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Sorry but non of what you have said is true.
Pretty much from 1930s until 1990s, early 2000s, the clean shave was THE way to go for men who want to appear clean and professional.
Yes ok, mustaches might have been more accepted here and there, but generally speaking it was the clean shave.
Its only now and before the 30s that " men " feel the need to wear a beard, the difference is, nowadays they do so because they are too lazy to shave and usually look like a hobo while in the 20s and before, men had beards looked classy.
I appreciate it, you are right.
Every man can grow a full beard, it just takes A LOT longer for some.
It's interesting, looks like everyone has their own reasons for common sense. At some point it has to be shaven tho, or it becomes annoying.
My problem is with the obsession and the regularity of shaving, which can even be identified as illness if a man feels like they should never have a single hair visible on their face, not even for a day.
Tough, I am 30+, really dislike all the anime nonsense and am clean shaven 90% of the week and my beard grows out like wild grass.
Its not an obsession. Just because you call it an obsession, does not make it an obsession.
Men shave daily because they want to get rid off their facial hair, not because they are obsessed with shaving itself.
If you call this an obsession, taking a daily shower or your daily vitamines also must be an obsession?
That being said, not sure about you, but even if I shave daily, I still have a visible shade after a few hours, so its never 100% clean anyway, its just being clean shaven for a professional environment which bearded people usually don't end up in, lol.
That's an issue tho, it's not a sign of being lazy nor a sign of stupidity, just because they say it. A man can be both smart and active, tidy and professional, and still have a beard. It has zero connection with the case.
So that's similar to saying: You're lazy and unprofessional if you have a manly feature: Beard, but if your face looks more like women, you're professional.
When did wisdom die.
No need to apologise for your opinion, but needless to say, I disagree with you. It's a generalisation, but it's generally true because that's how generalisations work.
1960s fashions. Mods from early to mid 1960s. Generally dressed smart and clean shaven.
1967ish onwards (something I didn't mention) we see beards and long hair emerging with hippies.
1970s the beards start fading, and the moustachioed era of Tom Selleck, Burt Reynolds, et al. turns up. Things get a bit more clean shaven later in the decade, but big bushy mustachios definitely survive into the disco years. More streamlined ones too actually.
1980s as the New Romantic scene began to fizzle, 'Designer Stubble' arrived and it was a huge buzzword. It was popularised by the likes of George Michael and other pop stars.
1990s we even see Goatee getting a special mention on the Wikipedia page.
2000s horribly bland time, fashion wise, whether with facial hair or clothes.
2010s Beards were absolutely a thing with millenials, and many still have them as they enter middle age.
According to numerous studies I read and my personal experience in life, clean shaven men are more succesful in business environments than bearded ones. Plus I rarely see beardy dudes in office and the few ones I do see, seem to generally neglect hygiene. But do whatever makes you feel good.
You are still wrong.
Yes, these fashions did develop as you described in these times, but it was far from being popular. Only in the 2010ish it started that every second or third dude decided to grow a beard. THIS was truly a popular phenomena.
I know this, because I studied this since a decade by now and am quite into the whole history of beard growth and shaving.
Also worth mentioning that it depends what countries we talk about. When I lived in the UK and now engage with people from there, beards are significantly more popular than here in Germany.
When I visited Ukraine not long ago, beards are next to non-existent and an absolute no-go in a business environment, you literally can lose your job there if you don't come to office clean shaven, similar here in Germany.
Now if you go to Japan or Korea, good luck finding anyone having a beard who also holds up a steady job of any kind.
Despite the society opinion, there are numerous studies and articles in psychological journals and historical journals, explaining WHY shaving is socially superior in OUR modern society.
An interesting study explained how women in rougher poorer environments feel more attracted to men with beards due to it expressing masculinity which in these regions meant safety.
The opposite was the case in less rough regions.
Reaching far back to Mongolia, men used to shave due to business meetings including women, that felt scared by bearded men as their facial expressions could not be read easily, which is important to build trust though.
And so on and on....
The clean shave will always be an advantage for men who are in business of some sort or work with customers and even in combat, having a beard is a disadvantage.
This is the initial reason why beards weren't popular in modern societies at all, it was never the majority who had one. Clean shave was usually the way to go.
In my observation, the 40s and 50s were some of the strictest time on beard fashion, you had to shave daily and even construction workers and other " rougher " jobs, were expected to be clean shaven, nowadays this is very different.
I personally am already fed up with beared men today because I 100% know that most of them are bearded because they are too lazy to shave not because they are so fashion minded, lol.
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I can't help but think, the only reason why bearded men can't hold a job, is because they get fired? or not hired in first place.
Those studies will show the clean shaven are successful, because bearded men are not getting a chance. And we need to understand why is it this way in first place.
OK, so I'll scratch my head here.
A "fashion" is literally a trend that is popular at a given time.
We don't need to rely on the subjective experiences of anyone in this thread (not even me, although I have tried to be objective) when we can look at market research.
A brief search of polling data (not meaningless forum and twitter polls) suggests women are split three ways on clean shavenness, on stubble and on beards with no clear preference.
My angle here is not what's considered clean or untidy, but the present trend for clean shaven faces being blamed on women and feminism. It's the first time I ever came across anyone suggesting such a thing, and although I don't mean to disrespect Chesmu, I don't agree at all and I've seen nothing to convince me for it yet.
Thats not true as they compare an even amount of participants in each sample group.
So lets say they compared 10 000 shaved men and 10 000 bearded men, both work in the business sector. The shaved dudes were more succesful.
This is how studies work.
I think that bearded guys are not less skilled, probably the same. But obviously appearance does matter to your customers if you want it or not and in the western world, a clean shaven men will always appear as more professional in MOST sectors of work (not in all).
You are not from a western country, so I understand that you are having a hard time to understand this. Thats ok.
No, a fashion is a trend that can be very popular amongst sub-cultures. This does not make it popular with most men.
Hippies in the 60s weren't most men, it was a small sub-group a sub-culture of men that by the way, did not particularly have a very positive reputation amongst more mature men as this was a lot more of a youth thing than one would expect.