, he's chilling out with God in (the third) Heaven.

2 Peter 2:4
"For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;"

I didn't say Satan was stuck in Hell. Like you said in Job, he travels around in the earth, and can even appear before God in Heaven from time to time. Hell is ultimately the place all fallen angels will be kept, until they are thrown into the Lake of Fire will all who followed them there.

apathy の投稿を引用：

A true god has the power to forgive, no sacrifice is required.

Yet your demon called Yahweh, demands blood sacrifice. How weird and senseless to have an entity that underpins the very concepts and foundations of mathematics, quantum mechanics, and physics - only to have an insatiable desire to see a living organism in the physical three dimensional plane die horribly and pointlessly.

That's your idea of a god. Too bad your idea isn't the true God, isn't it.

apathy の投稿を引用：

So the angels he summons to throw you unwillingly in, that's another one of those lies in the holy scriptures, is it? Also why are you quoting C.S.Lewis? He was a heretic.

The decisions people make to reject God, like you, are what send them there. The method with which they are sent doesn't matter. I don't know anything about C.S. Lewis, other than hearing his name before. Try again.

apathy の投稿を引用：

You clearly have not.

Listening to what Christian windbag apologists spoon-feed you, is not the same as reading and understanding the scriptures.

Baseless accusation. I'll say it again with confidence: I've read the entire Holy Bible, multiple times, every letter of every word, cover to cover, on my own. You don't believe much, other than your own opinions, so it doesn't bother me if you don't believe me. The fact remains, my conscience is clear, and my knowledge of the scriptures is solid. I'm not a fake Christian like you're used to contending with and must assume I am.

apathy の投稿を引用：

That's not a misconception bozo, that's the Fate of the Learned problem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fate_of_the_unlearned

Its actually a serious paradox for your theology, because if Christ can preach to the 100 billion + people in the grave, there was no need for him to die on the cross to start with. He could've just preached that from the beginning. Same with his need to be born via a virgin woman. There's no point, even the angels beneath him can assume mortal flesh and blood forms, because they are f**king supernatural.

So you apparently missed the multiple parts in the Bible where God expresses that He loves justice and is a God of justice. There's no justice in condemning those who haven't committed the sin of rejecting Jesus because they never heard of Him. Jesus explained this Himself to the Pharisees:

John 9:40-41
"And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also?

Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth."

Everything else you're talking about is your own nonsense idea of what God "should be" according to the mighty you. It means nothing, and definitely isn't a paradox; it just shows your arrogance.

Proverbs 3:5
"Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.”

Isaiah 55:8-9
"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.

For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts."

I'm glad you linked Wikipedia though to justify your theology that determines the fate of your very soul. That was a good laugh.

apathy の投稿を引用：

Face it, he just does whatever the f**k he wants to, because he wants to, not because he has to. Good is evil and evil is good to him. He is a chaotic trickster spirit. If Satan is the father of lies, that makes him the grandfather of all lies.

'But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise' ~ 1 Corinthians 1:27

Right now, the only thing I'm facing is an angry, bitter furry who seems highly triggered and determined to rationalize their hatred for God. I've disproved all the mistakes you made in your thinking, but since you are hellbent on not believing I won't waste anymore time. It is against the scriptures to try to reprove the wicked.

You're not a challenge to me. I've been through this dozens of times with many others. If you want to go to hell and reject God, well that's your free will. What do I gain by stopping you? What does God gain by stopping you? You're not a prize. God favors only the faithful. Enjoy your decision.

Bruh its not that I don't want to read it Its that I already know all this
I believe in 3 things a bible focused church, Jesus died for my sins, and after church potlucks.
(I'm southern Baptist)

[Crusader (Banned13x)]

HermitTheToad13 の投稿を引用：

Bruh its not that I don't want to read it Its that I already know all this
I believe in 3 things a bible focused church, Jesus died for my sins, and after church potlucks.
(I'm southern Baptist)

That's good to hear.

But perhaps then you shouldn't have a dismissive attitude towards someone taking the time to post such information for those who don't yet know, and could be influenced by false claims of others regarding the faith.

[HermitTheToad]

Crusader (Banned5x) の投稿を引用：

HermitTheToad13 の投稿を引用：

Bruh its not that I don't want to read it Its that I already know all this
I believe in 3 things a bible focused church, Jesus died for my sins, and after church potlucks.
(I'm southern Baptist)

That's good to hear.

But perhaps then you shouldn't have a dismissive attitude towards someone taking the time to post such information for those who don't yet know, and could be influenced by false claims of others regarding the faith.

Fair. I don't actually know why I was so dismissive. I think I was in a weird mood yesterday and I apologize.

[Crusader (Banned13x)]

HermitTheToad13 の投稿を引用：

Crusader (Banned5x) の投稿を引用：

That's good to hear.

But perhaps then you shouldn't have a dismissive attitude towards someone taking the time to post such information for those who don't yet know, and could be influenced by false claims of others regarding the faith.

Fair. I don't actually know why I was so dismissive. I think I was in a weird mood yesterday and I apologize.

All good brother, I apologize also. I was just left to conclude that you were some atheistic scoffer I was used to dealing with. God bless.

[HermitTheToad]

Crusader (Banned5x) の投稿を引用：

HermitTheToad13 の投稿を引用：

Fair. I don't actually know why I was so dismissive. I think I was in a weird mood yesterday and I apologize.

All good brother, I apologize also. I was just left to conclude that you were some atheistic scoffer I was used to dealing with. God bless.

God bless will keep you in prayers

[Voroff]

Crusader (Banned5x) の投稿を引用：

(...)Baseless accusation. I'll say it again with confidence: I've read the entire Holy Bible, multiple times, every letter of every word, cover to cover, on my own.
(...)
So you apparently missed the multiple parts in the Bible where God expresses that He loves justice and is a God of justice. There's no justice in condemning those who haven't committed the sin of rejecting Jesus because they never heard of Him. (...)

Please remind me of the fate of Sodom and Gommorha; were the christian God preached there ? Because i will not praise of local god that denies itself to the vast majority of the population,was there a prophet in south africa, in india, amongst the nenets, amongs even the frenchs at the time ? I mean, between -300 and +300 years around Jesus born. No ? Then all of those civilisations are condemned to burn in hell, because they didnt follow "a good life". Each civilisations has its quirks. The Japanese, sure as heck, are all burning in hell, giving the history not matching with christian precepts or even the sheer knowledge of Jesus.

That isnt a God, that is just a local story-teller telling children tales on how to behave, "the witch" that will come for you at night if you dont stop being a jerk with your sister is just eternal flames - and the story got out of hands.


Hey, you've read the whole bible ? Wich version ? Greek, i hope so ? D'you know there are still Aramean speaker living in the world and that you can learn it including the pronunciation ? Because a copy of a copy of a copy, with heavy rewording and rephrasings throught each translation and further shedongs during times and interpretations, is NOT the original Word of God. Hope you are aware of that fact.

HermitTheToad13 の投稿を引用：

Bruh its not that I don't want to read it Its that I already know all this I believe in 3 things a bible focused church, Jesus died for my sins, and after church potlucks.(I'm southern Baptist)

D'you believe in Hell for the non-believers ?

[Walach]

Too bad someone else has to tell me that. Also, I don't believe there's any evidence for it. Mostly because it's just written in a book and anyone can write a book and say anything. And if going by said book, I wouldn't say there's a lot of love in the text.

[HermitTheToad]

Voroff の投稿を引用：

Crusader (Banned5x) の投稿を引用：

(...)Baseless accusation. I'll say it again with confidence: I've read the entire Holy Bible, multiple times, every letter of every word, cover to cover, on my own.
(...)
So you apparently missed the multiple parts in the Bible where God expresses that He loves justice and is a God of justice. There's no justice in condemning those who haven't committed the sin of rejecting Jesus because they never heard of Him. (...)

Please remind me of the fate of Sodom and Gommorha; were the christian God preached there ? Because i will not praise of local god that denies itself to the vast majority of the population,was there a prophet in south africa, in india, amongst the nenets, amongs even the frenchs at the time ? I mean, between -300 and +300 years around Jesus born. No ? Then all of those civilisations are condemned to burn in hell, because they didnt follow "a good life". Each civilisations has its quirks. The Japanese, sure as heck, are all burning in hell, giving the history not matching with christian precepts or even the sheer knowledge of Jesus.

That isnt a God, that is just a local story-teller telling children tales on how to behave, "the witch" that will come for you at night if you dont stop being a jerk with your sister is just eternal flames - and the story got out of hands.


Hey, you've read the whole bible ? Wich version ? Greek, i hope so ? D'you know there are still Aramean speaker living in the world and that you can learn it including the pronunciation ? Because a copy of a copy of a copy, with heavy rewording and rephrasings throught each translation and further shedongs during times and interpretations, is NOT the original Word of God. Hope you are aware of that fact.

HermitTheToad13 の投稿を引用：

Bruh its not that I don't want to read it Its that I already know all this I believe in 3 things a bible focused church, Jesus died for my sins, and after church potlucks.(I'm southern Baptist)

D'you believe in Hell for the non-believers ?

yes it is a fundamental teaching of the bible

[Voroff]

HermitTheToad13 の投稿を引用：

D'you believe in Hell for the non-believers ?

yes it is a fundamental teaching of the bible [/quote] Then i have something to show you.

https://youtu.be/r_5yUXjXizQ?t=899 from 15+ minutes of the video.

[BlackBloodGhost]

He doesn't love me, he literally appeared before me then punched me in the face and said "You are a disgrace to god! I hate you!"

[Hairy Hands Harry]

BlackBloodRum の投稿を引用：

He doesn't love me, he literally appeared before me then punched me in the face and said "You are a disgrace to god! I hate you!"

You too? I thought I just imagined that.

[HermitTheToad]

Voroff の投稿を引用：

HermitTheToad13 の投稿を引用：

D'you believe in Hell for the non-believers ?

yes it is a fundamental teaching of the bible

Then i have something to show you.

https://youtu.be/r_5yUXjXizQ?t=899 from 15+ minutes of the video. [/quote]
look your entitled to your beliefs as I'm entitled to mine. It doesn't mean I have to agree with you though so you go on your merry way and Ill go on mine

[Crusader (Banned13x)]

Voroff の投稿を引用：

Please remind me of the fate of Sodom and Gommorha; were the christian God preached there ? Because i will not praise of local god that denies itself to the vast majority of the population,was there a prophet in south africa, in india, amongst the nenets, amongs even the frenchs at the time ? I mean, between -300 and +300 years around Jesus born. No ? Then all of those civilisations are condemned to burn in hell, because they didnt follow "a good life". Each civilisations has its quirks. The Japanese, sure as heck, are all burning in hell, giving the history not matching with christian precepts or even the sheer knowledge of Jesus.

That isnt a God, that is just a local story-teller telling children tales on how to behave, "the witch" that will come for you at night if you dont stop being a jerk with your sister is just eternal flames - and the story got out of hands.

You don't have to worry about that. God makes Himself known to anyone who is a just person, and who truly does care to know Him. He can even appear in a dream or a vision to those who have no other means of accessing knowledge of God.

Deuteronomy 4:29
"But if from thence thou shalt seek the Lord thy God, thou shalt find him, if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul."

How do you think Abraham, the first of the faithful after the great flood, came to know God? It is recorded in the Bible that he rejected the false idols of his time and therefore God noticed him and made Himself known to Abram (who later became Abraham).

Abraham actually interceded for the people of Sodom and Gomorrah by praying to God, and God agreed that He would spare the cities if He could find even 10 righteous people there. But because there wasn't even that many, and it was instead full of extremely sinful people, the cities were condemned. God even sent two angels to investigate the cities firsthand, and the people of Sodom tried to rape them (Genesis 19).

Lot, Abraham's nephew, tried to warn some of the people of the city that he knew, but they simply laughed at him and took him for one trying to pull a prank. Even if he could've spoken to all of them, it was made clear they were unwilling to listen or believe.

Voroff の投稿を引用：

Hey, you've read the whole bible ? Wich version ? Greek, i hope so ? D'you know there are still Aramean speaker living in the world and that you can learn it including the pronunciation ? Because a copy of a copy of a copy, with heavy rewording and rephrasings throught each translation and further shedongs during times and interpretations, is NOT the original Word of God. Hope you are aware of that fact.

I don't worry about it too much because the Bible states that God would preserve His Word, and I believe He is more than powerful enough to be able to do so.

Psalm 12:6-7
"The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever."

The KJV is the only version I've found to be accurate to the original texts. It's the only one I use. There were older translations that are okay too, before the KJV was compiled, but as far as the most recent accurate version available, that's what I read. Other translations seem to often change the original meaning of passages, typically to fit "modern" sensibilities.

[HermitTheToad]

Crusader (Banned5x) の投稿を引用：

Voroff の投稿を引用：

Please remind me of the fate of Sodom and Gommorha; were the christian God preached there ? Because i will not praise of local god that denies itself to the vast majority of the population,was there a prophet in south africa, in india, amongst the nenets, amongs even the frenchs at the time ? I mean, between -300 and +300 years around Jesus born. No ? Then all of those civilisations are condemned to burn in hell, because they didnt follow "a good life". Each civilisations has its quirks. The Japanese, sure as heck, are all burning in hell, giving the history not matching with christian precepts or even the sheer knowledge of Jesus.

That isnt a God, that is just a local story-teller telling children tales on how to behave, "the witch" that will come for you at night if you dont stop being a jerk with your sister is just eternal flames - and the story got out of hands.

You don't have to worry about that. God makes Himself known to anyone who is a just person, and who truly does care to know Him. He can even appear in a dream or a vision to those who have no other means of accessing knowledge of God.

Deuteronomy 4:29
"But if from thence thou shalt seek the Lord thy God, thou shalt find him, if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul."

How do you think Abraham, the first of the faithful after the great flood, came to know God? It is recorded in the Bible that he rejected the false idols of his time and therefore God noticed him and made Himself known to Abram (who later became Abraham).

Abraham actually interceded for the people of Sodom and Gomorrah by praying to God, and God agreed that He would spare the cities if He could find even 10 righteous people there. But because there wasn't even that many, and it was instead full of extremely sinful people, the cities were condemned. God even sent two angels to investigate the cities firsthand, and the people of Sodom tried to rape them (Genesis 19).

Lot, Abraham's nephew, tried to warn some of the people of the city that he knew, but they simply laughed at him and took him for one trying to pull a prank. Even if he could've spoken to all of them, it was made clear they were unwilling to listen or believe.

Voroff の投稿を引用：

Hey, you've read the whole bible ? Wich version ? Greek, i hope so ? D'you know there are still Aramean speaker living in the world and that you can learn it including the pronunciation ? Because a copy of a copy of a copy, with heavy rewording and rephrasings throught each translation and further shedongs during times and interpretations, is NOT the original Word of God. Hope you are aware of that fact.

I don't worry about it too much because the Bible states that God would preserve His Word, and I believe He is more than powerful enough to be able to do so.

Psalm 12:6-7
"The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever."

The KJV is the only version I've found to be accurate to the original texts. It's the only one I use. There were older translations that are okay too, before the KJV was compiled, but as far as the most recent accurate version available, that's what I read. Other translations seem to often change the original meaning of passages, typically to fit "modern" sensibilities.

Personally I use ESV which was adapted from the KJV but I am familiar with both. I think keeping to one bible is a mistake and that you should be well versed in all variants of the bible.