What's Truly Worth Fighting For?

[WarHeRo]

What's the one thing you refuse to give up on?

The DiamondDust Rebellion -Shiro Sagisu
To every man there is a cause which he would gladly die for
Defend the right to have a place to which he can belong to
And every man will fight with his bare hands in desperation
And shed his blood to stem the flood, to barricade invasion

[livinggg]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Baron Twirly von Moustache:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von WarHeRo:

What's Truly Worth Fighting For?

Peace.

I will destroy everything that's gets in the way of me giving peace. None shall run or hide from my peaceful ways!

Astutely put. Nothing shall stand in the way of peace™.

[Triple G]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Sashie:

If you don't have freedom

Your master can take who you love away
Your master can put you in a box where no one will see you again, if they don't like your fame
Your master can take all the money you make and give you nothing
Your master can stop you going to police if you want justice

Freedom is not about other people being some master. You can also have no freedom if You´re a slave to Your own desires. And You can be free if You choose a master.

But most likely:

If You feel like having freedom - You most likely haven´t thought this through. The question is not to have freedom or not, but it´s about the amount of freedom, and choices. And it´s usually relative to the freedom of other people, as You can´t define when someone else has to feel free. That is a personal thing.

[WarHeRo]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Vendicator Senpai:

To one day touch oppai

lol

[peter purvis]

Football

[Professor]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Triple G:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Sashie:

If you don't have freedom

Your master can take who you love away
Your master can put you in a box where no one will see you again, if they don't like your fame
Your master can take all the money you make and give you nothing
Your master can stop you going to police if you want justice

Freedom is not about other people being some master. You can also have no freedom if You´re a slave to Your own desires. And You can be free if You choose a master.

But most likely:

If You feel like having freedom - You most likely haven´t thought this through. The question is not to have freedom or not, but it´s about the amount of freedom, and choices. And it´s usually relative to the freedom of other people, as You can´t define when someone else has to feel free. That is a personal thing.

Inspiring, thoughtful with balance, at least for me. A question of how or who determines the level of freedom. It's meaning, it's value, it's significance in any society. Masters or examples of leadership, does not always translate to meaningful societal sentiment that is overwhelmingly accepted by all.

On the other hand you are retrospectively describing the definitive nature of any interpretation of "freedom" it means different things to different people. Unfortunately the word is not universal or at least not yet experienced or discovered on the same level for all.

But I do know that is exactly what you are saying :) Freedom is only applicable when we have boundaries, guidelines, limitations, moral value of its meaning, seems to guide us on our never ending quest for the actual understanding of freedom.

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I'd say that's autonomy and freedom, so whenever the matrix comes and tries to draft me into their army forcefully, get me involved into their ♥♥♥♥ show, you betcha I'm ready to kill and fight to my last breath just like I did.

They lost real bad.

[ṼṏẌṏḭḊ]

I will never give up on seeing a pineappleless future.

[Triple G]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Professor:

But I do know that is exactly what you are saying :) Freedom is only applicable when we have boundaries, guidelines, limitations, moral value of its meaning, seems to guide us on our never ending quest for the actual understanding freedom.

Freedom is hard to grasp, as we all are inheritable free to do whatever we´re able to do.

It´s way easier to take the other approach - trying to explain why freedom should be restricted. That could be done more objectively. Like "We find it rather unpleasant to get our noses broken while walking through the streets, and therefore we restrict the freedom to hurt other people. Also because we value the right of physical integrity of anybody higher than the freedom to hurt other people - as that approach makes more sense to us, as it should be about reason, not about physical strength. etc.."

And then freedom goes hand in hand with equality. It probably feels more free if people have the same chances, opportunities, choices, and rights, than if some have more rights and advantages compared to others, as these others might perhaps feel less free.

[Triple G]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Breathe:

Love.

But that´s not worth fighting for. Either one spreads love, or one doesn´t. One can´t really fake it, or force someone to do it, as it would defeat the point.

But i also see it that way that the two questions in the OP are two separate things. One fights for things which one doesn´t have - and one doesn´t give up on things, which one has.

[76561198356019466]

equality

[sleeps]

presumably your and your community's survival

[OoOoOoooOOoOoorgle]

Nothing. Fighting over ♥♥♥♥ is why we can't stop repeating history in retarded ways.

[*RED*]

Women

[Goblin]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Breathe:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von WarHeRo:

What's the one thing you refuse to give up on?

Love.

Agreed

[Y1N9]

What's worth fighting for? Propaganda! Oh wait.